Why not have a Wolfgang Voigt catch-all thread?

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the man, the legend, the many many aliases. c/d, s/d, gas vs filter

fe7 (FE7), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

dude this thread is gonna be huge. brofy voigt has like 10,000,000,000 records.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it true he's never left Germany?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

The GAS records rule. Konigsforst and Pop just make my day every time.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 27 August 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Another discography:

http://www.circonium.de/music/voigt.html

Konigsforst is one of my favourite techno albums ever. I have my moments with M:I:5 -- it's good, but the Mastab CD grates on you after a while. That material was definitely meant to be enjoyed in the vinyl single format. Same goes for most of his stuff as All (was there a proper All album), although the Alltag 1-4 EP could have been stretched into an album, easy. It seemed like he was taking cues from Dettinger on that one -- there's a tranquility in that record that is missing in other All releases.

The other day I was sorting through a bunch of old magazines and found an interview with him in an old NME (complete with picture), interviewed as Mike Ink around the time of "Paroles" and "Polka Trax" on Warp (his real name was never mentioned)! I'd completely forgotten about this article, in part because it came out long before his name meant anything to me (for the most part, I wasn't a big fan of the Mike Ink stuff, although I've been meaning to revisit that music for some time now).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 27 August 2005 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i regularly lose bids on w.voigt discs @ eBay. i have all the GAS but still need to get M:I:5 masstab etc.. (note that i have picked up many r.voigt discs on the cheap, esp. the pentax titles - which are great and due for major revisit by all folks.) on the profan comp i do have, the M:I:5 titles are the standouts.

i don't think there was an ALL album. there sure as hell should have been. those records are beautiful.

on another thread tim finney correctly pinned "fackeln in sturm" as the fount from which all kompakt joy spills. that whole period in the late 90s/early 00s, studio 1/profan/M:I:5/freiland etc is unfairly overlooked i feel.

jon dale, Saturday, 27 August 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link

the masstab:1:5 records are like the origin of schaffel. i have the CD comp and i agree w/ barry - it definitely grates after a while. i had a choice between buying masstab and pentax and i wish i'd grabbed pentax!

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 27 August 2005 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I mentioned this in another thread as an FYI, but there's a brief interview/Kompakt tour with W. Voigt in this electronic music DVD magazine called Slices that T-Mobile either sponsored or created for the European market. You can sometimes get it free with orders from Juno or Phonica. Kompakt was in issue #1. The current issue features Hawtin and Villalobos.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Saturday, 27 August 2005 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Now that all Profan tracks are available at kompakt's mp3 site. Can anyone make an imaginary double CD: Best of Profan. 14 tracks or so ... Andy K, are u there?

i feelspace, Friday, 21 October 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

mike ink's (?) GAS project: classic or dud.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
No discussion of Mint! Jesus, one of the most perfect CDs on Earth would be a compilation of all the Mint stuff. 1st ep Phonogram especially.. "Better Things Von Massive Attack"... oh lord it beats every chill-out/trip-hop instrumental ever. fucking sublime!

babedad, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:11 (sixteen years ago) link

y'all need to hear this shit

babedad, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

kompakt is putting all the gas stuff out as a box set!

haitch, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

this was discussed on the Gas Poll thread, but I would love to see any more info (beyond the pfork article) posted here.

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Me too.

stephen, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

whooo

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 06:24 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

woo, got this today.

jim, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i have not picked up the box yet, but i plan to asap.

the real reason i am posting here is that i am listening to the awesome [las vegas] right now and damn if this one doesn't need the deluxe treatment as well. anyone know the story behind the title?

tricky, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure where to even start with this one. Everyone here at aQ, heck almost everyone we know loves Gas, the blissed out minimal ambient techno project of Mr. Wolfgang Voigt. But don't let the word 'techno' scare you off, as the music of Gas can easily win over the most ardent techno-phobes. The techno element in the sound of Gas is only a tiny part of Voigt's magical soundworld, often just a shadow, a distant heartbeat like pulse, sometimes more pronounced, but usually just a murky throb or a rhythmic murmur, the music of Gas is Gauzy and shimmery, blurred and softly buzzy, it's like an even more dreamlike Oval, or perhaps Porter Ricks crossed with Labradford, or Tim Hecker recording a record for Chain Reaction.

admrl, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

anyone know if the grungerman/wassermann versions of "fakeln im sturm" differ from each other in anyway?

anita bonghit (rionat), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Oh man, the first Gas album is so good. This is like my platonic ideal for wintery droney techno.

lolol ferrari (corey), Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

the Autechre mix of "Paroles" is a hoot

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

WolfgangLeaks

xp

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"Modern" currently playing over the sound of cars going by from the open window on this unusually warm night.

corey, Monday, 4 April 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

really good concert last night.....

