Bowie - It's No Game Pt.1 C/D?

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Inspired by the revival of the Outside thread which I really enjoyed reading, I'm keen to know what ILM thinks about this It's No Game Pt1.

Highlights for me:

The pitch shifted/harmonised Drums & count-in.
The SFX of a 2 inch multitrack tape being laced up at the start (and spooling off at the end of the album)
Fripp's insane deconstructed rock and roll guitar licks, and the incessant ending.
The comically neanderthal, but somehow still swingin' drum fills.
The way Bowie's voice tears especially on the word 'situation'.
The general dumbness and the fact it's an approach he's never really repeated.


1
2
1-2-2
Shiruetto ya kage ga
Kakumei o miteiru
Mo tengoku no giyu no kaidan wa nai

Silhouettes and shadows watch the revolution
No more free steps to heaven
It's no game

Ore genjitsu kara shime dasare
Nani ga okkote irunoka wakara nai
Doko ni kyokun wa arunoka
Hitobito wa yubi o orareteiru
Konna dokusaisha ni iyashime rareru nowa kanashii

I am bored from the event
I really don't understand the situation
But it's no game

Documentaries on refugees
Couples 'gainst the target
You throw a rock against the road
And it breaks into pieces
Draw the blinds on yesterday, and it's all so much scarier
Put a bullet in my brain, and it makes all the papers

Nammin no kiroku eiga
Hyoteki o se ni shita koibito tachi
Michi ni ishi o nage reba
Kona gona ni kudake
Kino ni huta o sureba
Kyohu wa masu
Ore no atama ni tama o buchi kome ba
Shinbun wa kaki tateru

There's always tomorrow when people have their fingers broken
To be insulted by these fascists - it's so degrading
And it's no game

Shutup! Shutu...

mzui (mzui), Friday, 15 July 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, Classic, CLASSIC! If only for the raspy screaming of the "situatioooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" line. And the "Shut Up!" part. Oh yeah, one of my fave Bowie tunes.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 15 July 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep. To everything above.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 15 July 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed. I will listen now.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

The SFX of a 2 inch multitrack tape being laced up at the start (and spooling off at the end of the album)

Is that what that is? That's always mystified me.

Oh, and UTTER, UTTER, UTTER MOTHERFUCKING CLASSIC! If only the rest of the album --- though still quite good --- lived up the the promise of this song.

"PUT A BULLET IN MY BRAIN -- AND IT MAKES ALL THE PAPERS!"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, mzui, you forgot Michi Hirota's insane Japanese!

There's also some crazy panning w/ the hihats going on during the (awesome) bridge -- or noticable there, at least. I think there's two drummers on this, actually.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

For some inexplicable reason, I always imagined the opening sounds as someone clamping a gas mask over David's head in front of the microphone.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I just wanted the rest of the album to sound this UNHINGED.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree. And the lyrics and singing on the rest of the album support critics' worst ideas about Bowie. Still classic.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, too -- although I just noticed that "Up the Hill Backwards"'s sing-songy throwback weirdness is very appropriate following this.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

SHUT UP!!! [Fripp doodles] SHUT UAWWWWWpppft.....

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 16 July 2005 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with the consensus that this is utter brilliance. I'd just add that Bowie may have lifted the "Shup up!" idea from video artist David Critchley, who in 1978-9 made a video called "Pieces I Never Did". This video (which I saw at the time in the New 57 Gallery in Edinburgh) consisted of Critchley staging all the ideas he'd stopped himself from doing (for instance, masturbating in front of the camera), intercut with Critchley censoring them, shouting "Shut up! Shut up!" into the camera. You can see stills from the piece here, including Critchley's "Shut up!" shouting bit.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 16 July 2005 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd just add that Bowie may have lifted the "Shup up!" idea from video artist David Critchley, who in 1978-9 made a video called "Pieces I Never Did"

Then I guess Tim Smith of Cardiacs took up that baton and ran with it. (in his own small, unhinged way)

Oh yea and I love the fantastic Japanese verses, no idea what is being said though. I read somewhere in a Bowie book that, at the time, the delivery was considered to be quite daring in it's anti-submissive nature.

Also, never played live? Why? I'm sure his current band could dumb down enough.

Infact hardly any of Scary Monsters has been done live really, overshadowed by the singles maybe.

mzui (mzui), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Here is a link to an outtake from the Scary Monsters sessions, it's an instrumental called 'Is There Life After Marriage?'

I'm guessing it was probably dropped before Bowie put any vocals on it which, IMHO, is a bit of a shame.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P6F5ZVDGPEDJ21QLFGD9ZAL43

mzui (mzui), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. Best thing on album. First time I heard it jaw dropped right open. "To be insulted by these fascists" - his delivery slays me every time. Just underlining all of the above, really.

Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Very classic.

