Rolling Country 2006 Thread

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OK, I want FRANK to listen to this one and figure it out. Are you out there, Frank? Three harmonizing Christian sisters who seem to want to look like the Dixie Chicks, all majoring in music at the University of Arizona, none of whom EVER seem to smile in any of their pictures. The first SEVEN (out of ten) songs on their album, including their uncharacteristically (at least comparatively) upbeat cover of "Ticket to Ride", all seem to be breakup songs. The first few, especially, strike me as very very dark, not to mention souped up with tons of Jim Steinman doing Bonnie Tyler melodrama. Opener "You're All I See" is the most over-the-top bombastic of all, but the close triple harmonies in it (is this a classical-training thing? a puritan Protestant church choir thing?) come off to me almost like some *Saturday Night Live* EZ-listening skit making fun of middle-aged ladies and their square square music, and its words are about going insane and feeling like you're locked in a cage in the heat of the desert, and after a stab at Spanish guitars, at the end the harmonies climb toward an almost operatic climax. Second song, right off the bat, concerns a disabled person and a suicide, so even darker, and though angels save the day they don't make the song any more cheerful. Next few songs are almost as dour, though "Marble Rain" seems to have a little bit of Stylistics or something in its melody, and the mood picks up a little for "Ticket to Ride" then the quite poppy "Between the Lines," which are still breakup songs nonetheless as far as I can tell, so by then you're wondering if they all broke up with the same guy (Jesus, maybe??); either way, they've got issues and they seem to want us to know it. Finally track 8 "Arizona Sunsets" is about finding an escape from climbing the ladder of success to the glass ceiling (they actually say "ceiling"), and the album closest with its funkiest track, a cover of Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called to Say I Love You" which, like the Beatles cover, is forgettable but not bad. Their cdbaby page seems to suggest they self-identify as country (where else would they find an audience these days?), but I honestly don't hear much country here. And I honestly don't LIKE it much, but I'm still kind of in awe -- especially of that first song, which strikes me as fairly ridiculous, but also fully audacious in a way that I may not quite be getting.

xhuck, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops, Arizona State Universiry not "U of A" (does anybody call it that?)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

and ok, on their actual website, they do smile sometimes. but the photos where they really look sad or pissed-off definitely get priority.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

the four new songs on tim mcgraw's *greatest hits vol. 2* seem okay, but not great. the ryan adams cover, "when the stars go blue," is probably my favorite of the bunch; it's really pretty, and i'm guessing tim (who i bet sings it better than ryan does, but i don't remember ever hearing ryan's version so who knows?) likes the song for same reason he liked "tiny dancer," whatever that is. "my little girl" hits my heart a little since i'm the dad of a daughter big deal, but it's another one of those dorky songs that will piss frank off since it rests on the assumption that tim's daughter will definitely want to grow up to get married, and to a (gag) "man's man" no less. "i've got friends that do" is do-gooder "i'm not a junkie or in prison or poor or jesus but i can sort of empathize with them a little so i won't judge them" sap, slightly soft-rocked, who cares. "beautiful people" (as in here is the church and here is the steeple open the doors etc etc etc) is neglible (though better than the marilyn manson version.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

>You're All I See"... words are about going insane and feeling like you're locked in a cage in the heat of the desert<

..'cause you're haunted by the memory of the dude you just broke up with, and no matter what you do you can't shake the obsession (i meant to say.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

the most over-the-top bombastic of all, but the close triple harmonies in it (is this a classical-training thing? a puritan Protestant church choir thing?)

Sounds to me like an Auto-Tune thing. It's kinda hard to tell though over the net, but the harmonies have that flattened out quality. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I guess, but I'm not sure it's so good either. I like the version of "Ticket to Ride" though.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's interesting how the country audience has moved from being primarily poor, rural, whites, to largely urban grups.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

[MOD NOTE -- the below is not an actual quote from sara evans, but a tasteless parody.] "We know your husbands are dead, but here's a song to help you widows
remember the good times, when they would get home from work and you would make dirty love with them till it was time for 'em to get up and go to work again. You
did all do that, right?" -- Sara Evans dedicating "Coalmine" to an audience in West Virginia

Her intentions are admirable, but the sign outside her mind reads Vacancy.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops, that was my bad. Sara didn't say that. It was a parody, and my mind is vacant enough tonight that I didn't get the satire. Anybody know how to get in touch with a mod to have them delete that post?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

