How was Here Come The Warm Jets received upon it's release?

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it's not as 'pleasant' a listen as "another green world", but i think it has a similarly playful approach to arrangements and guitar tones

brimstead, Saturday, 26 April 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link

jamming this now on a Saturday morning

bass solo in Needles rules

substitute that rhymes with dissolute = prostitute?

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link

hmm maybe that is a synth solo in Paw Paw, not gtr

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

love the cymbal-ticking light touch drums on Baby's On Fire

Fripp guitar solo is one of his most undeniable

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

For years I assumed that was Manzanera doing that solo. Someone here set me straight.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link

I was pretty baffled by this record when I first heard it about 20 years ago; all I knew of Eno was his brilliant Roxy work and my unfair view of "that hissing shit on those Bowie records" (a view I have since revised considerably). I did not expect the melodic power-pop herein. Love it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link

I also love the move of putting a 2 1/2 minute freakout gtr solo into the middle of a 3 minute song

lovely treated gtr solo by Manzanera on Cindy Tells Me, I've always liked the backing vocals too

Driving Me Backwards is the only song here I will not vehemently defend, kind of a monochromatic downer

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link

Tarfumes otm

Choogle Plus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

aside from On Some Faraway Beach being incredibly goddamn beautiful, I love the way everything else in the mix slowly overtakes the piano line as the song progresses

side 2 of this is maybe my favorite side of the 4 vocal records

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link

onslaught of Blank Frank, the density of the bass really helps, the wall of gtr scree freakout (Manzanera?) one minute in is really something

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link

speaking of lyrics there are some particularly good ones in Blank Frank

"the only time he speaks is in incomprehensible proverbs"

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link

Driving Me Backwards is the only song here I will not vehemently defend, kind of a monochromatic downer

― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:24 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dig the warbly piano, but yeah, if Warm Jets has a failing, it's this song. If it has a failing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah the piano is my favorite part as well

oh perfect masters

they thrive on disasters

they all look so harmless

TILL THEY FIND THEIR WAY UP HERE

all the weird little backing vocal details in Dead Finks, love it

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link

aside from all the gorgeous melody in Some Of Them Are Old, it has that sweet little slide solo

so many moments like that hidden in this record

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

I just realized that I've probably passed the 30-year mark on listening to this record (less than others posters itt)

still holds up

remember me, remember me...

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

can someone who owns the lyric book tell me what the actual words to the title track are?

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

nothing to saaaay, nothing to saaaaay

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

that's all I know

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link

Driving Me Backwards is a fav for me

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

I signed out Enobox 2 from the library when I was 12 and for whatever reason (track title curiosity?) started with Taking Tiger Mountain instead of with Warm Jets, "Burning Airlines" cemented itself as the best song I'd ever heard and would ever hear. Returning to Warm Jets afterwards, I was somewhat disappointed with the comparative un-adventurousness of the instrumentation, more of a standard rock record than the endless funhouse of Tiger Mountain. Didn't warm to it until adulthood. Realize now that Tiger Mountain while awesome is jokey and ridiculous and obv sounded better to the ears of an adolescent, "Judy's Jungle" is basically a kid's tune

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

here come the warm jets is basically my dream of a ziggy stardust album - an alien using all of pop/rock's little musical and recording tricks and hooks to try and seduce listeners but from a slightly askew perspective. by comparison same-era bowie feels earthbound and stagebound, decent but more pretentious than actually surreal. I love it more with every passing year, but if it doesn't amuse a listener in the slightest after two spins i have no interest in trying to convince them of its charms. they obv don't like this kind of voice or this kind of sound and that's fine but ffs it's a canonical, 40 year old classic album, if you need convincing of its worth fucking consult your local library. google a review, jesus.

xpost tiger mountain has individual tracks that blow me away, but Warm Jets is more consistently rockin to my ears

da croupier, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Do not get dislike for 'Driving Me Backwards'. Its wooziness is integral.