Does anyone know what the noise at the end of Part 2 is? I've been trying to figure that out for many years.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Answer at the start of the thread.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 17 July 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

I never knew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBUPIZnrZ6M

MaresNest, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

Absolute fucking classic, of course!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

I hadn't listened to Scary Monsters until a year or so ago. I'd heard good things, but '80s Bowie wasn't particularly enticing to me. Boy, what a chowderhead I was. This song is in my permanent rotation now. Surely the rawest/fiercest thing I've heard him do.

Smoothie Operator (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

I was a chowderhead about '80s Bowie in general, as well. Early '80s, anyway.

Smoothie Operator (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Scary Monsters will always remain his best since Scary Monsters.

Classic, Classic, CLASSIC! If only for the raspy screaming of the "situatioooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" line. And the "Shut Up!" part. Oh yeah, one of my fave Bowie tunes.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 15 July 2005 22:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just wanted the rest of the album to sound this UNHINGED.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 July 2005 01:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

sooo otm. I...... kind of feel there are moments in Tin Machine where Bowie could sell those songs if he'd truly gone full-tilt vocal shred like he did here

fgti, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

If I'm being TRULY honest, Scary Monsters is probably my favorite Bowie album.

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

SHUT UP

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

1st side classic, 2nd side not so classic, but the first side is so great that it doesn't matter

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

I love a lot of songs on Scary Monsters, but on the whole I rate Lodger much higher.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

^yeah otm. This is the best song on here for miles (aside from Ashes to Ashes)

all that glitters ain't cyber gold (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link

Am I the only one who prefers the deadpan laid-backness of pt. 2?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link

I like pt. 2 a lot, but only because of the contrast/link with the monster that is pt. 1

willem, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, side one is killer, side two is filler, though the musicianship across the board (esp. all the Fripp improvs) are great. Lodger is the better album, though.

Should have been on the album, somewhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm2ciX0_UP8

But certainly someone was paying attention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN6sfJ1qFQg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link

The arrangements, the precision of the mix, that huge SOUND still fool me into thinking this is a great album.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

Still a better album than anything that came after.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

I dunno. It's as uneven and rewarding as The Buddha of Suburbia, Outside, and Reality..

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

It's a good album but it's definitely the first one where the veil is dropped. As a kid getting into Bowie I gagged at the album title and art, "so corny, and this is supposed to be good?"

my booty it clean (fgti), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

xpost The highs of those album are nowhere near the highs of this album.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOBQBbqSs1g

MaresNest, Monday, 6 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Okay so there's a version of this on the new Lazarus soundtrack, it is jokes.

MaresNest, Monday, 24 October 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpyzKgIExw

MaresNest, Monday, 24 October 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

"Okay, could we try that again with even less urgency?"

doug watson, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

Random japanese because it "sounds/looks cool" is cringey in vaporwave and it was cringey when David Bowie did it too

punksishippies, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

Actually, it was cool when Bowie did it…

...until 5 minutes ago anyway when I heard the Lazarus version (short term memory wipe, please?).

Annoyingly, the only tracks from Lazarus you can't get on Spotify are the new Bowie ones on Disc 2.

Jeff W, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the Japanese in It's No Game is a transliteration woven into the Eigo lyrics and Hirota's masculine delivery was for the time, very provocative, so I agree with Jeff, it's not anything close to cringey.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:31 (seven years ago) link

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve)
Posted: January 13, 2015 at 1:44:58 PM

1st side classic, 2nd side not so classic, but the first side is so great that it doesn't matter

OTM

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve)
Posted: January 13, 2015 at 1:44:58 PM

1st side classic, 2nd side not so classic, but the first side is so great that it doesn't matter

OTM

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

Whoa you can double post if your thumb spasms and hits the button twice fast

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link

Ore genjitsu kara shime dasare!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

I fuckin adore this song...one of the greatest bridges ever

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:08 (seven years ago) link

It's so enjoyable to listen to bowies performance on this track and simultaneously 'hear' the enervated delivery he is going to use on the album closer.
'To be insulted by these fascists is SO degrading...'

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:15 (seven years ago) link

Jon, someone did a mashup of the two parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECTQ85glsvo

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:57 (seven years ago) link

Just picking up on the fact that this was written ten years prior to Scary Monsters. Glad he waited to officially release it, as the SM arrangement elevates the track to something magnificent.

doug watson, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

Konna dokusaisha ni iyashime rareru nowa kanashii!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

wow he wrote it way back then? Same lyrics and everything?

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

didn't know that

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

For what it's worth, I saw the Lazarus show (someone gave me tickets) and like a lot of Broadway-ish stuff, it was largely stupid and partly great, and I'm sure the cast album contains mostly stupid. I walked out of it reasonably happy to have seen it. Some visual bits that I won't forget, a bunch of bad versions of Bowie songs, a few good ones, etc.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

A/Bing the Lazarus and Bowie tracks, kind of crazy how dry the former sounds. it's a decent attempt, they are playing the same arrangement, even indulging in that "bad" singing, but it still sounds so clean and sterile compared to Bowie's.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

more fair to say DB only wrote the bridge melody/lyric (mostly) in 1970; the rest of "Game" was new

col, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

The Pushing Ahead of the Dame blog post about It's No Game is great

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link


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