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I'm reading "Milestones" by Jack Chambers and it's fucking amazing. Other suggestions?

J (Jay), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

these are all worth your while:

art pepper's autobiography - "straight life"
paul bley's autobiography - "stopping time"
mingus's autobiography - "beneath the underdog"

dan (dan), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Space is the Place" Sun Ra bio
Miles' autobiography
Beneath the Underdog - Mingus
Bright Moments - Roland Kirk

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Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 1 August 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Read "Bright Moments" and was less than thrilled. FWIW, it is my understanding that large parts of Miles' autobiography were in fact rewritten from Jack Chambers's book! Chambers is diplomatic on the point in his introduction to the new edition, noting that he must have been doing something right if the man himself decided to use him as source material.

J (Jay), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Miles autobio and Space is the Place seconded.

Also:
Derek Bailey - Improvisation
Forces in Motion: The Music and Thoughts of Anthony Braxton

Not as notable but worth reading depending on where your interests lie:

Free Jazz - Jost
Miles Beyond - Paul Tingen
Ornette Coleman - A Harmelodic Life - Litweiller
and there's a good Coltrane bio that I can't find at the moment.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Eric Dolphy - The Importance of Being

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I, Paid My Dues: Good Times, No Bread - A Story of Jazz by
Babs Gonzales is THE jazz book.

The title is jazz, the cover is jazz and Babs, the mad old bastard, is extremely fucking jazz.

Shonky Whitlow, Monday, 1 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

4 Lives In the Bebop Business (or 4 Jazz Lives in newer editions) by A.B. Spellman (on Cecil Taylor, Ornette Coleman, Herbie Nichols, and Jackie McLean) is fantastic! Also Nat Hentoff's 'Jazz Is,' and the John Coltrane book called Ascension.

B Nasty (B Nasty), Monday, 1 August 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Geoff Dyer (I think that's his name, can't put my hands on the book right now) "But Beautiful" (that's the title, fer shure)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Outcats, by Francis Davis (in fact, anything by Francis Davis)(ditto Gary Giddins); The Freedom Principle, by John Litweiler, just like I'd hoped from the title, is not about Free Jazz per se, but what "free" meant in various styles/eras; Priestley's Mingus bio gets way into the details of life *and* music (when could easily have played it safe, by sticking to the verifiable [behavorial, not artistic]outrages of the life); Sidney Bechet's autobio, Treat It Gentle (funny title, considering that others say he could ill like Mingus and Miles; he's as good a storyteller as Mingus and Miles, too)

don, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

scott deveaux - the birth of bebop
paul berliner - thinking in jazz: the infinite art of improvisation

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:08 (eighteen years ago) link

As Serious As Your Life Valerie Wilmer (avant-garde overview)
Blues People Leroi Jones (Amiri Baraka)
Four Lives In The Bebop Business AB Spellman SECONDED
All What Jazz Philip Larkin Not for everybody, but if you can read past his reactionary hidebound taste his prose is unbeatable

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wow edd I thought Geoff Dyer's But Beautiful was piss, a half-assed attempt at "jazz fiction" -- maybe I should try it again.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:35 (eighteen years ago) link

max harrison 'a jazz retrospect'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Martin William's "The Jazz Tradition" is one of the best critical studies.

Not Thaat Chuck, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Arthur Taylor's book of musician-to-musician interviews, Notes & Tones.

Also Fred Wesley's autobiography, Hit Me, Fred has a whole lot of jazz in it.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"High Times Hard Times" by Anita O'Day!

todd (todd), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Second Martin Williams, any of his collections, likewise Gary Giddins. Whitney Balliet's criticism is perceptive and beautifully written but his taste is pretty old school/conservative. Thinking in Jazz by Paul F Berliner is fantastic if you are interested in how jazz musicians think about the music, a bit technical but not so much so that you need a degree in music to understand it. Some of the shine has gone off the reputation of Ian Carr's bio of Miles, but I think unfairly so and would still recommend it.