>There is a female country singer named "Bomshel" (as in bombshell, apparently) who has a debut album coming out on Curb this year<

..and her single "country music love song" just entered the country chart at #59. (i got 2 billboards in the mail in the 2 days! hot apple pie as lionel now up to 54, carrie underwear i mean underwood keying cars up to 57, milsap down to 60). but i want to hear bomshel!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i havent heard coalmine yet, i need to hear more chart, go thru the chart again.

god is nashville star boring

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

So not that anybody cares, but the context for my faux pas above is the following press release, which is genuine:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

April 4, 2006

SARA EVANS AND WRITERS OF NEW SINGLE “COALMINE” BAND TOGETHER WITH RECORD
LABEL AND PUBLISHERS TO AID WEST VIRGINIA FAMILIES

April 4, 2006 -- Multi-platinum country superstar Sara Evans has joined
forces with her record label, RCA Records; writers Ron Harbin, Richie McDonald and
Roxie Dean; and publishers Harbinism.com Music, Sony/ATV Music Publishing and
Zomba Music Publishing to donate a portion of the proceeds from with her new
single “Coalmine” to a life needs/education fund for the families of the Sego
mine disaster in West Virginia.

Evans, currently on tour with label mate Brad Paisley, recently performed in
Morgantown, WV where they invited the families of the Sego mine disaster to
attend a special reception followed by the concert. Having spent time with
these families, Evans was moved by their strength and decided that she wanted to
find a way to contribute.

"It is truly a blessing that because of this song, so many different people
are able to come together to contribute to these families who have been through
so much," said Sara Evans.

The songwriters of “Coalmine,” Ron Harbin, Richie McDonald and Roxie Dean,
were also watching and reading about the Sego disaster and began to look for a
way to help out. Upon hearing that “Coalmine” would be the next single from
Evans’ album Real Fine Place, they contacted Evans’ management and record
label stating that they would like to donate a portion of the proceeds from this
record to the West Virginia families. RCA Records, Harbinism.com Music,
Sony/ATV Music Publishing and Zomba Music Publishing, a division of BMG Music
Publishing, were immediately on board to contribute as well.

“Ron, Roxie and I were saddened as we watched the news in West Virginia
unfold,” commented Richie McDonald. “When our song was chosen as the next single
for Sara Evans, we immediately knew that this was our chance to help make a
difference for these families who have been through so much.”

Working with West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin’s office, a foundation was
identified that will help the families with everyday needs as well as lend
assistance with their children’s education. Anyone who would like to make a
personal contribution can do so by purchasing a commercial digital download of
“Coalmine” available at iTunes, Walmart Digital Downloads, Napster, Real/Rhapsody,
MusicMatch, Microsoft, SonyConnect and Y! Music. A portion of the proceeds
from all digital downloads will contribute to the fund.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

tim mcgraw sounds like a robot singing "stars go blue" -- no surprise considering the amount of reverb and effects applied to his vocals. adams' voice was very pretty-boy on the original. i think julianna raye sang harmonies on it, it was delicious.

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

is there a weird disney pinochio ref in the first lines of that song? and i really like it, i just dont know why

anthony, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to get the new Toby album. In the mean time, I'll keep listening to this new James Hunter record on Rounder. I don't think I've ever heard this guy before, though I guess he's been around since the '80s. British neo-Sun r&b guy, voice like Charlie Rich, some flash-it-back-and-hold-it guitar slinging, rockabilly and ska and Hoodoo Man Blues rhythms, and a lot of really good songs, all originals I think.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

james hunter puts on a good show.

anthony, are you refering to the wooden shoes bit?

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

from rolling metal:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lucasmccain

