I just heard the Clientele for the first time

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I must say it is pretty damn good. What do you think.

― simona, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Suburban Light is fantastic. I picked that one up a while ago because of Ewing and I'm very glad I did.

― Mark, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just picked it up myself due to reco's on this board, I think its fantastic as well.

― Poops McGee, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Truly EXCELLENT band!!!!!!!!!!!

― Tim DiGravina, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Since I'm still waiting for it to arrive, does anyone have any thoughts on their new EP 'Lost Weekend'?

― Tim DiGravina, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Clientele -- the Strokes you can feel good about yourself for liking? *runs off cackling*

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned, can you elaborate please (about that Strokes curveball)?

― Tim DiGravina, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

More in this sense -- if the Clientele were on the major label getting the buzz and the Strokes were on Merge, how might you feel about them? An old canard to compare and contrast in this fashion, I know (and I don't think the two bands sound alike) but this is the third time this week I've seen a Clientele refer tied in with breathless praise where Them Strokes wouldn't -- and just today I heard a girl at the quick-stop-shop here on campus giving her own breathless praise regarding the Strokes as "Last Nite" came over the radio, so I was just idly pondering the nature of praise once again...

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'd guess a couple of Spearmint songs have more of a Strokes semi-resemblance anyway -- that Weddoes thing.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Clientele sold out.

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned, I see. I appreciate the humor, especially the thought of you, what was it, "running away cackling"? I'm of the school where I don't care if something is hyped or not hyped, major label or self- released... If the Strokes were on Merge or SpinArt, I'd still feel that they released a couple of very good singles, but I'd also still feel that their album is a lifeless bore. (That's just an opinion I'm offering as an example.) If The Clientile were on any label, major or indie, I'd still appreciate their music, as long as they're still operating in the rarified air of their singles/EPs. You actually got me doing some research into The Sound last night, and today I'm $40 poorer for it... I figured I'd try the one Hugh Jones produced, and then I couldn't resist the sleeve for Jeopardy. Time will tell on these, once I give them a go. They're certainly a hyped band, but I'm trusting my ILM peers on these reissues. Back to The Clientile... are you not a fan? The 'Suburban Light' collection annoyed the heck out of me at first, but now I'm powerless to its charms. Anyone else? Anyone heard the new EP yet?

― Tim DiGravina, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Suburban Light, was the same for me. Annoying at first but the more I listened the more I enjoyed. Standout tracks for me, #4 and #12.

― Poops McGee, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

how does Spearmint figure into this? The clientele are almost like a mini-strokes in hype maybe. I guess it could happen to them, but I have never seen any pictures of them so I don't know if they are pretty enough. Their stuff is fantastic tho. I don't dislike the Strokes record either...

― g, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

strokes and clientele - both vacuous retro-mongers - i like them both anyway, seeing as they write good tunes.

― minna, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

there's kettles of fish involved in me posting... but i can't really resist (i consider myself one of the early fans anywho). i don't really understand how the clientele were "hyped". as far as it seemed to me it was kind of a grass-roots-kindling of excitement over a good new band, much like the belle & sebastian excitement in '96. certainly no one was getting paid to say they were good, and the people who were saying good things weren't even getting that much press. besides, i don't think that the clientele are instintaneously likeable - unlike the strokes who are just familiarly easy enough to get into your heat - the clientele are a bit more unusual and i assume that it's this weird new (or old) sound (be it vocals or reverb or whatever) that people find annoying - or difficult to get into at first.

plus, i think they're getting too old to become poster children for a new pop movement. though those horrible canadian rockers in the charts currently sort of show that age doesn't really matter.

i am very keen to see how their (the clientele not the canadian rockers) next stuff goes down, and i think it'll split fans into two groups - the ones that wrongly see them as a 60's throwback and the ones that see them more as their 80's influences a la G500 and Felt and as a distict band with their own style. the former will really only dig one song on the new ep, while the latter will like the whole piece. there is a instrumental piano piece that i think is beautiful in a henry mancini "stranger in the dark" way, so we'll see if the prediction plays out particularly concerning this track.

also, i just wanted to say that i really like the new lambchop album. what is that one? no. 5?

― marianna, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Clientele were a distinct band with their own style pretty much from the get-go.. I could pick a Clientele song at a hundred paces. I think this is a good thing, I just hope that their style doesn't become wearying or played out. I hope the same thing for Life Without Buildings, another very distinctive band I adore.

