Why is LFO's "Frequencies" still...

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Why is it after all this time I still think this is the best "Techno" record ever? I just can not find fault in anything about it. I have listened to electronic based music for years here as well so I am not some naive kid... DM/Kraftwerk/Soft Cell/HL/etc... to Juan Atkins/Derrick May/Armando etc... to Hawtin/Beltram/Tresor/R&S etc... now onto (too many to list) I just think that after 14 years of listening to this record and still thinking it is a masterpiece deserves some mention. It was hard for me to say this as I love sooooo much from this time period... but this one still throws one up me. Anyone else share my enthusiasm?

benoit, Friday, 6 May 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i do! i was listening to it last week and really wondered why i bother with most other techno albums. it is flawless.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I bought this on tape when I was 14 and subsequently lost it :( along with my interest in techno/house/electronica for several years, but that was due to being a corny indie fux0r.

It was great though. I still have the single "LFO". Loved the opening track, was it "What is house"?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I really rate 'Advance' still too, perhaps it has a broader depth than it's predecessor.

$V£N! (blueski), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

el ef ohhh... that shit doesn't quit. i am glad other people share my enthusiasm for this record! timeless and almost matchless, it was something so special. i mean, how many records came with warnings at that point for blowing out low end of speakers??? :)

benoit, Friday, 6 May 2005 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

6

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

rentboy, is six your rating of it?? sad.

benoit, Friday, 6 May 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

renegade soundwave had a handwritten letter printed on the inner sleeve of one of their cds which declared that a RSW track had blown up a soundsystem - and the 'victims' were seriously miffed off about it.

always made me chuckle that ..


but to get back to topic .. i still spin this album on a regular basis .. and agree that this is indeed special.

mark e (mark e), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Renegade Soundwave, shit I haven't thought of them in ages. Blowing things up eh??? The most extreme case of that I have ever heard was of sound torturer Zbigniew Karkowski causing the cracking and bursting of a toilet at some venue he was playing due to crossed frequencies getting a bit out of control. now there is some serious sound science going on... that man is dangerous. :)

oh, and glad that you think lfo is special too... what else would classify like this??? Beltram's "Energy Flash", 3 Phase's "Der Klang und...", Speedy J "Pullover"... oh here is a blast from the past GTO's "Bullfrog"...

benoit, Friday, 6 May 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

no, i was being silly and answering your question about the number of albms with the warning...

but yeah it's a seriously great album
still have my "LFO" and "Love Is The Message/Tan-ta-ra" vinyl copies that have worn many a stylus down

But I'm with stevem in that I think Advances might posibly better Frequencies (at least that's what I think he said above). In any event, two of the best albums to ever come out of "techno" true and proper

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

6, where the H have I been..? what else besides RSW?? I think i specifically remember LFO because of the fact that clubs were refusing to play their records out of fear. which was a total laugh. Advance, wow, yeah, I really like that one too but most people cringe on that one. I am glad other see it for the greatness that it contained. "Freak" though, was still a bad ass return to form by Mark.

benoit, Friday, 6 May 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

One of my all-time favorites. Completely sublime and still offering rewards each time I listen to it.

chris breitenbach (Chris808), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Deep Space by Juan Atkins is the greatest techno album ever.

Frequencies is hamfisted and inarticulate compared to the first SAW record, or the second Autechre album, much less Juan at his peak.

Deep Space is the most criminally under-rated and unappreciated electronic music album of the 90's.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/rsw/rsw.htm

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Frequencies is a great record, but I think any personal cornerstone record that is electronic dance in nature is going to be the "best Techno album ever." for one. For me, that's either Meat Beat Manifesto's Storm The Studio or Renegeade Soundwave's Soundclash. (They came out at the same time, so it's hard for me to pick.) For someone else it will be Autechre's Amber, let's say. For another, it will be anything from Wendy Carlos to Chemical Brothers. Who can say what really is the best Techno album ever?

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd rate Frequencies a bit below Newbuild per my tastes. Strings of Life is still my techno cornerstone. But I'm from Michigan, so...

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

as far as actual albums that you listen to, even though it's near the beginning of IDM and not something great for dance party time, I think Black Dog Production's Bytes is the best techno album of all time. It's diversity, it's consistency, it's flow, everything. The record that really got me at the time was 808 State's Utd. State 90 and Ex:El in their tommy boy versions. Soundclash is too weird to just be called a "techno" album!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Deep Space is the most criminally under-rated and unappreciated electronic music album of the 90's

True.

Omar (Omar), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks to Video Vibrations on BET, I learned of 808 State circa UTD 90. Could you imagine getting that package in from Tommy Boy as the program director and thinking, "yeah, my audience will get this."

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I LOST MY COPY OF 'DEEP SPACE' FIVE YEARS AGO :(

there was a 'best techno album ever' thread already and I remember picking Carl Craig's 'Landcruising' as one of them.

$V£N! (blueski), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Soundclash is too weird to just be called a "techno" album!

Oh, i agree, certainly. But it was the gateway to me exploring electronic music, and nothing else had quite been able to replicate the experience i got when I first heard Soundclash... I guess I just lament the fact that many electronic acts aren't as, well, filthy, and have an appropriate frontman for it. Then again, Gary Ascquith was the singer in the band Rema Rema, who -- for lack of better comparisons -- were closer to Swans or the Pop Group than anything electronic at the time.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

when I was a freshman in college I bonded w/ Todd Hutlock, who was a senior, he gave me my first radio show etc. We bonded over a love of RSW. He later worked at AP and now Stylus. If you haven't, check out this review of their live show:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=552

also, go to http://www.beatsinspace.net/ and click on the playlists tab and check out a Crazy Rhythms radio show we did where I slipped in Space Gladiator Dub somewhere near the end.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I can see how LFO - "LFO" can be seen as some kind of techno track par excellence. I love it obviously, but it could also be in the dictionary next to the word "techno". The album was good, but nothing compares to that track.

