What are the essential tracks for giving these guys a chance?
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
hmmmm
― donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Secret favorite low-key Pumpkins tracks -- "Set the Ray to Jerry" and "Shame."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Everything before was underdeveloped and everthing after that was bloated.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
SivaCherub RockDisarmRocketSilverfuck1979Thirty-ThreePerfect
under the radar-ish but quite worth it:
WhirHummerPenniesSet the Ray to JerryPugSilverfuck (especially live versions with snippets of "Over The Rainbow")
― PB, Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
(I'm not kidding, I'm still not convinced he's not singing "in his bum", even though I'm seeing the lyrics right in front of me)
― StanM, Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
(and "Hummer" of course)
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― - (smile), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
DrownCherub RockSilverfuckStand Inside Your LoveLoveRocketDaphne Descends PerfectBodiesThirty-Three
The essential album is Pisces Iscariot and don't let ANYBODY TELL YOU OTHERWISE!
I don't know why I don't listen to this album more often.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link
If I had to recommend one, that would be it. It's the one I rank the highest for the Pumpkins.
My fav Pumpkins rocker is probably "Siva."
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Will M. (Will M.), Sunday, 19 June 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Richard K (Richard K), Sunday, 19 June 2005 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― cilly borgan, Sunday, 19 June 2005 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― leonard (tk), Sunday, 19 June 2005 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 19 June 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
ah, but is it the FAST or the SLOW batman song?
thank you K (x-post)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 19 June 2005 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link
best? essential? ... more like a litmus test.
If you can even stand it a _little_ bit, you'll probably adore the Pumps. If not, well unfortunately many other songs by them are equally afflicted with this godawful nasal whinge & whine.
― hatorade!!!!!!, Sunday, 19 June 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I like the actual music, though, with the exception of the song Today, which is too Paul McCartney-esque in its sentiment for me to take seriously. Cherub Rock reminds me of a Heatmiser Song; I like Heatmiser, but I didn't like Cherub Rock.
The theatricality of Silverfuck, and the heavier stuff, which I like much better, reminds me of Alice Cooper's Welcome to my Nightmare album. Not sound-wise, but in the sense of the dramatic, the story-telling. Bullet w/ Buttterfly Wings was another one I really liked. I love the Zeppelin-heavy stuff--thanks for pointing me in the right direciton, all!
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 19 June 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Hahahahahhahaha oh my god, I will never hear this song the same way again.
― Roz (Roz), Sunday, 19 June 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Wait, I thought it wasn't out for two more days...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ismael, Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stoner Guy, Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://metalmachine.free.fr/billybozo.jpg
― John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link
- Through the eyes of Ruby - Obscured - Hummer - Silverfuck - Starla - Apathy's Last Kiss - Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings - The Aeroplane Flies High (looks left, turns right) - Rhinoceros - Where Boys Fear To Tread
but it's all great...
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
it's all subjective, i suppose. i've spent way too much time disecting this band...
― eedd, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Just lovely fast strummy strummy rhythm guitar. Fun to play, too.
― Viz (Viz), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
drownmayonnaiseglynisslunksilverfuckpissanthello kitty katwhy am i so tiredto sheilathe mouths of babes
― 6335, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
"Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, any love for the acoustic version of Cherub Rock released on Viewphoria?"
I've got a lot of love for that version. Always a good choice whenever someone hands you a guitar and says "Play".
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Rock star Billy Corgan has broken his silence regarding the events that took place last Saturday at the ECW television taping in Peoria, IL. The following is a transcript of his comments on the incident, which was recently covered on MTV, and will air, in its entirety, this Friday during ECW on TNN.
"Let me start by saying that this incident with "Lou E. Imitation" is a complete outrage. For weeks I had been looking forward to singing the national anthem in front of the good people of Peoria, Illinois, an honor bestowed on me by Paul Heyman himself, who had personally invited me to open the show last Saturday night. ECW is my favorite promotion in the world, and never having sung our national anthem in public before, it was an opportunity I just couldn’t say no to.
It started out to be a great night, getting the chance before the show to talk to some of my favorite wrestlers, great guys like Jerry Lynn, Rob Van Dam, The Sandman and Justin Credible. I was nervous about doing a great rendition of the anthem, but looked forward to sitting back after I sang to watch the show. So after the warm reception I received from the crowd when I was announced as a surprise guest, what followed was like a bucket of cold water. Before I could play a note I was attacked by Lou “I used to be the Sign Guy but the Dudley’s left me behind” Dangerously and his band of reckless thugs, Steve Corino, Scotty Anton, and Jack Victory.
It was, needless to say, a unwarranted intrusion upon my performance, and an insult that won’t be easily forgotten. Lou may be the greatest manager in sports entertainment, but he is a no class individual who should be ashamed to call himself an American. Hopefully the fans will get the chance to judge this entire situation for themselves Friday night on TNN"
― ballz mahoney, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Bury MePlumeLa Dolly Vita1979GalapogosAva AdoreTristessaNever Let Me DownHummerObscured
If I made the list today it'd probably be different, but I'd say 1979, La Dolly Vita, Never Let Me Down are certs. Obscured is the first one in the list every time.