Lucas McCain, *New Horizon,* yet another excellent cdbaby Southern rock/country-metal album (from Georgia this time) nobody's gonna care about but me and George, though others should. 2006 copyright, too! Anyway, a brief rundown: "New Horizon" (Skynyrdesque gimme-three-steps boogie woogie, they totally know how to dance), "Long Hot Summer Night" (Mellencamp/Adams '80s-style words, riff somewhere between "Run to You" and "Money for Nothing" but heavier + more boogiefied), Home On their Minds" (lament honoring the troops, hoping for peace in a strange land with death all around them), "Gimme Some of That" (funky rock namedropping Bocephus and Skynyrd and saying no-sell-out and we miss that old time rock and roll it's the music that saves our soul), "One Bad Love (Don't Make It Bad)" (divorce lament suggesting, no kidding, John Conlee leading the Marshall Tucker Band), "Does Anybody Care" (gutbust lament where the vocal verges into Eddie Vedder territory though that's just 'cause, as I believe Frank Kogan observed in *Radio On* many years ago, Vedder sang like David Clayton-Thomas; beautiful twin-guitar ending), "Concrete Cowboy" (Charlie Daniels doing "Legend of Wooley Swamp"-style rapneck), "Working on Tomorrow" (riff recalling Eddie Money's "I Think I'm in Love" only heavier.) And there's a couple other songs too (and many other lovely guitar parts).

I also love that they've opened for both Mother's Finest and the Kentucky Headhunters, that's very cool.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

speaking of bocephus, he is now on the country singles chart at #44, with a song called "that's how we do it in dixie" in which he is allegedly (i haven't heard it) joined by gretchen wilson, van zant, and big & rich, the latter pair of whom scored with a big hit single last year protesting physical assaults of the womenfolk. hmmmm:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0404061_hank_williams_1.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting Kelefa review in the *Times* this morning of the new Toby Keith album. He likes it, but as frustratingly seems increasingly to be the case with the Kelefa, he seems to be reviewing the lyric sheet much more than the music. A shame, since the music on this one is what makes it great, I think; I wonder of Kelefa has noticed how *different* for Toby it sounds. He does catch some things I didn't, though -- for instance, that the thing with a big bow tied around it in Toby's new birthday song might be part of Toby's body...Anyway, as I said before, that's supposed to be one of Toby's "bus songs"; i.e., they're songs that his band sings on the bus, not meant for the radio. Just for fun, or whatever. Which obviously is something Toby uses as a trap door -- if you're not amused by, say, the song about sexing up the fat girl, you're just taking it too seriously. He doesn't put these on every album -- I'd have to go back and check, but I recall that he definitely did it on *Shock 'n' Y'all,*, with the "Ahab the Arab"-style song from the point of view of the Middle Eastern guy fleeing the Taliban and the one about smoking dope with Willie. Toby pretends these aren't part of the "real" album, though of course they really ARE (just like all so-called CD "bonus tracks" these days). So he can get away with stuff he otherwise couldn't, novelties and stuff. Not surprisingly, they're frequently among his more lively tracks.

Australian Angel City fan Leanne Kingwell's "More" (not nearly one of her most rocking songs, but still) is allegedly getting played on terrestrial country stations in Stillwater, OK (KGFY) and Sheridan, WY (KYTI), not to mention Internet stations LexCountry out of Lexington KY and USA Radio Country out of Eagle, ID. I mentioned her cdbaby album, which I love, on the metal and teen-pop threads, but oddly did not think to mention it here. So I'm gonna cut and paste in a sec.

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

here goes:

so, stop the presses, this album from australia is what avril and kelly (and uh, maybe even ashlee and skye and hope) *should* sound like. which is to say, like the first-album divinyls except less arty and more consistently catchy and funny and sexy, often (in "you stink" and the great and hilarious and furious cheated-on-revenge single "holding your gun" for instance) doing a fast mott the hoople (or angel city?) boogie-woogie hard rock under thick guitar buzz. the *gun* EP threw me at first because it opens with leanne kingwell (that's her name, remember it) doing two power ballads (one of them apparently a cover, since it's credited to john watts and the lyrics aren't in the lyric booklet of the album) with prim and proper aussie pronunciation like for instance pronouncing "france" "frontz", but in the course of the album (now called *show ya what,* which seems to be mostly a reissue of the 2005 album that's up on cdbaby, with "holding your gun" replacing "back to me" and the track order shuffled) the ballads make way more sense, partially by being less plentiful...and okay, i also just noticed that the track "be with you" is credited to brewster/brewster/neeson, which means i was RIGHT about the angel city comparison. "blind" is credited to one james stewart; the rest are kingwell herself. "drop your pants" starts out like "hey little girl" by the syndicate of sound (which the divinyls covered), then gets tougher and thicker, like the sonics, but the effect isn't '60s garage rock nostalgia at all, probably because leann's vocals (basically, she sings a lot like christina amphlett at her most rocking) are the most powerful element in the mix. and also maybe as a tribute to christina, in "my hero" she touches herself. with her vibrator. which is better than you. predicton (probably premature, but who cares, what else is new with me): *show ya what* could wind up being one of the best albums of 2006; "holding your gun" might be one of the best singles.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/kingwell

http://cdbaby.com/cd/kingwell2

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 28th, 2006.