― electric sound of jim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

A lovely band whose style has, unfortunately, become wearying and played out. For me, at least.

― Ally C, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i don't like a good number of the songs on the suburban light cd, i think because it sounds like they were still searching for the formula on the early songs but everything since 'i want you more than ever' and 'a fading summer ep' has been nearly perfect.

― keith, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Back to The Clientile... are you not a fan?

I'm not as rapturously sold on them as others here clearly are, let's put it that way. No active hate or indifference, though.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the former will really only dig one song on the new ep, while the latter will like the whole piece.

The song that really stood out for me was 'Kelvin Parade'. ('Emptily Through Holloway' I'd heard before.) The rest will take more time, but I think it will come. I'm glad they're taking a new direction, and I feel that the ep creates a distinct atmosphere. Considering the songs that they've performed live that weren't included on the ep, I'm guessing that they were aiming for varied overtones, rather than the continuous high of Suburban Light.

it sounds like they were still searching for the formula on the early songs

I dunno... the guitar work always sounds exquisite to me, like no one else. I'm interested in all those variations. In a chickfactor interview, I read that Alasdair Maclean writes the songs on a nylon- string guitar, and while I can only guess at the difference, I imagine some kind of toy instrument in one scenario, something completely angelic in another. I think he is an original musician.

― youn, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is the only indie band -- in the Orange Juice/Felt/hunting down split singles sense of the word -- that I really care about. I'm still playing and loving everything they've released and the new record is on order and I'm very much looking forward to it.

― scott p., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Everytime I try to give them a chance, I download something that's so dreadfully out of tune that it makes me ill.

― Melissa W, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hehehe.. I'm trying to imagine what Clientele vs V/Vm might be like in the sickness-inducing stakes

― electric sound of jim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the songs were not released in the order that they were written. i think you'll find that some of the songs where they were "searching for the formula" as you say were actually written much later than a couple of the songs on "a fading summer". the stuff coming out now is all new (sorta) but there will be songs on the next album that will be older than the songs on "the lost weekend" and maybe older than a couple of the songs on "suburban light"?

― marianna, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Listening to the ep last night, particularly during 'Last Orders', I was reminded of something Kevin Pearce wrote in his article for Tangents: when they play, they seem to be taking their time and waiting for cues from within the song. That's where I think the comparisons to Felt break down: one often has the impression that Lawrence and Maurice Deebank were working against each other, and although the tension that resulted was compelling, one doesn't have the sense, as with the Clientele, that the song is being driven, even at its most languid moments, by some force within the song. Last night I was thinking of what Nitsuh wrote about Galaxie 500 to show how they are different from the Velvet Underground--the parader's slow wave. That image fits this ep, but it has finer resolution: with Galaxie 500, I think the impression of languor was as much an effect of the way they were produced: the graininess was a desired effect.

― youn, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sorry, that article was actually written by Daniel Williams.

― youn, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just wondering--Do The Clientele ever do any cover songs when they perform live? I'm just thinking it would be interesting to see how they directly filter their influences. Oh, and ha ha if anybody says they're just a tribute band of band x or band y to begin with. I think they're spectacular (that's a dorky word) -- but I do think they're quite special. Anybody heard them do covers?

― Tim DiGravina, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, no covers but I'd bet they'd do a mean "Daydream Believer".

― Poops McGee, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

heres a interview w/Alasdair

― Poops McGee, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They've just done a cover of a West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band song. Havne't heard it or the original tho'

― electric sound of jim, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They have played Neil Diamond's "And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind" live (beautifully).

I'm off to attack the Lost Weekend ep, a 10" copy of which I obtained last night (cheers, m. !)

If interested, more info about the band can be gleaned here or form the very laid back lacewings list

― David, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ok, then. well then i suppose i like the more breathy, atmospheric stuff over the marching tunes like 'we can walk together'.

― keith, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...

Who else has heard the new album "The Violet Hour" on Merge.

I think I have convinced myself that I like this album a lot.

― don weiner, Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

From what I have heard, I think it's an absolute masterpiece. "The House Always Wins", in particular, has been making my head spin for months and the recording captures why perfectly. I'm so used to bands I see live make horrible hashes of songs when they come to record them that it's a real treat. But it's one of those records which has a different stand-out every time you play it.

