the avalanches - since i left you

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why was everyone so excited about a disco-y coldcut record?

ethan, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh but i love it.

ethan, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

WHERE WERE YOU 8 MOS. AGO WHEN THE DAMN THING COSTS 20 BUCKS? HUH?

(because it's good.)

jess, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ethan's right, tho.. sorta. It's a fine record, but it does just sound like Coldcut playing around with the fluffier half of Stereolab's record collection.

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But do Stereolab own "Tammy" by Debbie Reynolds? I can't imagine it ...

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

FTR, the quality (or lack thereof) of The Avalanches has never been about technical ability or radical newness, but rather the emotional power of their work. One person's "fluffy" is another person's (ie. me) swooning/heartbreaking masterpiece. etc.

Tim, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

also it's fun to imagine them listening to raekwon.

ethan, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Also, as much attention as they get for using SO MANY SAMPLES, BLAH BLAH BLAH, it really does seem to be about more than just the medium. It's a very affecting, tender record (this has been said a million times I know), not showy and flashy. (Well, maybe "Frontier Psychiatrist" is, but I really think that's the odd one out on the record, and I don't think the record would fail without it.).

Plus it's ridiculously dense and labyrinthine - I hear at least 5 new things every time I listen to it, even if I'm only marginally concentrating on it. New snippets of voice (of which there are MANY) that add mystery and complexity to the ambiguous but strongly felt (by me at least) narrative of the record.

Clarke B., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Plus that little juxtaposition of the girls talking with the smooth dude saying "got the bubbly/ runnin' through me (spaaaaarklin'!)" puts a huge smile on my face everytime. It's such a vivid, visual sample.

Clarke B., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

That's a Camp Lo sample.

Honda, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This was predictable. But you're right, the album lost its sheen quickly and I haven't listened to it in over a month.

Dan I., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tim sort of let on in citing the "emotional power" of their work, but I think the music on that record only exists insofar as it's affirmed by the smile it inevitably brings to your face. It's almost outrageously altruistic in that way, like the most pronounced instance of a group handing over music to be soaked up by whoever's listening. Almost like the Avanlanches were less invested in the act of making music than in handing it over, the way sometimes you just desperately want somebody to like something as much as you do.

Andy, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

because it is a great warm up for a party

because its a summertime cd for the winter

because its zany

because that womans voice on the title track makes me want to scrump

Brock K, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dan, my experience has been just the opposite; I wasn't blown away by any means at first, but each subsequent listen reveals more depth and riches.

And Andy, though your point is interesting, I don't necessarily agree. I think the Avalanches' compositional skills are always underemphasized - this is SUCH a meticulously crafted record, but unlike a lot of "turntablist" records, it doesn't come across like a meticulously crafted record. You don't hear the sweat, which is a magnificent feat for such a complex, detailed album.

Clarke B., Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I listened to it on an airplane, trying to hear it as a collection of wistful half-memories and forgotten dreams (the way Josh likes it). Then I listened to it while sitting on the porch of my rich friend's parents' expensive holiday home, overlooking the beach. It worked much better in the latter context.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's a grower, but far too much of the record just plods along as if the batteries are running low or something. Also, I know it's easy to say "oh it's just a radio mix, innit? all samples and they do nothing with 'em" - and I can see both sides of that argument. Even so, the moment when Saïan Supa Crew pop up is still a breath of fresh air (tho' I like them a lot anyway, as regulars will know).

Jeff W, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The whole "it's all samples" line baffles me though. If any of the house tracks were released as bootlegs everyone would think they were just Basement Jaxx or something (ie. self-constructed with only necessary sampling), and likewise Saint Etienne could have easily recorded "Two Hearts In 3/4 Time" as an instrumental snippet, just as Boards Of Canada could have done "Etoh". Very little of the album to me sounds like a self- conscious samples record. The bootleg version is an entirely different matter, of course.

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Meant to say: "If any of the house tracks were released as white labels...

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The bootleg version is an entirely different matter, of course.

explain.

the album really works remarkably well driving around in the late summer, through the relatively unpopulated backroads of suburban pa. windows down, etc. etc.

