Folkways: Search & Destroy

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Why doesn't Folkways issue recordings of the rare Southern California Dean Gulberry? I bet they'd sell by the gross at club bang.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link

the classic maritime music thing they released a few months back is pretty damned great.

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"But, let's be honest, /anyone/ singing about strikes and union marches is kinda boring/irrelevant."

get one aunt molly jackson album.


my fave folkways album is probably the sci-fi sound effects one i have from the 50's. it's rad. i just sold my dockstader album to some dude from germany. but i taped it before i sent it.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

on singing on unions.

ok sure, perhaps the direct political sentiment is irrelevant, but the music, both a a document of something many of us didn't live through and as intrinsic performance/music, can be quite good if not entirely great.

is singing about not getting someone/thing out of yr head going to be any less or more relevant in so many years.

But, yeah sure...Pete Seger and other old lefty's still pushing the same old bag as a means to motivate the modern society can be trying...but "protest music" has always been better when you go with the spirit and overlook the often forced lyrics (xceptions abound, na klar)

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Indonesian Guitars = a revelation. Wow.

Hurting 2, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I might need to hear that.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Oo, I'll look that one up!

More recommendations (or warnings) would be cool as there's now like 35 million Folkways albums on eMusic.

I have two copies of the N. American Frogs one. When you do a comic book about a frog, people will give you frog stuff all the time.

Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Did anybody else mention Elizabeth Cotton's Freight Train and other North Carolina Folk Songs and Tunes? That's probably my favorite. (Howdy Jon)

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi Jeff! What a sooprize!

Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Elizabeth Cotten is definitely a favorite of mine too.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Jean Ritchie - British Traditional Ballads in the Southern Mountains = amazing

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Search search search: Saint's Paradise: Trombone Shout Bands of the United House of Prayer

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Along similar lines, the Doug and Jack Wallin unaccompanied songs album is really good.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Jordan, are you sure that's on Folkways? I can't find it on their site or on emusic.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Nevermind, found it.
http://www.folkways.si.edu/search/AlbumDetails.aspx?ID=2649

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dark Holler: Old Love Songs and Ballads

"...field recordings of Appalachian ballad singers collected by John Cohen in the Big Laurel region of Madison County, NC, in the early and mid-'60s"

This looks kind of amazing. Not only for the songs, but the documentary that comes with it, which was made at the time of the recordings. The focus of it seems to be a man called Dillard Chandler, who was illiterate poor, and lived in a beaten old shack.

more here:
http://www.mustrad.org.uk/reviews/d_holler.htm

Anyone heard/seen this?

gnarly sceptre, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i've always wondered about this one...

http://www.amazon.com/Street-Gangland-Rhythms-Improvisations-Trouble/dp/B000S5ACUU

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

What I've heard of it was pretty good, but I feel like the title and story gives it a mystique it may not otherwise deserve.

Hurting 2, Monday, 16 June 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

But folkways generally has a knack for coyly appealing titles.

Hurting 2, Monday, 16 June 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Richard Carlin

author of

Worlds of Sound:
The Story of Smithsonian Folkways

w/ musical guest, Mariachi Los Amigos

Saturday, November 1, 3 p.m.

Politics & Prose bookstore
5015 Connecticut Avenue, NW • Washington, DC
www.politics-prose.com

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Would go.

also lol wow I was a dick a few years ago in my obnoxious dismissal of protest singing.

ian, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Re: The Fugs - The Fugs First Album was originally released on Folkways as "The Village Fugs Sing Songs of Protest, Dissatisfaction, Annoyance and Fucking in the Streets" or sommat such. Totally classic beardo/wacko stuff recorded with the Holy Modal Rounders, way more "beat" and literary, kicks their rock & roll stuff out the door IMO. That and the abovementioned Virgin Fugs, which has more great stuff from that session but which didn't come out on Folkways. Apparently Harry Smith had them sign the contract as "The Fugs Jug Band" so Moe Asch would take 'em on as a folk group.