okay, didn't notice these; she's even cooler than i thought:

>"I saw The Angels gig at the Palace in 2000 and it absolutely knocked me out. I was one of a dozen girls in a room of about 1500 guys who just went off and knew the words to every song. That gig got me thinking about how to create some kick arse rock n' roll that girls would dig as much as guys."<

>A four track EP featuring a cover of Fischer Z's 1980 smash "So Long" plus 2 originals.<

and yeah (as reviews on those pages say) i definitely hear the easybeats and suzi quatro in there, too.

-- xhuxkx (xedd...), March 28th, 2006.

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Or uh (listening to Toby again), maybe the reason Kelefa didn't talk about the music being such a departure is because the music is NOT as much of a departure as I suggest above? I dunno. Now all the parts that *aren't* more soul or jazz than Toby's been before are jumping out at me (and, to be honest, it's not like even the jazziness, where it exists, is entirely new; he did that on *Shock n Y'all* some too, as I recall.) Still loving a lot of it, though "Ain't No Right Way" is offending me as much for the soggy-dish-rag-ness of its sound as the soggy-dish-rag-ness of its politics now. "Runnin' Block," the song about the chubby girl, is actually about playing the wing man for a buddy, still not sure what I think of it overall beyond its moral assholitude, but I actually really like the sound of its chorus, which reminds of something from the '70s and which always confuses me into thinking it's about football (which maybe it is, sort of). Something in its jazzy storytelling also somehow brings to mind Tom T Hall, and I think there are other moments on here when I think of Hall too. (He could be as jazzy as Merle, actually--and in a Dixieland minstrel way. Also as good natured as any songwriter ever; no wonder Jimmy Carter was his pal. Though his sense of ethics clearly put Toby's to shame.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

> He doesn't put these on every album -- I'd have to go back and check<

On the cover the new CD the last three songs are called "Bus Songs Session #2," so yeah, I guess this is the only time he's done it besides *Shock N Y'all.* And I meant to steal Frank's "escape hatch" metaphor in regards to these, not his "trap door" metaphor. Though I guess it's more honest than coming up with an entirely different alter ego, like David Allan Coe and Clarence Reid have done. (Not that Toby has ever done anything approaching the outrageousness of those guys' sideline stuff.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

the wooden shoes, and isnt their a song on the pinnocho soundtrack that features blue stars?

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

did anyone hear the tim mcgraw special yesterday?

an unrelated amusing anecdote
hes also working w. bochephus, and lives in the old hank/audery home--which apparently is civil war old, so hank jr and tim mcgraw try to figure out which bullet holes are "civl war or hank/audrey war'

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

if i remember correctly, there's a blue fairy pinnochio's tale, but no blue stars.

don -- cute lil ashley monroe came into the office yesterday. has the sharp nuance of dolly. she's 19 and i really wanted to hate her but could not.

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

#61) Cledus T. Judd parody of Three-6 Maffia's current hit, on how soul food is an excellent fiber source: "Ever Since I Could Remember I Been Poopin' my Collards." Okay, I just made that one up. Sorry.

WHY OH WHY CAN'T THIS BE TRUE.

random thoughts/questions:

Saw Sara Evans on the CMT countdown show talking about meeting with the miners' wives and it was pretty vacant. Why is she such a terrible judge of her own music lately? I want "Bible Song" and "New Hometown" as singles.

I just listened to the new Shooter Jennings for the first time and thought it sounded pretty terrible. Do I need to give it another chance or can I safely file it away?

I weep at my inability to keep up with this thread.

(And M@tt -- you know I was country when country wasn't cool!)

chris herrington (chris herrington), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I, too, would like more info on the Shooter Jennings album please. I haven't heard any of it. (Xhuxk, what says you?)

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"Electric Rodeo," first song on the Shooter Jennings, bluesy rock about travelin' on the road. "All I know is the guitar and the bottle." Disappointing actually, not because there's anything inherently wrong with it but because there's absolutely no surprise in it. As it goes on the song seems to kick harder for me, though maybe that's owing to my absorbing its kick.