It's exciting that the Clientele seem to be going some of the way to fulfilling Dan's hopes in the triffic article Youn (come back Youn!) linked to above, and I hope allaying some of his fears.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

a new clientele album?! swoon.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

I just hope that Don hasn't heard it via a file sharing network! It's not on sale until July 22nd-ish.

― marianna, Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

Don has the advance.

― don weiner, Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

i've been digging the Lost Weekend EP a lot lately..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

I hope to hear it soon via a file-sharing network. The Lost Weekend EP is amazing. I'm glad the new one's not available until July because I can't afford it right now.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder if the knit separates were ever in a ral studio if they would not come out sounding a lot like the clientele.

― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

The singer used to be a semi-regular on ILM.

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

the singer's partner still is!

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

Who dat?

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

she's about seven posts above you there

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 May 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

Don had no idea that anyone in the band hung out here. Cheers to The Clientele!

― don weiner, Friday, 23 May 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Oh man, The Violet Hour is incredible. I'll be playing this unit a lot... especially on rainy nights like tonight.

― blutroniq (blutroniq), Sunday, 22 June 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

OK, finally got a hold of the Violet Hour, and it is indeed everything I had hoped it would be, especially the second half. Like an old attic dusty with powdered sugar. It's possible I didn't cotton to the first half as much because the air conditioner was drowning it out. And the CD is going to have little films on it apparently! Can't wait.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 29 June 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

i just ordered it, i wonder if i will get a snazzy button. it comes out here a week before the uk release. now if the knit separates would release their record already it could be a great week.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 June 2003 03:14 (twenty years ago) link

every time i try to get mixing engineers to put as much reverb on my voice as the clientele do i get laughed at to my face :(

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 29 June 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

do you sing about the rain?

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 June 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

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i'm no expert on these things but i think the bass guitar sounds too damped or muffled and is too low in the mix.

― youn, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I must say The Violet Hour is a lovely piece of work. I may investigate further. The second tracks sounds to me to have filched the bassline from Verve's "Where The Geese Go", which is a wonderful thing to filch.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link

cough.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

Wow what a joyless stupuid ass review! Man I swear sometimes that old cliche rings true that critics just do not get it! Thanks for the link!

― Mark Watsinki, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

These guys sound like My Morning Jacket if My Morning Jacket was from wherever these guys are from. Except MMJ's singer didn't use studio reverb for his voice, he recorded his vocals in a grain silo. And that whole instruments-in-tune thing. I kinda like it though.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

I'd rather shovel bees down my dick than listen to My Morning Jacket...

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not familiar with that song by the Verve, but when I listened to it yesterday, I thought the bass is what makes it sound like a country & western song.

― youn, Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

It's worth a download, certainly.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:54 (twenty years ago) link

Is it me, or was the formatting on the Voice review messed up? Part of the text was cut off at the end by ads.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 2 October 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

Nah, it was fucked. I read it by copy/pasting itinto the text box here and then deleting it.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 October 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I had the same problem, and it's not the first time that it's happened with the Voice online, either... Pretty ridiculous.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

Jess, that VV review should be linked to from the Indie Guilt thread (tho I pretty much agree w/ it.)

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:10 (twenty years ago) link

haha well we had to edit out where i compared them to boards of canada and gorguts

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

i have no patience for bands who decide to "mature" no matter what the genre though, unless it's some barely perceptible shift across a couple albums

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

The best thing about this thread is that Youn pops up now and again and says something that I wouldn't have thought of but agree with completely. No disrespect to you other fine fellows, of course.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:00 (twenty years ago) link

Is anything on the new record as good as "Emptily Through Holloway" ?

― bert (bert), Friday, 3 October 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

When a band does post-collegiate longing as good as the Clientele[...]

ARGH! ARGH! "well"! "... does post-collegiate longing as well as the Clientele..."!!!!!

Ahem. Sorry about that.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 October 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

Is anything on the new record as good as "Emptily Through Holloway"

like, epic and falsetto? try "the house always wins." in terms of just abstract greatness, there's "missing," "haunted melody" and "lamplight" as well. plus the album is greater than the sum of its songs.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:47 (twenty years ago) link

I just heard Clientele for the last time. Thank god.

― , Sunday, 5 October 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link

dan perry rules

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 5 October 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

dan, do you get constipated a lot?

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

and when you finally let one go, do you groan in key?