Search AND Destroy: Bob Dylan vs. A.J. Weberman, which is phone conversations between Dylan and the dude who dug through his garbage. Interspersed with the worst song ever written, performed by some other dude, as a segue piece. Dylan put the kybosh on the LP soon after it was issued and it's pretty much impossible to get.

staggerlee, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I missed Carlin's Folkways book talk in DC as I was out of town. Anybody go or see him elsewhere? How's the book I wonder?

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I got a great LP of early Klezmer last week. It's like 1910 to 1941 IIRC? Really awesome stuff.

ian, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.bolingo.org/audio/texts/fr127_128_3.JPG

It has these dudes on the cover.

ian, Monday, 3 November 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

those "music of new orleans" LPs put together by sam charters are amazing. really rough recording quality in some cases, but i like it. you get the ambiance of the dance halls, not just the music.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

that looks pretty awesome ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hi there

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

this and many other folkways albums are on spotify :)

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

also you don't have to feel guilty abt listening to folkways records on spotify because god knows the artists never got paid anyway :/

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

i wish there was a way to browse all of a labels releases on spotify

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah been googling but doesn't seem to be a definitive list

Folkways app like blue note would be so sweet

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

elizabeth cotton lps are sodamngood, only listen to elizabeth cotton

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

cottEN, EN, elizabeth cottEN, like that

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

so this got me searching around and i ended up making giant playlists of all the folkways records stuff i could find on spotify. you can search by label ("label:folkways"); it took 15 min of paging down to load all the tracks (31847 total!). seems to include most of the Folkways releases proper, along with many/most of the post-Smithsonian releases. there's a 10k song/playlist limit, so i split it into four, divided alphabetically by album title. voila:

1-E: http://open.spotify.com/user/majorgreg/playlist/6XoB1ygkX4B4w9OVjDrTty
F-L: http://open.spotify.com/user/majorgreg/playlist/0Swfc514BaMAxJ9nuzqPi1
M-R: http://open.spotify.com/user/majorgreg/playlist/5jYBvjNe5getECNps9XX7P
S-Z: http://open.spotify.com/user/majorgreg/playlist/5s7j6HU73NLVz0NKgZREKN

it's a little clunky to browse since many artists are split up among multiple playlists, but if you put them into a playlist folder, you can click on the name of the folder and it'll bring up the contents of all four at once and let you sort and filter them together. no replacement for a blue note style app but fun to browse around in...

cooking it up right with a side order of I want more (Aglet), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

i like the idea of spotify but whenever i run it on my 3-year-old macbook it slows everything down. a memory hog

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

thanks cooking it up right!

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

The Smithsonian sometimes sells vinyl and cassettes of Folkways stuff for reasonable prices at the annual Smithsonian Folklife fest near the Washington Monument at the end of June/beginning of July

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/from-woody-to-lead-belly-the-master-of-smithsonian-folkways/2015/04/17/0574a67a-e1f7-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html

Article about Folkways curator Jeff Place:

“I’ll tell you one thing,” says Ian MacKaye, the former Minor Threat and Fugazi frontman who has gotten to know Place. “There is no app that can replace that brain.”

curmudgeon, Saturday, 18 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

The Smithsonian owned label is tweeting a job posting for a marketing director in case anyone is interested

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Asch died in 1986 before the acquisition was finalized, but he left behind an important-yet-tricky stipulation: Each of the label’s original recordings had to be kept available in print forever. This posed significant logistical challenges, as most of the label’s recordings are not great sellers and are not carried in stores.

So the label created a system for making CDs available to the public strictly on the basis of demand.

“If people want one, we make one,” says Dan Sheehy, who succeeded Seeger as director and curator from 2000 to 2015. “We finally got to a place where someone in Boise can, at 3 a.m., order a custom CD. We’ll come in in the morning and the CD will already be made with the disc art on there, and another machine will have the sleeve. We just wrap them up and send them out.”