Him & Jorg Burger played a special piece for the event.

It was filmed so hopefully it will be on the southbank / kompakt web site soon.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 4 April 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

best interview ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-bAvpEsIoM&feature=player_embedded#at=474

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 4 June 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

$5 for anyone who can say which Untitled is playing in the background

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Saturday, 4 June 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

That's awesome

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 4 June 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...
three months pass...

The four most recent 12''s on Protest - anyone have them? What are they like?

with hidden noise, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Mohn, the latest collaboration by Wolfgang Voigt and Jörg Burger, will release its first album in April.

Mohn's self-titled debut album has a style that is quintessentially Burger and Voigt, combining elements of ambient, krautrock and experimental techno. It will be their first album together since [Las Vegas], their 1996 effort under the name Burger/Ink.

Tracklist
01. Einrauschen
02. Schwarzer Schwan
03. Ambientot
04. Saturn
05. Seqtor 88
06. Das Feld
07. Ebertplatz 2020
08. Mohn
09. Wiegenlied

Kompakt will release Mohn on April 23rd, 2012.

jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD4OS-S0DNQ

jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

initially disappointed that there weren't any Roxy Music titles, but that sounds great!

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

there was a roxy title for their track on pop ambient 2012 :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20IKL17UvZQ

jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

I saw the debut Mohn performance in January! It was outstanding - the highlight of CTM festival. Psyched for the ablum.

The nIce Age (S-), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

It's great that WV is releasing more music these days, his productions were scarce during Kompakt's "golden age" or w/e

riding on a cloud (blank), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds exciting! IMO Jörg Burger is the better producer of the two, but Las Vegas did have an unique quality that isn't there in Burger's other work (he's more of romantic, compared to Voigt's formalism), so hopefully they can catch that again.

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

this album is fucking fantastic

ilxor, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

Mohn, that is

ilxor, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

It's nice, but where are the bloody beats?! I'm not saying it should be a dance record, but clearly it's not a pure ambient record either, so I think some good beats would've made it better. Also, while I liked "Ebertplatz 2020", I didn't expect the whole album to sound the same; everything is in the same, slowed down druggy tempo, it gets a bit boring after a while. Even though Las Vegas wasn't a dance album either, it had a good kinetic quality that this one is kinda lacking. It feels like Mike Ink's contribution to this was bigger than with Las Vegas (which doesn't sound that different from Jörg Burger's albums of the era, just more experimental), which isn't necessarily a good thing.

Tuomas, Friday, 4 May 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

combining elements of ambient, krautrock and experimental techno

this more or less sums it up, tho i question how meaningful "techno" is in this context. it's a darker record than Burger/Ink, but the same dubby dancefloor propulsion is there, it's just a couple of hours later and everybody's nodding asleep and the rhythm is a throb at the back of yr head

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link

like the rhythm is the halfway between motorik and dub and yr internal dj

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

TBH, I don't hear any Krautrock there, and I definitely think the lack of propulsion is the biggest problem with the album. (And I'm not necessarily saying there should be your regular drum machine sounds there, you can have propulsion without them too, as Pole has proven.) Take "Saturn", for example: you have a looping 303 riff and some cool housey strings, so for the first 2 or so minutes you expect the drums to kick in, but they never do... All you get is some free jazz percussion noodling, and as much as I love that kind of stuff in actual free jazz, it doesn't really make sense as the only drum sound in a track that's otherwise techno.

Tuomas, Friday, 4 May 2012 08:44 (eleven years ago) link

apart from maybe the first track this thing pulses along just like Burger/Ink imo but i'm aware we have apparently different ear alignment :p

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

ilxor otm, loving this

Crackle Box, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

<i>Rückverzauberung 6</i> is worth tracking down: it's not quite a return to Gas, but it's certainly a move in that direction, creepy ambience.

with hidden noise, Friday, 4 May 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

what's that from?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xEmq4Giyt0

willem, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

Fantastic video!