Je4nn3, I wish you'd visit the teenpop thread more often.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay Frank! I will. (I like the new Aly & AJ song kind of a lot.)

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Ashley Monroe "I Don't Wanna Be," first track on her album Satisfied. Strong vibrant accent, maybe Kentucky or Tennessee (not that I know shit about accents.) The voice is strong, the slide guitar is strong. The lyrics are a bit incongruous in relation to the voice: a woman without a man telling us that for all the time men can be disappointing and fail to mow the lawn or take out the garbage, she'd rather be with a man than be without. My one-song first impression is that this woman could be due Lee Ann Womack–size respect, though I'd like more interesting lyrics.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i really love the new jesse colter

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the title song and opening track of Electric Rodeo is an unnec followup to the title song and opening track of Put The O Back In Country (although that un has a beat that's even goofier and much more likable than its point, about how he's gonna dare to rock and otherwise re-pallusize the c word; good thing nobody tried to play him any Montgomery G, although he's smiled on Van Zant, and in fact refuses to criticize anybody specifically, inlc. his buddies Rascal Flatts--which may mean he's pretty close to admitting he's jiving, and/or is a liberal as well as potsmoker! In any case, though says wants to make music for "young people" instead of "adult women," at least insofar as latter are dominatrix audience of current c*y--also says his very Adult woman girlfriend, Drea Di Matteo, late of The Sopranos, is the one who prevailed on him to name the album that!) But he's not really that macho, nor trying to be, and the rest of the album is an improvement over the first. Both have good songs, but he's really learned something about transitions within and between tracks. As for the former, was thinking "Bad Magick" wasn't slammin' me like intended, but then got me its wake, a wicked undertow (listen on headphones). The good version of my impending CharLoaf feature on Shooter (and what he might've learned from working with Jessi, and listening to the way she put her album together) will be on the blog, eventually. I really wanna hear Kingwell, really don't wanna hear Kidwells please xxxus. Xhuxx, "Tiny Dancer" is what the busload of penitent rockers start singing in Cameron Crowe's movie about his apprenticeship with Lester Bangs: it's uneasy like Sunday morning, so they're all,"Hold me clooser, Tiny Da-ah-an-cah," Elton, you know, but the way they sing in it, and in that context, in the trailer, has forever kept me from seeing that movie, even though the excellent Philip Seymour Hoffman plays Bangs, before he played Capote (now there's a good movie). Katie, preparing to listen to Ashley's album now,,,

don, Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

>more info on the Shooter Jennings album please. (Xhuxk, what says you?)<

I like it! See waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay upthread, like around January 16. I need to pull the thing back out though. The songs about hangovers and sniffing cocaine are best I think.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

So this morning I'm thinking about "My Town" by Montgomery Gentry: "Sunday morning service at the Church of Christ," that's what they say, right? I wonder how intentional the denomination was, or if they just thought it sounded good. Because the Church of Christ, as I understand (or maybe misunderstand) it, is actually a fairly mainline Protestant denomination, nothing like all those creepy conservative fundamentalist Pentecostal ones. And the UNITED Church of Christ is supposedly extremely liberal (a piece on the Time's Nation page this morning reminded me of this), opening its doors to gays, etc. (Not sure if United C of C is connected to Regular C of C or not, though.)

xhxuk, Friday, 7 April 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link

chuck what say you of ashley?

the lyrics weren't cringe-worthy but they did make me tilt my head into the upright and locked "huh" position considering she's 19 and she did the majority of the writing for this album when she was 17 (and sometimes younger). i guess that's a popular ageist complaint, but at the same time its hard for me to invest in her sincerity in lovers lost, etc. when she's my lil cousin's age. and i'm a dour old lady at the age of 24!

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

>chuck what say you of ashley?<

first impression (i.e., two and a half songs in to her album)? she sounds kinda slow and lacks bounce, and i'd take many of the unknown cdbaby acts on this thread over her easy. also, i think it's rather odd that she says desperate housewives both complain about their husbands no longer mowing lawn AND that the grass is always greener on the other side. this implies that lawnmowing increases green-ness, which is certainly not always the case. (my opinion may well change, though.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

album seems to finally wake up a little from its torpor toward the three-quarters mark (i.e., track #8, the song where the guy's calling her from san jose or whatever's happening -- though the one after that, where she does the eddie rabbit talking blues things and gets wacky like a shania for ONE WHOLE SECOND, isn't really working for me despite being not slow, maybe not even midtempo), but I gotta say there's something tastefully teacher's pettish about ashley that's bugging me. she's hitting me like a nostalgia act, and not in a very fun way. she needs leann womack's producer or something (unless she already has her; I didn't check). I dunno, probably she'll click eventually, that's how these things work. Right now, though, she's honestly having trouble holding my attention. (But yeah, I can imagine the Good Taste Brigade loving her. Which is maybe why I'm resisting.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