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh shit, can't believe I forgot the Wilmer book - def. seconded on that.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

That Litweiler one's a particular favourite of mine - it's basically a look at post-Ornette jazz, primarily free, with a few brief detours into modal and fusion. It's light on technical jargon, which pleases me. But his very subjective opinions and descriptions may not be everyone's taste - he's always taking off on flights of fancy, saying things like [Sun Ra's]"'The Magic City' is a parable of disillusionment" and "Albert Ayler's 'Mothers' evokes nostalgia - for old-timey chequered aprons, apple pies cooling and grandmothers who silently fart at the dinner table." With an apparent straight face! Frankly I think the guy's a bit of a pothead. Like I said, not a book for everyone.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Lit (good name for a pothead eh) also deals with pre-Trane jazz. His Ra/Ayler reveries are appropriate, reflecting the sensiblities of the music, but not too passively (the folksy, sentimental aspect of Ayler should be addressed, and why not poke at his constructions, they can take it--like Harry Smith's tabloid headlines kidding the songs on his great Smithsonian Anthology). On the other hand, he's a bit too rah-rah/gee whiz re his local (Chicago) scene, and too bitchy-reductionist re electric Miles (who cares if he did it cos Columbia said he had to; they got a lot more than they bargained for, artistically and further debtwise!) Though he's right about Bitches Brew being basically a bad, sweet-wine buzz, I suspect (haven't listened late). Then again, he enjoys Prime Time, even its disco tendencies!(almost unmentionable when this book came out, between the Disco Sucks era and early Marsalisization). Not for everyone, but that's okay. Leroi Jones, hell yeah (at his unabashed best and worst, a great influence on Lit, Lester, lots of the best and some of the worst)

don, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

In addition to the above mentioned Miles stuff, I dug Szwed's book 'So What.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Joachim Berendt's The Jazz Book is an essential read, I think. Jaco Pastorius' biography (Jaco) made me cry, it's well written. Bird Lives!, the Charlie Parker biography, is very good too.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Bird The Legend of Charlie Parker / Reisner
Oral biography compilation of short interviews with wives, musicians, etc.

Space is the Place /Szwed

Black Music Jones/Baraka sort of an artifact now, but a good intro to the 60's culture of black nationalist music

4 Lives /Spellman

John Coltrane /Lewis Porter

Jazz: It's Evolution and Essence /Andre Hodeir
Intellectual analysis, french, pre-freejazz
better than Martin Williams which is also worth reading

Litweiler

New Musical Configuations (about Anthony Braxton) /Radano

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I really enjoyed Milestones.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Another vote here for Geoff Dyer's But Beautiful – sad stories, rivettingly told.

I'm currently reading Mike Heffley's Northern Sun, Southern Moon about European free jazz and improv. Highly academic and erudite, not an easy read by any means but great to see this music getting the serious critical attention it deserves.

anagram, Monday, 21 June 2010 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Anyone ever read Black Music by Leroi Jones (Amiri Baraka)?

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

i did read that one -- some great insight, though some of it may have gone a bit over my head...

tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

cool, i'll check it out! i'm accustomed to my head being 2 to 3 feet below where things fly, so no big deal there

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Read it long time ago for a university class actually. Can't remember that much about it tbh. Found some of it interesting I recall.

curmudgeon, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

I should revisit Geoff Dyer's But Beautiful. I like his writing generally, but was a bit put off by his dismissal of free jazz and hyperbolic stanning for Keith Jarrett (the greatest musician of our times my arse). Having different opinions is fine though - he writes about the music well.

I have both Black Music and Blues People lined up. Baraka's poetry is in itself a kind of jazz writing at times. Worth checking out the PennSound archive for readings such as I Love Music, where he impersonates Coltrane's horn to electrifying effect.

Val Wilmer's As Serious As Your Life is essential, but I'd also recommend her memoir, Mama Said There'd Be Days Like This. She's an absolute hero. Would also like to read her collection of interviews, Jazz People.

I've heard great things about George Lewis's book on the AACM, A Power Stronger Than Itself.