emil.y, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

It's the best track on the album imo

imago, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

i mean if it's a "everyone is so reverent to this thing, but i don't get what the big deal is, i wasn't sent to mars, it was just goofy '70 UK Phil-Collins-in-the-liner-notes shit, and I don't even like Roxy Music anyway" well yeah it's a Roxy Music spin-off and you're an adult, music's not gonna make you shit your pants like you're 14 once you've got a general sense of what's out there. But just as Dylan made more sense to me once I stopped resenting that every sentence wasn't the promised-by-boomers pearl and sometimes this guy's just telling jokes and making it rhyme, it shouldn't be too hard to step back and realize "john cale with the muppets" could actually be an AWESOME thing.

da croupier, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah but all the grand claims people make for eno in the 70s are actually true

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

especially that muppets thing

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

availing myself of the opportunity to say da croupier otm

Choogle Plus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

i was always disappointed that ziggy bowie wasn't more of a blast-you-into-space kind of thing, just a dude with an acoustic guitar poncing around

once a grown-up colleague of mine heard me playing 'warm jets' and he seriously had to inquire how someone could like 'serious music' and also this sophomoric junk (not his words), like there was a complete disconnect

j., Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link

"john cale with the muppets" could actually be an AWESOME thing.

could? yeah i guess VU were pretty good
geez who would disagree with john cale and the muppets?!

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

da croup otm
although I need a little convincing that Another Green World is as classic as the other 70s vocal records, to me it's just a collection of almost-but-not-quite-as-good-as-Cluster instrumentals and the annoying "Tie Your Shoe" song

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

y'all I don't dislike Driving, but it is my least favorite here

da croupier otm, ha xp

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

the annoying "Tie Your Shoe" song

*glare*

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

key to AGW is St Elmo's Fire/Big Ship imo

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

That shoe song is the should-be-erased musical-linguistic link between Eno's songwriting style and Rice/Webber imo, never was a fan

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Love I'll come running, also whatever the version on the peel sessions is called

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

da croupier OTM

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

Another green Eno-nostalgia post: the second-longest relationship I've ever been in was with a girl I met at an Eno tribute night. She wore a black dress and had a goth band and smoked and sang through perfect versions of "Needles" and "Cindy". I was smitten and asked her out and we were together two years.

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link

awesome

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's tender

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

so who/what is 'Sweetfeed'—backing vocals:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/288423-Sweetfeed ?

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I saw Jon Brion back in 2007 or so, and as part of the set he did a spontaneous three-song "Jets" tribute the consisted of "Dead Finks Don’t Talk," "Some of them Are Old" and the title track. I'll try to find some audio. And then he segued to "Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet," which of course is also connected to Eno.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 April 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

How was Here Come The Warm Jets received upon it's release?

They would say "Here comes 'Here comes the warm jets' "

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

bass solo in Needles rules

Bass solo?!?! Where? Have I lost my mind here or what?

For years I assumed that was Manzanera doing that solo. Someone here set me straight.

Fripp

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

OK maybe it is a gtr solo mostly played very low? the part right after he sings the title of the song, there is a cool solo, I am not a musician.

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link

Ah, it's a gtr

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

I was somewhat disappointed with the comparative un-adventurousness of the instrumentation, more of a standard rock record than the endless funhouse of Tiger Mountain.

I don't think the two albums are all that different really, my one tiny tiny minsicule insignificant complaint about "Tiger Mountain" would be that some of the songs are a bit longer than they need be

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link

nahhh

TTM is for me an entire step up, whether in terms of songwriting or sonic ingenuity

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

P. surprised Hurting 2 doesn't like the "Baby's on Fire" solo!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

I listened to Baby's On Fire like 6x because of this thread and that guitar solo remains one of the most sizzling ever. How else to describe? Honestly I have no idea.

some of the songs are a bit longer than they need be
agree!! i love true wheel and mother whale eyeless but they could both stand to be at least a minute shorter imo

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

"sizzling" is right. fripp really knew how to make the most of a guest spot back then. tho manzanera does the solo justince in the 801 live version...

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link


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