On my way to Ashley, sidetracked by Black Sage. They remind me of a countrypoprocking Wide Right: robustly uncommon "everyday people." Also like WR in seeming at first to veer from sparse to spare, but turn up the bass. So far, Leah Archibald grabs me a bit more, because she's confrontational like that (re sex and death, for inst, but Black Sage's Kathy deals with those too)thx xhuxx

don, Friday, 7 April 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, Ashley: funny how Black Sage, those lovable locals, pick up the tempo, while the Nashville tracks don't know how to sustain initial interest--so many ballads, so much time. The neediness sounds convincing enough. Reading the bio after listening, re what "she still sees as an idyllic life," before her father suddenly died when she was 11 ("often the age of puberty for today's youth", says Dr Joyce Brothers), and how her family went "into freefall" after that, and "with few friends among often callous classmates," how she could look so hungrily at taken-for-granted, supposedly sweet deals of ungrateful married women. And covering Kasey Chambers' "Pony," with come-hither-when-I'm-legal drawlpretty much to the tune of Peggy Lee's "Fever"), before stalking the guy (who has a grown woman, way ahead of her)to verses that sound like Neil's "Old Man," before reaching out, falling short, trailing with a few more notes anyway, in "Satisfied."(But in between she's still sounding young and damaged, she's been "Used, passed around")Then she does find a guy! Who's as little ol' as she is, and "That's Why We Call Each Other Baby," goo-goo--but he's--Dwight Yoakam, old, bald, and a dirt sandwich (this last according to Sharon Stone). Oh man. Lucinda's "It's Over" is faster, but needs some false stops or something to go with it's thing about she can't let go. Not enough titles provided so far, but there's one that is faster and works like that should: a Terri Clark-type blowing up her self-image of poor poor pitiful me like Harry Smith's headlines, til it's lying in the street, underneath a white sheet (do a video of that). And she's in the back of "Hank's Cadillac," making him drink his coffee black, cos you just gotta make that next show, be fair to the folks, but it's not working, she's clutching his little skinny carcass to her bosom, and--oh god,maybe this thing will brainwash me, but right now it's dropping most of these High Concepts. At least "Hank's Cadillac" has some narrative. The one that sounds like it's intended to be the followup to "Satisfied" makes the usual sargasso seizure irrelevent, cos (as with "Satisfied") the chorus sounds so nice, I don't need to go anywhere else.

don, Friday, 7 April 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

And speaking of so much time, it ain't out til June 27. So maybe it will brainwash me by then.(Thaat's why Country Majors release things so slowwly, now I get it...)

don, Friday, 7 April 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

george from metal thread:

Leanne Kingwell's Show Ya What: Boogie woogie rock and roll, with brassy chick, right away for fans of the Blackhearts, the early Kim Fowley jailbait and guitars sound. Squealing and tuneful lead guitar, rupture your liver in the middle class bar while dancing to the hooks. She's holding a gun, her cheatin' boyfriend's, get outta here with that other wench's lipstick on yer collar. You taught me how to use it, she sez, and I'm keeping it.
Also seems to have something to do sonically with Kings of the Sun and the personal vocal style of Angel City's Doc Neeson. (Or the Angels as she'd call them.)
Oh boy, now there's a great pumping roadhouse organ -- or old timey skate rink -- on "Be With You." Lots of crunch on the guitars and bass.
Tommy James-style "Crimson & Clover" tremolo on "So Long." Boy, along with the old Conwell CDs, a history book of classic radio ready guitar licks and roughed-up and dirty pop rock singing.
-- George 'the Animal' Steele (georg...), April 7th, 2006.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

and frank (who *did* make a country connection) from teenpop thread:

o far I'm liking but not loving Leanne Kingwell. For some reason the name that pops into my head when listening to her isn't any of the teenpoppers or the Divinyls or Suzi Quatro etc. (though I'm not saying the latter too aren't relevant) but Shooter Jennings; the same almost-nothing of a vocal-cord digging into itself and managing to scoop out a voice for itself.
Not that a cross between Shooter and Lindsay wouldn't be worth something...
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), March 30th, 2006.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

My favorite songs on Toby Keith's *White Trash With Money* this morning, oops I mean afternoon (I got up late): "Get Drunk and Be Somebody," "Little Too Late," "Note to Self," and, gulp, "Running Block." I give in. The middle two are slow ones, interestingly enough.