Ben Ratliffe's Coltrane book is good and I'll add to the Litweiler praise.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 1 June 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

Could never read Dyer on jazz -- and given a couple of things I've seen by him its amazing he got it published. Some FIFA styles corruption going on there.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 June 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

but beautiful has some good stuff in it, but yeah, borders on fan-fic (i imagine the musicians he writes about would be mildly horrified by some of it).

tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Ben Ratliff book on Trane is not a patch on the pants of the Lewis Porter one mentioned upthread.

Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 June 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

perhaps inspired by this thread, i bought a random JAZZ BOOK during my lunch break today. don't know if it'll be great or not!
http://www.thewire.co.uk/2013/08/13/Beyond_A_Love_Supreme.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

Ashley Kahn book about A Love Supreme is very good, don't know that book you bought.

Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

yeah i just bought it because it was greatly discounted ... kahn's book is good!
this one might be on the academic side of things, but seems to cover coltrane's late period fairly extensively, so that hopefully will be interesting.

tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Loved Frank Kofsky's bk on Coltrane -- almost like the only one I need, especially the way things are #politics

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 June 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

Lots of good recommendations here ... not mentioned yet:

Duke Ellington, Music Is My Mistress
Louis Armstrong, Satchmo and Swing That Music
Mezz Mezzrow, Really the Blues

Brad C., Monday, 1 June 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

I"ll check out the Lewis Porter. Sounds quite musicological, but I can handle a bit of that (says he with his Grade 5 Music Theory, haw).

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

I have Ashley Kahn's The House That Trane Built. It's a coffee table book with lush photos of the Impulse! album art, but it's full of detailed background and analysis.

Picked up John Edward Hasse's Beyond Category: The Life And Genius of Duke Ellington recently. Heard mixed reports, but it's based on the Ellington archives, so research wise it should be solid.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Various of the Penguin Book of jazz have been better than others and its gone through quite a few volumes.

The big THelonious Monk biography that came out 5 years or so ago which is presumably the Kelley one.

I've got Billie's Blues somewhere and haven't read it through so can't really say if it is a classic but seems pretty good.

A book called something like Note For Note which is a lot of interviews conducted by an ex-player sometime around the late 60s/early 70s . I really do need to get some organisation in here cos its around somewhere.

Blue Note Cover Art which is now in several volumes.

Herman leonard's book of Jazz photography which I managed to get for 99c a couple of years back

Stevolende, Monday, 1 June 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/gallery/2014/oct/04/catastrophic-coltrane/

Anyone like this? Tiresome middlebrow worries, etc.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

It's funny that he thought he could re-ignite a debate that was settled 40 years ago. But maybe the fact that the debate wasn't settled to his anti-new-music liking is why he tried to re-ignite it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

Various of the Penguin Book of jazz have been better than others and its gone through quite a few volumes.

The first one was a revelation -- learned about who was who in the FMP stable (and a fair amount of vinyl was still in print/reviewed), great Duke recommendations, all-around indispensable. Was never steered wrong by their five-star (or later "crown") recommendations.

Later volumes more-or-less rose or fell on what was in or out of print at the time. I gave up around the fifth volume, when they started heaping praise on mediocre also-rans.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

THe book I refer to above as note for Note is actually Notes and Tones by Arthur Taylor which is based on conversations carried out between 1968 and 1972 with a lot of jazz musicians. it has a lot of people going back to bebop days, possibly further as well as some who came up in the 60s new Thing. I found it in my local 2nd hand/remainder book shop. It first came out in '77 then Da Capo republished it in '93.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 08:37 (eight years ago) link

It's been mentioned already but Miles' autobiography is amazing - not just a great book about music but one of the best books I ever read. His narrative voice is unique and the descriptions of 30s 40s New York are wonderfully evocative - it's also a powerful story about drug addiction and racism.

