Well I recently got an 80's compilation that had a track called "High Energy" by some soul diva called Evelyn Thomas. But the problem was the electronic backing track rather obviously ripped off Frankie Goes To Hollywood. Or...did they rip her off? I can't be sure. Anyway so I decided I had to have "Welcome To The Pleasure Dome" again, this time on more convenient CD format rather than clumsy double album vinyl. Some of this album I haven't heard since I was 13 years old or thereabouts. Then as now, it's not perfect, but does have its highlights.
The thing I remember most about it is the hype that had built up around it before it came out. So by the time you got it you were greeted with this sprawling, pretentious and insanely diverse double album, hard to come to grips with, and not all great, but you know I think the title track alone is worth the price of a $13 CD.
All told it was perhaps not one of the more important records of my lifetime, but still a very fun ride to experience again indeed.
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.zxscreens.i12.com/zxscreens/frankie_goes_to_hollywood_inlay.gif
Hyped it was, but it's pretty damn great. Like yourself I was 13 or 14 the first time around. Hadn't listened to it since then, but I dug it out again a year or so ago. Whew, I think it sounds even better now than it did then. Classic!
Wasn't it a big Christmas album as well? I remember it being pushed relentlessly in Woolworth's Xmas ads that year.
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link
And!! The Two Tribes video!
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Young pop fans across the nation on Christmas morning: "WTF?"
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link
'Power of Love' is coming up, I can't wait to hear it. That was a favourite of mine also.
This is a really great album!
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 10 December 2005 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 10 December 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
...I did say I'd keep it, right? :-P
― Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 10 December 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Mzui, you're back! So um about a certain CDR project... ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
What an Xmas gift this will be! (I have Dr. C's address if you need it.)
Back to the subject at hand -- I am actually interested in this album in the light of Simon R.'s use of it and Frankie as the end-point of Rip It Up and Start Again. As he sees it, it was the conclusion of 'post-punk/new pop' in terms of The Future -- "On one level, you could see Frankie as punk's last blast. But on another deeper, structural level, Frankie were a taste of pop things to come -- the return of the boy band. Perhaps that accounts for the curious hollowness, even at the height of Frankiemania, to the phenomenon."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Incidentally, one of the main problems w/ the record is the degree to which it pales in comparison to the singles. In particular, the Fruitness Mix of the title track is just outstanding.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 10 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― corey c (shock of daylight), Thursday, 22 December 2005 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link
never heard any of the modern remixes - are any of them any good or is it a case of stick with the 80's 12" and avoid the new ones ?
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Agreed. They've done those Twelve-Inches (har) sets, but a box would be fun. Plus, the Act set is outstanding...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
pretty much the biggest british band in terms of singles sales and press fuss between the fabs and the gallaghers. good on em. well 'ard. etc.
― piscesboy, Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Too lazy to do that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyone remember the backlash T-shirts, the ones that read "UP YOURS FRANKIE"?
― Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shooz (shooz), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Please tell me Paul Morley was behind them.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of The Haunted House (Bimble...), Saturday, 24 December 2005 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Still I don't remember their second album being very good at all. A shame.
― Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of The Haunted House (Bimble...), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link
iYet Another Redundant "Double LPs" Thread...but with a fairly interesting variation
As for the MUSIC, I wish they'd included the (superior) alternate mix of "Two Tribes" - the version that was used in the video. That GREBT video with the death-match between Ronald Reagan and Konstantin Chernenko (look him up, youngsters.) But inferior or not, it's still the LPs high point, if you ask me.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 24 December 2005 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 24 December 2005 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
I didn't say *Howe* plotzed, more like what stereotypical Yes fans might have thought of it. Dare I say.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
The song structures on "...Pleasure Dome" are pretty much traditional all the way. The title track may last for 13 minutes, but other than the intro and outro, it keeps to the same mood and groove throughout, with none of the mood changes and dymanic changes that are typical of prog.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link
A second CD as proposed above might be the greatest CD ever made, come to think of it...
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link
There was a recent upgrade of the original CD, with proper cover and inserts, but no 2CD package as such (at least not in the UK).
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"we get buzzed off the fact that warhol's heard of us, because he got buzzed off the fact that picasso had heard of him"
BANG!
― pisces, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
That bassline on 'Wish The Lads Were Here'!
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Friday, 20 June 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
timely revival.
anyone tempted by the new boxset ?
as much as i love the whole excess of ztt, i have to admit that this boxset does nothing for me.
which is a massive letdown as i really wanted the definitive FGTH boxset of this album.
i.e. remastered version. multiple cds of all the commercially available remixes/b-sides. cd of extras.
+ big f*ck off print of the original inner sleeve artwork ...
but hey ..
― mark e, Friday, 20 June 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
am totally down with the big print idea
― piscesx, Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
I want the new box but the pledgemusic pages says not available to US backers
― Edward Bax, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
boo ..
knowing ztt there will be probably be a usa exclusive edition with a very subtle difference ..
― mark e, Saturday, 21 June 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
I've been listening to this album a fair amount over the last couple of days after the recent Frankie singles poll, and it's been really hitting the spot for me. However, I'm thinking that the tracklisting on the original CD issue is superior to the vinyl version: the first CD issue replaces the album version of 'Two Tribes' with the Annihilation mix (even though it keeps the 'For The Victims of Ravishment' title) and merges it with 'The Last Voice' and gets rid of the section with Chris Barrie doing the "Prince Charles talking about orgasms" bit, and it replaces 'Ferry (Go)' and 'San Joe (The Way)' (which I've never liked) and replaces them with the far superior 'Happy Hi!' ... Side One and Side Four are basically represented in the same way on the original CD.
― Turrican, Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
So what's the definitive version of this album? I swear, this band has like 60 billion different versions of every goddamn thing they released.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link
Just picked up the 2CD 25th anniversary remaster of this, having never listened to it before. Phew!
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 08:03 (seven years ago) link