Chinese Democracy by Guns n Roses: classic or dud?

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Classic, obviously.

Higgs Bosom, Monday, 29 August 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, as long as it's never finished and remains a romantic myth.

But Dud, on the strength of the bits and pieces from it that have emerged on the Internet or have been played live.

JZ, Monday, 29 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

in 1995 i downloaded from napster 14 gnr tracks including "just another sunday" ,"life ain't no sentimental movie".are these on chinese democracy ?

peking duckboy, Monday, 29 August 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

In 1995, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

haha napster in 1995..

Ludo (Ludo), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

way to pwn, ned.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

the MS DOS version of napster

astroblaster (astroblaster), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the album will an absolute classic, but I'm getting fuckin' tired of waiting and getting doubtful that it will even come out. I think Axl is having some serious obssesive compulsive disorder thing going on and it's getting fuckin' stupid. He needs to go back on his meds

Tim Page, Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anybody save a link to the ILM thread discussing the ?New York Times? article about Chinese Democracy & Axl's apparent deterioration? I thought it was classic, but I can't find it by searching, which is dud-ish.

Thanks.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

chinese democracy = axl rose's caligula or eraserhead?

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Someone just told me that 8 more demo tracks were leaked, in addition to "I.R.S."

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

the fansites are abuzz with news that gnr management has served notice that they'll nail 'em if they post links to leaked tracks

meanwhile, "there was a time" sounds better & better to my ears

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

China getting democracy: classic or dud?

That will happen before the GNR disc comes out.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yes Brian, that joke is partly what the title means

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Guns N’ Roses are coming to Rock in Rio-Lisboa!
Tuesday, 21 February 2006
Axl Roses’ band will headline the 2nd day of the world’s biggest music event.
It’s confirmed: Guns n’ Roses are coming to Rock in Rio-Lisboa to headline the 2nd day, May 27th. And with this confirmation, all World Stage headliners are now known.


The Axl Rose led band is responding to the thousands of fans who asked the band to come through the official site of the event.

This promises to be another memorable day for all who will come to the Bela Vista Park and more in specific for all those who have been waiting for the day that Guns would come.

Guns n’ Roses was the most requested band by the official site users, amongst all bands, by all fans, whether Portuguese or international. It is expected that many international fans will travel to Lisbon to be there to hear the material on the new album ‘Chinese Democracy’ for the first time live.

In an interview with the American magazine Rolling Stone in January of this year, Axl Rose confirmed that this long awaited Guns n’ Roses album was ‘very complex’ and that it would be a surprise for all the fans.

Axl followed that by saying that he was ‘trying something different’ and that certain arrangements would be very different from what the fans were expecting and probably closer to the sound of Queen. ‘Better’, ‘There Was A Time’ and ‘The Blues’ are some of the titles of in total 26 new songs.

In 2001, the new version of Guns n’ Roses performed at the third edition of Rock in Rio. More than 200.000 fans witnessed the return of Guns n’ Roses, after 7 years away from the stage.

Axl Rose introduced the new band during a show of more than two hours, which was considered to be the best of the entire event. Today, 5 years later, the show of Guns n’ Roses at the City of Rock promises to be a historic one, both for Rock in Rio and for Portugal.

By: Paulo M. Guerrinha

Source: rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt

the bitchy guy in the pince-nez from the old films (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 February 2006 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

in 1995 i downloaded from napster 14 gnr tracks including "just another sunday" ,"life ain't no sentimental movie".are these on chinese democracy ?
-- peking duckboy (gun...), August 29th, 2005.
i got those 2 in 1996 but wish i got more.they were so bad quality they fit on a 1.44 disk.
should i leak them ?
should i put them on rapidshare ?

retrogurl, Thursday, 23 February 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i have those -- as you said, they've been in circulation for a really long time. i bought them off some dude at a show in 1991.

the bitchy guy in the pince-nez from the old films (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, "bought" (but for a pittance, mind you)

the bitchy guy in the pince-nez from the old films (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i burned those MP3s to a cassette tape with my TRS-80...I think i still have it around somewhere.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it the same material that was on those DATs that were circulating on Prodigy in 1992?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

the prodigy sarah records/shoegazing board, i miss those days.

keyth (keyth), Friday, 24 February 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link

As JZ said, classic as long as it remains a myth.

When released, I am sure it will become dud, like the rest of their output.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

This is actually a pretty good album if you can forget that it's supposed to be Guns N' Roses. Some of the guitar solos are phenomenal.

"Overproduced" is an understatement, but there are good songs underneath the expensive sheen.

And I'm still hoping for a REAL Guns N' Roses reunion. They say it'll never happen, but surely Axl will run out of money at some point. I would gladly pay an ungodly sum to see the original band.

TetrisAttack, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Duff rejoins for five dates in south America, takes over much of the lead vocal on "it's so easy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC8lwtS5wx4

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 19 April 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

God, I hadn't realized Axl can barely walk and sing at the same time anymore.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 April 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link

highlight of the tour so far has been this incredible performance by DJ Ashba (and the reaction of Axl)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4cPN45Kzi8#t=347

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 19 April 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

I think I'm going down a then-and-now rabbit hole pretty bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmvyWszkn1Y

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 19 April 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Axl and Slash are talking

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 22 August 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I've just read about this... seems that hell has indeed frozen over!

I love how this is news.

This must be the germ of a plan to make some serious bank. Else they will show themselves to be even bigger morons than everyone already suspects.

obstacle illusion (calstars), Sunday, 23 August 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

something so sad about the last ten years of gnr to me. not "wasted potential" sad but like a motorboat on an enormous lake with nobody in it and only one cylinder firing and an infinite supply of fuel and all the other boats are on a lake two counties over

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 23 August 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

Axl is sad in a sort of beautiful decadent rockstar way, Slash playing Sweet Child O'Mine with Fergie was just embarrassing

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 24 August 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

hey next year is the 25th anniversary of 'black or white' AND use your illusion sooo

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

there'll be chinese in democracy by the time runs and goses gets b.....

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 24 August 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link

Slash playing Sweet Child O'Mine with Fergie was just embarrassing

Slash and Paulina Rubio, on the other hand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqisMsT70TI

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 24 August 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link

Axl is sad in a sort of beautiful decadent rockstar way

yeah - his total disengagement, how even when he's playing a show he's hardly there - he went directly from youth to Norma Desmond but with this "I still leave the house sometimes" twist

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 24 August 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I'm a convert to "This I Love" and "Better" after hearing both live, though I still say this shouldn't be branded GNR.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 July 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

still it was an incredible moment for the former, he was shrieking the high notes with a lot of power. actually surprised in general how in good voice he was.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 July 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link


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