Current album that makes most sense in a CD changer along with *White Trash With Money*: Dean Martin's 1955 *Swingin' Down Yonder,* reissued this month by Collector's Choice. I've never gotten into Dino much -- "That's Amore," "Volare," that's about it. And I've never thought much about him being connected to country music, though obviously Elvis (and Jerry Lee maybe?) considered him a huge influence. But this album (only the second one by him listed chronoligically at AMG, so I would assume one of his first?) is all songs about the South* -- about the Carolinas, and Georgia, and New Orleans, and Basin Street, and the Robert E. Lee and so on, some dating back to the 20s or even 10s (really informative liner notes by James Ritz), and it sounds like he's picking up on what Hoagy Carmichael (I guess - -somebody correct my chronology if I'm way off) picked up from Al Jolson or whoever. (I'm sure I'm missing several important intermediate steps along the way, and would be curious to know what they are.) Anyway, the minstrelized (I guess) yet smoothed out Dixieland-pop sound here isn't far from the jazz the shows up on Toby's new album (and that Merle and Tom T touched on before.) It totally swings, and Dino's signing makes it sound warm and good-humored, even if, obviously, a lot of the lyrics are probably (though maybe not explicitly, as far as I've noticed so far) nostalgia for the good old days of the old plantation south before the War. Anybody else have thoughts on this? And what does it mean that it's still part of country's defintion of soulfulness in 2006?

* -actually looks like there are also four bonus tracks on the CD reissue, *not* about the South. One's abotu Paris! I'ld think that might compromise the concept, but maybe not.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

johnny berry and the outliers, *fegenbush farm*: neo-honky tonky retro country featuring one johnny cash cover, "mean eyed cat." don't hate it, don't like it. bleh. resembles junor brown with everything fun and interesting taken out. also makes me think even higher of dale watson, in that it proves pulling off this kinda stuff isn't as easy as it might seem.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

xhuxk say:
Calexico, *Garden Ruin*: Wow, dullsville. What happened to the desert (the Tex-Mex and the good and the bad and the ugly) in these guys' sound? I like *Feast of Wire* a few years ago. This is just another alt-country folk=snooze record, at least for the first few songs at least, though I notice that it does pick up speed a pinch by track #5 "Letter to Bowie Knife" and finally a little mariachi and Spanish words come in for track #6 "Roka." But by then it's too fucking late.

Just finally got this and listened and I actually had to check the lyric sheet to actually verify that they'd put the right album into the CD case. Every so often I'd drift away and start thinking I was listening to some Ryan Adams outtakes record.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Re Dino: Just noticed that at least one song rhymes "mammy" with "Alabamy."