I recently read Teachout's Armstrong bio which was very informative but not very interesting as literature, then read David Hajdu's Strayhorn bio which was a well told, moving story - but still, nothing so far has come close to the Miles bio for me. I guess I'll just read that one again, but if anyone can books with somewhat similar aesthetics I'll be very pleased.

niels, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link

ugh @ geoff dyer. I'm apparently the only reader on earth who finds his work pointless and annoying. this coltrane review does nothing to correct that. I'll leave the analysis to wiser more musically literate heads while quoting this astonishingly vacuous and presumptious sentence as a parting shot.

But Coltrane seems to have felt compelled to add musicians in the hope that doing so would clarify the reason for having done so.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

I'm apparently the only reader on earth who finds his work pointless and annoying

I posted that you know :-)

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

Wanted to like his Lawrence book, can't remember if I succeeded or not

Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link

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well i meant outside our enlightened circle!

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link

I want to read more about the following: John Coltrane, Tarkovsky and Lawrence.

Just not by him. xp = ah!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:25 (eight years ago) link

including of course noted jazz db and one man graham parker tribute band james redd

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

mystified by dyer's ratio of good reviews to wooly prose but whatever. have long considered an ILB diatribe in his honor but this will do.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link

Dyer's book reads as if it was written by someone who buys jazz records bcs the covers look cool. I thoroughly enjoyed Richard Williams' The Blue Moment, which uses Kind Of Blue as a starting point to explore Riley, Reich, VU, Eno, The Necks etc etc.

mahb, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

one man graham parker tribute band james redd
lol. Saw Steve Goulding perform last week, did not see him last night, discussed his future whereabouts including another Rumour reunion show a few minutes ago.

Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 June 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

Yes, the Williams book is lovely. His blog, The Blue Moment, is always worth a look too: review of gigs and records, plus the odd retrospective piece.

Had a skim through Duncan Heinings Trad Dads, Dirty Boppers and Free Fusioneers: British Jazz 1960-75 in the uni library the other day. A little dry and academic in style, but it's well put together and his research is excellent.

Has anyone read Ian Carr's Music Outside, which covers a similar topic/period? It's cited a lot.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 4 June 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

RIP Nat Hentoff

curmudgeon, Sunday, 8 January 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link

Former Voice blogger Tom Breihan is now tweeting about how Hentoff was the only one he ever saw stand up to New Times-era Voice honcho Lacey in person---at a really bad meeting, with Lacey having a shitfit all over several VV veterans.

dow, Sunday, 8 January 2017 04:46 (seven years ago) link

I asked him just now who else was there for the treatment:
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@0wlred I mean: Tom Robbins, Greg Tate, Christgau, Lynn Yaeger, Chuck Eddy, Joy Press, Musto, forget who all else. It was a hell of a room.
10:44 PM - 7 Jan 2017

dow, Sunday, 8 January 2017 04:48 (seven years ago) link

Ilx's tylerw tweeted this pic of two Hentoff books I still need to get:
if they don't show up, they're Hear Me Talkin' To Ya: The Story of Jazz As Told By The Men Who Made It(co-edited with Nat Shapiro) and Jazz Is.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1nVEX8UQAAhPb6.jpg:large

dow, Sunday, 8 January 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

RIP. Actually this revive would be about the Bob Porter book Phil posted about on the Rolling Jaxx thread.

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Lol at typo.

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

60-61, on Candid, 4 CDs (if doesn't show, it's Cecil Taylor, The Nat Hentoff Sessions, with Shepp etc.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Bx-vSUoAQY5l-.jpg

dow, Saturday, 14 January 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

I think that iteration of those recordings (it used to be a Mosaic set; the version in the photo is on the Solar label out of Spain, the same folks who did that amazing Sonny Rollins/Don Cherry 6CD live set last year) is out of print already - I see it going for exorbitant third-party prices now when it was originally under $25.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 14 January 2017 02:43 (seven years ago) link

Is there a salty, anecdote-heavy history of jazz from 1920s to 50s that isn't too scary for a non-muso?

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 12:55 (seven years ago) link

Miles Davis' autobio

niels, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 13:09 (seven years ago) link


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