... A recent Big Bill Broonzy release sold more than 18,000 copies, making it the biggest selling release in Smithsonian Folkways history.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/music/blog/20862742/smithsonian-folkways-turns-30

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 May 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

yeah, i've ordered a couple things from them, pretty cool, though I like finding the originals in record stores. such great packaging overall.
here's one that was recommended to me recently -- totally great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d9tpyKszw8

tylerw, Thursday, 25 May 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

also bought a Mike Seeger LP -- Tipple Loam & Rail -- recently and was happily surprised to find Mike's signature (and phone number!) written on the back. Guess it's too late to call him up, but hey ...

tylerw, Thursday, 25 May 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/music/blog/20862743/folks-on-folkways

Folkways staff pick their faves

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Experimental musician and professor Aaron Dilloway (formerly of Wolf Eyes) picked his favorites from the weirdest parts of the Folkways catalog, and it is really phenomenal.

Playlist here: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMKUNfG8UYdeJsZLnfcu0ZKrKgwlk1Utn

also on Spotify and Apple Music.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 August 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

They've got lots of stuff on bandcamp, incl. some fairly recent recordings:
https://smithsonianfolkways.bandcamp.com/music

dow, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.songlines.co.uk/news/smithsonian-folkways-label-director-sacked

the sacking of its director and curator last month. Huib Schippers took on the role in 2016 but, after four years, his contract has not been renewed. “People hire me because I care, I am passionate about stuff and will challenge existing structures if they don’t work anymore,” Schippers says from Washington DC by Skype. Curiously, Smithsonian has made no public statement about Schippers departure. “I’ve been disappeared,” he says, “while ironically Billboard just named me as one of 75 Power Players in the [music] industry.”

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

https://www.songlines.co.uk/news/smithsonian-folkways-label-director-sacked

the sacking of its director and curator last month. Huib Schippers took on the role in 2016 but, after four years, his contract has not been renewed. “People hire me because I care, I am passionate about stuff and will challenge existing structures if they don’t work anymore,” Schippers says from Washington DC by Skype. Curiously, Smithsonian has made no public statement about Schippers departure. “I’ve been disappeared,” he says, “while ironically Billboard just named me as one of 75 Power Players in the [music] industry.”

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

xp thanks for the dilloway playlist, table

Anthony Seeger, a former director, curator and chair of the advisory board says: “This is a very unhappy story because Folkways was in the process of being transformed in a number of important ways – with new artists and in terms of moving from sales of physical product to creative ways of making music available in other ways and in terms of reaching out. Huib did all of those things.”

this must include the "Smithsonian Folkways Vinyl Reissue Series" which was recently brought to my attention via this release:

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1606979887_10.jpg

https://smithsonianfolkways.bandcamp.com/album/tuareg-music-of-the-southern-sahara

(i had seen various folkways "reissues" banging around in the record store bins for a few years, but for various reasons assumed that they were bootlegs. it's cool that they're actually doing this !)

budo jeru, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This one is great, and excellently titled

https://i.etsystatic.com/12031125/r/il/733aaa/2342956035/il_794xN.2342956035_kb4d.jpg

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

Wall-to-wall 1-2 minute absolute fiddle smokeshows, vast majority of which by bands that don't seem to have any body of recorded work. It's like a hardcore compilation except fiddle music.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Hello, look at this!

https://folkways.si.edu/friends-of-folkways

All you need to do to become a Friend of Folkways is to give a continuing monthly donation to the label, a portion of which will be paid out directly to artists as royalties. The minimum contribution is $5 per month, but you can choose to give more (for example, $5, $20, $50, $100, or any other amount you prefer). As a thank you, subscribers will be given unlimited access to stream all of the available titles in the Smithsonian Folkways catalog straight from our website (with the US only at this time), including all its subsidiary labels such as Arhoolie, Folk-Legacy, Paredon, and more. The ability to discover not only a new favorite song, but entire worlds of music and sound that you may have never encountered before, is right at your fingertips. From bluegrass to gamelan to jigs to poetry, the catalog offers countless avenues of exploration. The full amount of your contribution is tax-deductible.

How perfect to be able to do this with this release on the horizon:

https://matmos.bandcamp.com/album/return-to-archive

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2023 20:53 (seven months ago) link

ooh streaming, but tax-deductible!

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 13 October 2023 21:53 (seven months ago) link


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