(note: please subsitute yr own backwater for suburban pa.)

jess, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Two occasions where I really loved this album.

1. The day I bought it, Saturday after I had finished school forever, it was very sunny and I walked through town with it on my discman. Then I got home and went for a drive with my friends with it playing some more. Later we drank beer in my garden and listened to it again, it was a good day all round.

2. The day I was due to leave Prague and go to Paris when I was on holiday last year. We had about 5 hours to kill so we decided to go back to the Marquis De Sade, this bar we had been to alot during the week. It's a cool place, with a big high ceiling, it looks as though it used to be a theatre about 200 years ago. Anyway I gave it to the girl behind the bar and asked her to put it on and she did. So we had a few beers, and it was nice and quiet and a good way to end our holiday.

I should probably add that I find after the first few times I listen to something I'm just vainly attempting to recapture what I liked originally.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I should probably add that I find after the first few times I listen to something I'm just vainly attempting to recapture what I liked originally.

i think that's most of us.

jess, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah I imagined so. I find it with people too.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jess - there was a tape circulated prior to the album's release the contains most of the album mixed with clearance-unfriendly chunks of other stuff - The Smiths' "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side", Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun", a Bob Dylan song that I don't know (the chorus goes "How does it FEEL!" - this was originally the music played over bassline from Madonna's "Holiday", but of course there was no way they'd ever be able clear it), Detroit Grand Pubahs' "Sandwiches", Ol' Dirty Bastard's "Got Your Money" etc. etc. etc.

Now, the fun part is: I have this tape.

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tim, if you don't tranfer it to mp3 and post it on the modern interweb and risk prosecution, I'll be most disappointed.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mitch, it's a *tape* and I am a techno-FOOL. How on earth would I go about doing this? (but if you want a copy, e-mail me)

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

a Bob Dylan song that I don't know (the chorus goes "How does it FEEL!

kids these days! ;) that's be "Like A Rolling Stone".

Uncle Fritz, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can get it on audiogalaxy. It's the same as the Breezeblock mix they did for Radio 1.

Michael, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tim, are you referring to 'Like a Rolling Stone'???!?

Josh, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Clark, I didn't mean to undercut the compositional greatness of it. Just to say that the giddy joy jumping off that record makes the craft part of it really transparent, less about making music than being evangelical about it.

Andy, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tim - Does it have a section w/ PE's "Bring The Noise"? I asked about that on another thread a while back - a friend heard something w/ that mixed in & said it was amazing.

Mark, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually, the version of "Like a Rolling Stone" I know best comes courtesy of Sebastian Cabot.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the bootleg tape is called GIMIX and can be found on audio galaxy. Great stuff on it.

chris, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, it probably is "Like A Rolling Stone" - hey I never claimed to know Bob Dylan. I bought Blood On The Tracks a year ago and have listened to it, like, three times.

Mark - possibly. I can't remember everything that's on side 2. I'll check.

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
I've changed my mind about the "wistful half-memories and forgotten dreams" thing I said upthread. It's taken about four months for this album to finally connect. Until tonight, I probably would've described this record as pleasant, with occasional moments of finely- constructed greatness.

On the way to university earlier this week, I was listening to a mix cd I made last year that had "Frontier Psychiatrist" on it (I made this disc about half a year before actually buying "Since I Left You", incidentally.) When it ended, my brain starting playing "Etoh". When the next track came on, and it wasn't "Etoh", I felt so dismayed and frustrated that I had to switch the radio off. So that made me realize that I'd obv felt more strongly about this stuff than I had previously imagined. So I listened again tonight, and what I heard was rather fucking gorgeous. When I finally did reach "Etoh", I almost had to turn the player off, because I was thisclose to breaking down and sobbing, something I haven't done in years. (Which maybe says more about my current emotional state right now than the album, but that's music for you.)
Secondly, why do I seem to only catch on to ILM favourites months after the fact?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh Blog reprazent, yo.

Josh, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

I'm amused to learn that i didn't know "Like A Rolling Stone" in 2002.

Tim F, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

I was amused to learn that too!

yugi ex, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Is that a Nat King Cole piano sample on "Tonight May Have to Last Me All My Life"?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link


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