And by the way, have I noted how over the top insanely great that *Texas Bohemia: Polkas Waltzes Schottisches: The Texas Bohemian-Moravian-German Bands* album I bought at Princeton Record Exchange a couple weeks ago is? Well, it is. It's barely left my CD changer since, and the amazing thing is that I keep forgetting it's not Mexican music, which it absolutely sounds like until they start singing in German or whatever. Some of the bands are really big, but some of them just seem to consist of nothing more than a drum and a tuba. Pick hits: Adolph Hofner "Beautiful America - Waltz" 1959 (in which he says everything in America is beautiful including the girls. I have a great album on vinyl by him, too. Must have been really hard to have a name like that in America in the 50s!); Vrazel & Majeks & Bobby Jones Czech Band "Corn Cockle Polka" 1992 (party in the background rock!), Tuba Meisters "Edelweiss" 1993 (yes, that "Edelweiss", but not the "Bring Me..." one); Henry Tannenberger & his Orchestra "On Our Porch Polka" 1986 (on Oompah Records out of San Antonio!); The Red Ravens "Stone Heart Waltz" 1977; Leroy Ryback's Swinging Orchestra "El Rancho Grande" 1985; Knutsch Band "Zwei Wie Mir Zwei" 1993; Vrazels & Majeks & Bobby Jones Czech Band (again!) "A Ja Sam (All By Myself)" 1992.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got those Dean Martin reissues too,but haven't listened yet. That kind of jazzy pop seemed to combine nostalgia (incl for something you don't and couldn't remember, but what the Old South and/or Old Folks Down or Back Home are associated with, in your mind incl social conditioning) with something that seemed newer, maybe still coming around the bend: the Swing era, and then the experience of downhome sons (incl Steubenville Ohio's Dino)encountering change in WWII (with all the nostalgia-mongering morale-boosting in that too: Al Jolson beginning his comeback while entertaining the troops in Europe and North Africa, etc)Not that the results might not have to do, in some cases, with Kurt Vonnegut's description of his fellow Hoosier and WWII vet Ernie Pyle, as a "globe-trotting rube." But either way involves "a little travelin music", as Bob Wills would say, and his fan Merle, who helped keep intrerest in western swing alive in the 70s, has long worked both the more adventurous and reactionary sides of that interest, and has offered to do a concert with Toby and Natalie. But also, way before that Hoagy-Dino sandwich, re that Ned Harrigan thing I sent you, xxhuxx, his innovative shows, came out of his experience of travelling in minstrel shows and early vaudeville (one of the regulars in Harrigan's troup was Tony Pastor, credited as the inventor of vaudeville), and he let his blackface characters give his Irish immigrant characters hell, not that they weren't often played by the same actors (quickchange artists,hell) His competitors incl. Gilbert & Sullivan and P.T. Barnum and Wild Bill's Wild West Show and lecturers like Mark Twain and Charles Dickens. (Harrigan hyped as "the American Dickens"; "American Zola," even!) all with the travelling version and vision of somthing that somehow still rings true, for lil folks like me and you. (Barnum's freak show a mutation of village quaintness, but so was minstrelsy, and jazzy nostalgia too, at times.)

don, Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"Still rings true" in that sentence meant mostly for the audiences of late 19th Century, but some of it for 20th, and 21th, as show biz continues to mutate and recombine ("The public wants something different, and the same": that's part of the story too)

don, Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks, Don -- and yeah, a lot of these old south and minstrel issues, I'm realizing, fit into discussions about the books *Southwest Shuffle: Pioneers of Honky-Tonk, Western Swing, and Country Jazz* by Rich Kienzle toward the start of this thread and *Speadin' Rhythm Around: Black Popular Songwriters, 1880-1930* toward the end of last year's.

A couple other thoughts/questions about the Dino reissue:

1) I'm realizing that it's never been especially clear to me what exactly Dixieland music (note its name!) *was.* Ritz's liner notes say, "combining elements of New Orleans, classic, and Chicago jazz, Dixieland came into is own in the 1920s." But who did the combining?

2) On the back of the original vinyl version of said album (reproduced small on the back of the CD's inner sleeve), a drum and bugle corps are mraching with a Confederate flag.

3) Clearly one of the obvious "intermediate steps along the way" I allude to above was, duh, Bing Crosby, who went #1 with "Dinah," which Martin covers, in 1932. The album is *all* covers, the notes say, and was partially a response to all the concept albums Sinatra had started putting out in the early '50s. And yeah, as far as I can tell, it does seem to be just Martin's second album. Other songs covered, according to the notes, were originally hits for the Heidelberg Quartet, Paul Whiteman's Rhythm Boys (at least three of them), the Mills Brothers (they did "Dinah" too, or maybe with Bing?), Gene Krupa with Anita O'Day, Jimmy Dorsey, Ozzie Nelson, Gene Austin, and a 20s comedy duo called Van & Shneck. "Way Down Yonder in New Orleans" wound up being a million seller for rock'n'roller Freddie Cannon (who was great, by the way) five years after Martin's version, in 1959.

4) Ritz refers to Martin "singing in much the casual manner in which he spoke, which, for lack of better designation, could be called 'conversational singing.'" So could many of Toby Keith's best performances, it occurs to me. As could "laid back drawl that was not quite southern, but a far cry for the east coast sophistication practiced by most male singers of the day." Not unlike (from the LP's *original* notes) Martin's "easy golf swing."

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Grrr. I mean **SPREADIN' Rhythm Around: Black Popular Songwriters, 1880-1930* (by David A Jasen and Gene Jones) (which, like that country jazz book, I never finished.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link


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