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

have you ever wanted to hear a version of ligeti's requiem kyrie created by a german person on a laptop if so rückverzauberung 6 is for you

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone heard Rückverzauberungs 3 & 4? Neither can be had on Discogs for less than $222.

with hidden noise, Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

I dl'd 3 a while back from somewhere, but it didn't sink in very much - will re-listen.

sleeve, Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

So this whole Erdingertrax thing is really good.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

and the new Voigt & Voigt? I need to hear this properly.

mmmm, Sunday, 17 February 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

Brothers Connected: an interview with Voigt & Voigt

Alma Mattar Paneer (doo dah), Thursday, 21 February 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

looking forward to new v&v. pulled out burger/ink 'las vegas' and it's been warming me up the last week or three.

andrew m., Thursday, 21 February 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

Okay, I've been digging into his many older pseudonymous works, and I'm really curious about the sampling for Love Inc.'s album "Life's A Gas". Obviously, the cover art includes a bunch of the albums he sampled, but I'm not sure what all of them are. Here's what I've got:

? - Tangerine Dream's Electronic Meditation - ? - In A Silent Way
? - Roxy Music's Avalon - ? - Kraftwerk's Ralf und Florian
? - BeeGees - ? - Marc Bolan?

I'm also curious about where he samples some of these things. Obviously, the title track samples Marc Bolan and Roxy Music. And the first track samples Kraftwerk. But what about "In A Silent Way"? I can't hear it anywhere. Anyone know?

Pataphysician, Sunday, 23 April 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link

I can't really answer that question, but oh man was that album a disappointment back in the day! After the awesome, banging house tracks here released under the Love Inc. name, we get an album where he loops some limp rock riffs and puts a beat under them? I still can't figure out what he intended to do there, it's all so lame-sounding.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 April 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link

Top row, #3: Hot Chocolate - Every 1's a Winner

A few others look familiar but they're not coming to mind right now.

obvious, Sunday, 23 April 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

Back cover of Ralf & Florian - Tangerine Dream's Electronic Meditation - Hot Chocolate's Everyone's a Winner - In A Silent Way
Back cover of Scritti Politti's Cupid & Psyche 85 - Roxy Music's Avalon - D.A.F.'s Für Immer - Kraftwerk's Ralf und Florian
? - BeeGees - ? - Marc Bolan

xpost

willem, Sunday, 23 April 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

I'm certain I've seen that lower-left one before, but I just can't place it. This is gonna bug me.

obvious, Sunday, 23 April 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

LOL for some reason Google Image Search guesses that the lower-left one is "hot chocolate everyone's a winner".

obvious, Sunday, 23 April 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I've seen the one next to the Marc Bolan album and it's by some jazz guitarist, but the name escapes me.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 April 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

so everyone doesn't have to go and search for the cover in a new tab:

http://i.imgur.com/wfjvccm.jpg

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 April 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

? - BeeGees - Miroslav Vitous - Magical Shepherd - Marc Bolan

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 April 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Klaus Schulze, Moondawn, inside the gatefold.

handy bowling (doo dah), Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

so saw him on sunday night at the barbican, absolutely loved it - the sound was tremendous
altho the literature at the venue described him as "the Gatsby of the groovebox" which has the be one of the worst things i've ever read in my life

nxd, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 08:43 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://kompakt.fm/releases/earquake_wolfgang_voigt_1991_1999 !

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link

I'm sure that's appealing to completists, but 303 euros for a 303 track USB stick comp is ridiculous! Also, while I do understand it doesn't include the EP he made for Warp nor the second and third Gas albums, as those are available elsewhere, it's a bit ridiculous that it doesn't include the first Gas album either, which hasn't been reissued in its original form (the Nah und Fern version having replaced two of its tracks with new ones), nor the handful of Gas tracks that appeared on Mille Plateaux compilations, which AFAIK have never been reissued anywhere.

The Love Inc. album seems to be missing from the comp too, but that's not such a big deal, as it's mostly bland and boring.

Since I already have a lot of his '90s material, I do appreciate that they sell each of those '90s releases separately too, but why aren't they available as FLACs?!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

woah

nxd, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

I love the "noble casket" translation of jewellery box.

A quick scroll through the MP3 download pricing suggests that it would cost you close to (or perhaps exactly the same as) the USB stick to download the lot as lossy files. Huh.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the prices for the USB and the invidual files are the same (1 euro per file for 303 tracks), but the files I guess are meant for people like me who already own a lot of this stuff and don't want to pay the ridiculous price for the whole package. If only they had them as FLACs I might actually buy a few of those.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

Also, the files on the USB are AIFFs, do they even work outside Apple machines? I'm pretty sure my Sony player attached to the stereo wouldn't recognise them.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

Most everything can play AIFF, I think. If I stuck that USB stick in my Marantz, it would play fine. What's your Sony player?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

Also, the files on the USB are AIFFs, do they even work outside Apple machines?

good lord

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

I just want the Mint stuff

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

Also, the files on the USB are AIFFs, do they even work outside Apple machines?

Sonos likes AIFFs, but there is no way i am paying that much for this stuff.

Sony was always awkward as they refused to accept the MP3 format for a long time, you had to convert the files into their own propiety format
before their digital music players would play anything.

mark e, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link


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