I love RSW so much.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i love frequencies, but i don't play it very often. it is awesome road trip music. (drive really fast, play it really loud, chair dance). it's one of those classic "feedback" records where the influences are distributed across it (fed back into it) in a very balanced/not forced way. (not hamfisted and inarticulate!! that said i think one of the reasons i like it is because it sounds young and naive)

utd state 90 is one my all-time faves, but it's one that i don't think i could listen to today because i played it into the ground. i should dig it out and listen anyway.

i agree with the deep space commentary...the artwork is badass designers republic material as well.

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, that live RSW review is amazing. I would have killed to see this.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone remember their appearance on 120 Minutes?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

ARGG! They were on 120 minutes? As hosts??

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

No, a performance.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

They were at a club and Dave was hosting. Maybe The Limelight?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

NO WAY!

I do own the RSW In Video video...as well as a promtional poster for Soundclash that I got mounted ages ago but never hung up. Should do that soon.

Sometimes I think RSW is the greatest band of all time, for real. I love most of their stuff, and especially a few of those singles/dub mixes that don't show up on the CDs. Stuff like Space Gladiator Dub and Probably a Robbery (12 gauge turbo). The mixes of Women Respond to Bass, Manphibian and Mash-Up. This is some of their best stuff and most people who only own the CDs have never heard it.

Not knowing much about house music OR hip-hop at the time I never really had a context for RSW. Now I know. Fast golden age of rap + Pal Joey and Todd Terry + Dub = RSW

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I add to the RSW love? Thanks, g'day. I still believe that they were the not-so-secret precursors to the Chemical Brothers, by way of, say, the Specials (Terry Hall version).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I've decided my next task is to digitize all that stuff and compile it:

Probably A Robbery (12 Gauge Turbo)

Space Gladiator (Dub) if you haven't heard this, it's not Space Gladiator (Satelite of Dub) which is a more related remix of Space Gladiator, but a totally different club cut, completely slamming.

The Phantom (Turntable Scratch Mix)

Women Respond to Bass (12" Vocal Mix)
Women Respond to Bass (Women Respond to Terror Drums)
Women Respond to Bass (Women Respond to Heaven)

I don't think any of those have been on CD. There was a Women Respond CD single but I've never seen it.

The Thunder II CD single is essential for Thunder II, Manphibian, Mash-Up and 2 later versions of Biting My Nails, (Bass Numb Chapter) and (Sound System Plays a Renegade Tune) There's also a Biting My Nails version 90 or something, I have to check.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm sure there's a RSW thread somewhere.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

(Dan, before I leave the RSW hijack here, I have some pretty odd RSW vinyl items, in addition to the ones you listed.. contact me elsewhere.)

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Danny, I have some of that RSW stuff on CD singles that were reissued by Mute a few years back. Don't know for sure what tracks, but I DO know that the "Probably..." 12 Gauge Turbo is and I definitely have the "Women Respond To Bass" CD single, so I can attest that it exists!

Thanks for linking (and elsewhere for the kind words) about my write up of that RSW live show on Stylus. Seriously, that night changed my fucking life. I honestly don't think I've ever walked out of a show with my mouth as wide open and my mind as blown EVER. That write up still doesn't even do it justice...

Hutlock (Hutlock), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Deep Space by Juan Atkins is the greatest techno album ever.
Frequencies is hamfisted and inarticulate compared to the first SAW record, or the second Autechre album, much less Juan at his peak.

Deep Space is the most criminally under-rated and unappreciated electronic music album of the 90's.

-- Disco Nihilist

The Nihilist speaks the truth.

moley, Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Frequencies = still dope beyond all reason

Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:37 (fourteen years ago) link

truth

jed_, Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link

wicked album. will put it on tonight. i wish they'd used the 12" version of LFO however. it's excruciating when it fades out so early on the album.

and no way is 'Deep Space' the best techno album, sorry.

sam500, Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Frequencies and Advance are 2 of my all-time fave albums.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 October 2009 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link

LFO Frequencies > REO Speedwagon

henry s, Thursday, 15 October 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Now you're just talking crazy!

EDB, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm a leave this thread alone i think...

dog latin, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the samples didn't really interest me too much, but anyone have anything to say about the Luke Vibert and Autechre covers of LFO and the intro to Frequencies?

EDB, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

not heard

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I really like this peel session from 1990 a lot. Kinda pastoral, reminds me of the black dog.

brimstead, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

i just got it for the 3rd time on cd and it is great otherwise i only care for a few songs from the future releases.

xzanfar, Sunday, 23 June 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

I really like this peel session from 1990 a lot. Kinda pastoral, reminds me of the black dog.

― brimstead, Friday, April 19, 2013 7:47 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeeeaaah this just got released on vinyl. Much better sound quality than the mp3s i had. TIP!

brimstead, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

yes it’s tasty, just picked mine up today

also preordered the reissue of leeds warehouse mix on flash forward

djdirtbagstyle, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Bit random but would anyone in the UK like the LFO stencil kit?

(Having a tidy and can't quite bring myself to throw it out).

djh, Saturday, 18 December 2021 11:51 (two years ago) link

the solo mark bell and gez varley stuff is good too as i have everything available of theirs on cd!

xzanfar, Saturday, 18 December 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

just listening to Rob's Nightmare Peel Session. urgh so goooooood

Ste, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link


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