― Laney, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
The End is the Beginning is the EndBury MeSoothe1979Appels & OranjesSomaSnailWhere Boys Fear To TreadBullet With Butterfly Wings
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Here are my favourites...BodiesMayonaiseCherub Rock (man...that music video..)PissantSaturninePug
― Lisa farren, Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link
takes one to know one, i suppose!
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
my own POX (in no order):
bury methirty threejellybellycherub rockrockethummereyehere is no whytristessamayonnaise
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― jared11, Saturday, 10 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― PB, Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laney, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laney, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link
DISARM still hits my sweet spot tbh
― ian, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
would agree
heard rhinoceros for the first time in over a decade the other day, sounded awesome
― king boy pamito (electricsound), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
that track, it gets so BIG. i still remember though it must be 5+ years since i've heard it
― jergins, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
rhinoceros is an essential smashing pumpkins track
― sylvia plathter cathter (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d93Yvmz4vuQ
any songs recorded while billy still had long hair are pretty essential
― sylvia plathter cathter (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
gish & siamese dream are truly lovely albums. if BC hadn't been such a dickcheese this band would have been much more highly regarded now than they are.
http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2001-06/236343.jpg
― MIDIchlorian (latebloomer), Friday, 28 August 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, DID NOT MEAN TO POST THAT PIC WITH THAT POST, BUT LMAO ANYWAY
― MIDIchlorian (latebloomer), Friday, 28 August 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
What about "Lucky 13" and "Slow Dawn"?
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
rotten appleslunamuzzleif there is a godjellybellyfor marthaporcelina of the vast oceansthru the eyes of rubyblank pagemeladori magpiesnailgeek usasivarocketsomawhere boys fear to treadfuck youset the ray to jerryi of the mourningthirty-threevanityspeed killsglass & the ghost childrenvalentinewishing you were realsoot & starshere is no whymellon collie and the infinite sadnessautumn nocturnepastichio medleyxyuwith every lightsootheplumehello kitty katappels + oranjesi am onehomeblankuglybeautifulso very sad about us
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
The thing I really liked was the kinda Hendrix styled riffs on the first album on like "I Am One", "Siva" and "Bury Me". They are all kind of plays off the same style but those were the tracks that caught me early on.
― earlnash, Sunday, 4 October 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link
autumn nocturnevalentinewishing you were realsoot & starsso very sad about us
I thought I was a relative SP completist but I have no idea what any of these are!
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 4 October 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link
"Annie-Dog" from ADORE is a stunner."Obscured""Cash Car Star""The Aeroplane Flies High""Age of Innocence""Pissant"
― beamish13, Sunday, 4 October 2015 05:42 (eight years ago) link
Let Me Give the World to You
― hhoffman, Sunday, 4 October 2015 09:13 (eight years ago) link
sivacherub rockgeek usa1979appels + oranjeswhirhello kitty katobscuredstarlaeye
hey wow that makes ten
― brimstead, Sunday, 4 October 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link
i tried, i really tried, but for me this is an all-SD and MCIS list...
01 Mayonaise (my one must-have pick)02 Thru the Eyes of Ruby03 Rocket04 Cupid de Locke04 Cherub Rock05 Where Boys Fear To Tread06 Tonight, Tonight07 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans08 Silverfuck09 197910 Muzzle
This is definitely a "best" rather than a "sampler" list - maybe not showing all the things they did well or tried to do, but w/e. There's tons of stuff I like or love on Gish and Adore and even Machina but if I'm honest with myself about what I'd absolutely have to save from this band if the earth caught fire, this is it. Sturm und drang and the wash of inchoate rage and romantic disaster against the voice of Billy Corgan, hopeful little dreamboy amongst the flowers. The best psychedelia of the 90s? The fucking weirdest guitar rock albums to sell millions and millions of copies to however many equally wide-eyed and secretly precious teenage souls? God this was a great band in its day.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
RhinocerosMayonnaise (despite my aversion condiment)SomaDrown
A few years ago I realized this was all the SD I needed.
― the cuddling of the american behind (how's life), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
SP
i kind of want to make a mix editing together a bunch of billy's guitar solos, pastichio medley style
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
"soot and stars" is a machina b-side, a relatively pretty piano ballad. it was on that b-side collection they included with some copies of the greatest hits. the others iirc are on various demo comps. "autumn nocturne" is a hilarious pick for "essential" sp
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes! this is the first one that came to mind-
2:12 to 2:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzBVvD1vUvM
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
2:20 to 2:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbPCMoAFHAg
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
nice
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
i have signed up to do the Smashing Pumpkins poll and it will be more than 20 picks.
so in about 3 years...
― Bee OK, Friday, 9 October 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link