RFI: XTC as a live act

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I've done a little googling, a little AMG, but I can't find much info on why XTC stopped touring. Yes, I know about the Partridge stagefright thing, but was wondering if anyone had any more info than that. Also, did anyone here actually see them live back in the day? Were they a good live act?

The reason I'm asking is twofold: a) Drums and Wires has been in *heavy* rotation on my stereo--it is indescribably great and I keep thinking about how these songs would sound live, and b) I have the first DVD release of The Old Grey Whistle Test, which includes them doing "Statue of Liberty" I guess circa '78 or so. It's one of the best performances (if not the best) on the whole disc.

And shit--would it be too much to hope for a reunion tour?

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember the OGWT played "Radios in Motion" by accident instead of "Statue of Liberty" first time out. Guess that's not on any DVD.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them 2 or 3 times. They were pretty fantastic - Andy P leaping around doing the the early herky-jerky songs was good entertainment. I never saw them with Barry Andrews which is a shame - he was nuts. My favourite XTC album would be GO2.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them at Reading Top Rank in '78 and again at Reading Hexagon in '79.

Very different on each occasion - a lot "punkier" and more manic the first time (especially keyboard player Barry Andrews, who was evidently hell-bent on beating the hell out of the remnants of a piano that had quite clearly had the hell beaten out of it extremely thoroughly already); far more controlled and understated the second time (when Barry had been replaced by guitarist Dave Gregory).

I thought they were much better the first time - but then I would have done, wouldn't I?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

My favourite XTC album is probably either Black Sea or English Settlement.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

There's some great live footage of them on Urgh! A Music War, doing Respectable Street, and one other maybe?

Anyway, that's a great movie and I think it was being reissued soon...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I recommend the 4-CD Transistor Blast set, which has two concert recordings and two discs of terrific BBC sessions. The studio stuff is wonderful but the concerts (an early one, and then one of the last ones, right after Black Sea) are insane and I'm sure they're exactly what you want.

You can also find a couple of live tracks on Coat of Many Cupboards, including a nice live take on "Yacht Dance."

The "Partridge had stagefright" story is pretty substantiated, but it also seemed like they just weren't interested in touring for year after year. I recently interviewed Partridge and he mentioned that he wanted to settle down so he could start a family.

save the robot (save the robot), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

XTC was pretty brilliant. I'd love to see them re-unite.

PB, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

According to the books, Partridge developed from nowhere, a psychosomatic reaction to being on stage, resulting in painful and deblilitating stomach pains and anxiety.

I'm unaware if it's ever properly been discussed whether it ran parallel with the general pressures of becoming an established band and keeping up etc: and manifested itself as these irrational pains.

Partridge's rationale since has been that he'd never put himself through that again so it must have really shaken him.
Saying that, he did undertake in a short promotional unplugged tour of America in '89 with the other two and played a few times in front of an audience then.

I reckon that the chances of a live reunion are very slim given that David Gregory is no longer in the band. Still, I'd give my eye teeth to see them in any form.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Had the good fortune to see XTC 5 times back in the day. The first time as opening act for T. Heads at the Beacon Theatre (w/ Barry Andrews). A revelation as I had only read about XTC in the English press, but what I heard that night (Go2-era material) justified all the praise.

Then caught them 3 times in 4 nights early in 1980 supporting "Drums and Wires." They were brilliant (thus my following them about for 4 days) and a standout of that live set for me was "Battery Brides." The 3rd show in that series had the band scheduled to open for the Police in Hartford, Connecticut. The Police cancelled for some reason, but that was fine with me -- a longer set for XTC!

Last time was in '81 in support of "Black Sea"(?). The show was at the old Ritz (now Webster Hall) and we were just standing about in the balcony area waiting for the show when the band walked right by. I reached out and patted Andy on the shoulder and he turned and gave me an glare that would melt ice. Point made: Andy was not too fond of crowds.

There's plenty of live material floating about on the internet with a little searching.

drewo (drewo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I second the love for Transistor Blast live stuff. I think Partridge and Moulding have fallen out now, so even more unlikely that they'll reunite.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Lots of great audio/video here http://xtc4u.org/

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Summed up above, pretty much... Being overworked by their ex-manager Ian (who they only finally settled a long laborious lawsuit with just before Nonsuch!), and MAJOR major panic anxiety led to the legendary fainting at the San Diego show in 1982, which led to the cancellation of the L.A. show the following day.. no major XTC show has happened since.

Circa late 80s, early 90s, the other band members were convinced that Partridge was over his anxieties and now he was just looking for an excuse to not do anything live...

That said, yeah, if was quite solidly clear that when Apple Venus came out, XTC were to be and always will be a studio effort only. If Partridge and Moulding have now fallen out, then that's pretty much the end of XTC for good...