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

if you're putting down the anal you're not among friends!!!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

Getting called anal has brightened my entire day.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 October 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i like the single version of 'porcelain' better because alasdair's singing is dramatic, more of a performance, e.g., with the sustained sibilant in 'swiftly on its way,' and because the drumming is exciting and chaotic. i like the album version of 'haunted melody' because all the warmth and prettiness and angularity is up front in the production. but i don't dislike the single: it has a different mood, storms in the moors...

― youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...

Have people come to dig The Violet Hour much?

I just listened again hoping it might click - as I loved the initial releases - but it's so foggy and whispy and seems mostly to insinuate melodies that rarely emerge.

Several tracks are sublime - eg. "Lamplight", the title track, those two earlier singles revisited - but I wish they would be a little more insistent throughout. Anyone else find it hard to adore?

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 4 March 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I find myself not likeing the violet hour as much as I like suburban light. However, I'm of the mind that lamplight is the best thing these guys have ever recorded. Is there any searchable stuff thats not on the lps that I should pick up?

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

there's not really a lot out there that's not on one or the other of the albums. "fear of falling" (the b-side to "haunted melody") is worth checking out (it's on a recent Merge compilation), and the "lost weekend" EP is their high watermark.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

I happne to know that Dr. C somehow myseteriously ended up with a copy of Suburban Light following an earlier discussion.

What was your verdict in the end, Doc?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 19 March 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder how much the excess reverb is what attracts the likes of myself, jess and Tim H to The Clientele? Indie-dub?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 11:32 (twenty years ago) link

the reverb on the newer record actually gives me headaches even when i'm not listening to it!

doesn't mean i don't like it though, in fact i'm just not sure

― !!!! (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

i'm still not really feeling the violet hour. i know its kind of the point, but it still just sort of washes over me for 45 mins, barely leaving any impression at all.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

I like it best, but I heard it first.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

The new EP (http://acuareladiscos.com/php_e/_noticias.php#51) is amazing: a couple of piano pieces, a limpid instrumental, a ten-minute drone and one fantastic new song in a recognisably Clientele mode.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

you like drones?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes. I quite enjoy talking to you in the pub, for example. (You must surely have been wanting me to say that).

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

yes, yes I did.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

That was like watching Raul and Zidane one-two past the last defender and then trickle it wide.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

for a nonbrit that last phrase sounds hopelessly lurid

― !!!! (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist you have to change your new handle so i can stop thinking you are endlessly shocked by everything on ilx

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

sorry

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

bought suburban light on saturday. it's making me feel happy.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...

I like the shunting sound at the end of "The Sea Inside a Shell" from the Ariadne ep. I had never listened to it loud enough to take notice of it before. I only looked up the title to write about the sound. It makes sense now and confirms a thought I'd had about the droning: even though it's an artificial sound, its loudness, its insistence, has the pull of sounds in nature. And even though the shunting sound is mechanical, the after effects put it in the natural world.

― youn, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Better late than never. Scooped up some tunes after reading thru the Clientele threads. A Fading Summer EP, "Rain," and "Since K Got Over Me" best so far. Superb.

One thing I don't get. The AMG review of A Fading Summer says it's for people who cherish Love's Forever Changes. Huh?? Forever Changes is great and all but A Fading Summer is very different in tone and intent. The references to Neil Halsted and Dean Wareham make more sense.

― that's not my post, Saturday, 28 June 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

new EP is out sometime in the next couple of weeks, by the way.

― f. hazel, Saturday, 28 June 2008 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Always found the Love referencing a tad odd myself, though I think it has to do with an approach to songwriting more than the actual sound. Someone who likes Love more than I could probably explain. Anyway, listening today to Violet Hour all the way through for the first time in a while and it sounds pretty fucking great -- better than I remembered. Not hard to see why it was a little disappointing after Suburban Light-- how could it not be?-- but it seems like the perfect album-length distillation of their early sound in retrospect.

― Mark Rich@rdson, Saturday, 28 June 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

New EP? Is it new, original material or re-mixed old songs?

I love this band, BTW.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ariadne ep is my favorite

― tremendoid, Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

The Love comparisons are only half-right. If you took Arthur Lee out of Love and just let Bryan MacLean (presumably someone who's only spiritually related to Alasdair) sing about "orange skies, carnivals and cotton candy" you'd have a pretty decent blueprint for the Clientele's sound. Bryan's collected demos released ten years ago, as well as the Love songs where he sings lead, would be an example of what this Lee-less Love would sound like.

― Cunga, Saturday, 3 January 2009 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Fans of the C should check out this band Murals

― calstars, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

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