..which is kinda surprising in one sense as I'm sure ILM would have been on top of this. Then again, XTC have always operated on a glacial pace since Oranges & Lemons.

Be happy with those gazillion Fuzzy Warbles collections, then!

donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

As a live act, I'm sure they were up there with Devo and Talking Heads and The Plastics and, dare I say, Gang Of Four as far as energy on stage.

donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

ARRGGH! You fuckers saw XTC live? I'm going to eat my blackened spleen out of sheer envy.

I'd love to see a reunion tour (and would pay long fucking dollars for it), but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.

Andy Partridge, by the way, plays (uncredited) on the forthcoming Shriekback album (this from the label boss, Mike Coles, at Malicious Damage who is putting it out).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

nth-ing the sentiment: all the live XTC I've heard suggests they were great in concert. Outside of the scattered tracks on the box, the only live XTC I own is the BBC Radio 1 Live set, which is fantastic.

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a cassette bootleg of a recording from Philadelphia ("Emerald City" was the venue?) circa the Black Sea tour that I literally played `til it broke. I found a recording of the same show about a decade later called Fab Four in Philly. Seek it out, as it positively smokes (especially the "Living Through Another Cuba/Generals & Majors" medley).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

btw, fyi:

As regards the future of the band, here's what Andy Partridge wrote on the official XTC Forum on 12 October 2004:

Q - How come you guys don't know if and when the next album will come out? Tall Wall
A - Because, Wallington , we just don't. Both myself and Colin are writing material but personally I'm not sure what, if anything, I want to do with it. I don't relish the thought of doing a solo album, but then I've a sneaking suspicion that the XTC engine may be all out of steam. I have to admit that in hindsight I now see Dave leaving as a bigger body blow that I thought it would be at the time. Neither Colin or myself want too kill off XTC at present, because we may ring each other up in 6 months or a year and say I've got so many songs we just have to XTC the hell out of them! But right now I'm having to wrestle with the idea that its ok for XTC to be in suspended animation. It has been before, and it didn't die. A.P

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

There's quite a number of copies of that 1981 vinyl bootleg with the drawing of the general on the cover.. I think this was a show at the Rainbow circa 1980? Anyway, that concert is fabuloso.

donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

It's really too bad that Andy's panic thing stopped them from playing live. I mean, that's a totally treatable disorder (well at least these days it is, anyway).

I just thought it was weird that they fully gave up for good, because they look like they're having a helluva lot of fun in the clip I have from the OGWT. Then again, touring is a bitch.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Live show from New Orleans in 1980 for those with a Dimeadozen account:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=45420

drewo (drewo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw XTC at the Aragon in Chicago, double billed with the Police. "Black Sea" had just come out (or maybe was just about to come out) and I think the Police were touring in support of Zenyatta Mondatta. 1980, I think, which would've made me about 16.

Anyway, it was a straight up double bill, each band playing around
90 minute sets. I can still picture Andy Partridge center stage, playing the opening riffs of "Respectable Street", starting out one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Two years later I had tickets to see them at the Park West in Chicago with Teardrop Explodes as openers. As we know, that shit never happened but I still think I have my ticket stub somewhere

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I've bragged here before about getting to see 'em circa Black Sea ( '80-'81?) at the Hollywood Palladium with the classic original lineup of Wall of Voodoo and er, Hazel O'Connor supporting.
What everyone else said : powerful, fun, kinetic, great great great.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

When I saw XTC on the Black Sea tour, they were excellent--Brad--I was AT that Palladium show !!!!

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so fucking jealous.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 June 2005 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The amount of money I'd pay to see this band live is ridiculous when I say it out loud...

cdwill, Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
From Wikipedia:

The breakdown, accompanied by uncontrollable stage fright, was reportedly precipitated by Partridge's wife throwing away his supply of Valium. According to the band's biography, Andy had become dependent upon the drug after it was prescribed to him as a teenager during his parents' divorce, but it had never been withdrawn. Concerned about her husband's dependence on the drug, his wife ill-advisedly threw his tablets away just before the concert without seeking medical advice -- the result was, not surprisingly, anxiety attacks of such severity that it soon forced Partridge to withdraw from touring permanently.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

HOLY SHIT. I am really amazed at this "Live in Concert 1980" album I found on Spotify. This is SMOKING. I had no idea they were such a fucking amazing live band.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link

That link from 9 years ago with the live stuff for download still works - http://xtc4u.org/

Nekomizu don't work (MaresNest), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:30 (nine years ago) link

the acoustic version of 'Train Running Low on Soul Coal' that starts at 1:45 here is wonderful (the whole doc is great, there aren't any other live performances tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6fi46waIY

My fiance is a purist when it comes to steampunk (soref), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link


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