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More than a year on the US charts, 5 milion plus sales it's finally made number one this week. Does it success indicate a cultural shift in attitudes towards 'roots' music or is it just a flash in the pan album with some nice tunes?

Could the Brits provide a similaly successful album?

Billy Dods, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Trad answers please.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I guess it's popular because it makes big-jeep-driving white yuppies feel like they are getting in touch with their ancestors. I know because I worked in a music store that only yuppies and hipster coffee drinking college kids went to. I don't think the yuppies can make themselves listen to any bluegrass that's not endorsed by George Clooney so this will probably pass.

Lindsey B, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Lasted a hell of a lot longer than the movie it's the soundtrack to. The Coens will have two films total out before this stops selling, at this rate.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I agree with the previous posters wholeheartedly. At the same time, I think people are getting tired of overproduced pop crap - and this was a nice diversion. But as a whole, the public can only digest one record like this - and will only do so if it's introduced to them in movie form first. Now back to our regular program (i.e. drivel.)

Dave225, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The new Buena Vista Social Club?

Mark, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

if it even gets yuppies to listen to skip james songs ... i don't see any problem with that. but if it it's gonna make more mediocre soundtracks come out, like the songcatcher one, this thing might turn sour.

but i don't think it will improve the sales of the smithsonian catalog.

olly 360, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nothing much to add on OBWAT save that I recall liking the music when I saw the movie and a I don't drive a jeep (or indeed anything).

Equiv. phenom. in UK (non-'roots') = Eva Cassidy?
Before her, Vanessa Mae?

Jeff W, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was actually talking about this with my partner the other day while we were listening to some other similar material. I think the high cheese factor in most of the other recent stuff in this genre (way too happy sweet and innocent, often very cloying production) puts most people off of it in general, and the fact that it was a movie soundtrack boosted the chances of something like this...especially when people could track its progress on something like amazon.com, where it was #1 a while back, and for a good long time, too, even knocking out the Beatles #1 comp. It was a groundswell, I think, and I think people got it not necessarily because they liked it, but because it was #1. It would be interesting to see the percentage of those who bought it who actually enjoyed it vs. those who felt taken afterwards. My personal opinion is that if people actually enjoyed this music for what it was as opposed to who else bought it, that newest Dolly Parton album, Little Sparrow, would have done a hell of a lot better than it did.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yay vanessa mae!! from now on ALL threads on ILM must be abt vanessa mae: for i shall simply delete the others

mark s, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I havent heard it but I guess Sept 11 has the US public looking for something patriotic/conservative, or were record sales high pre Sept 11? Either way not a major cultural shift towards this type of music long term. As for Brits I presume u mean celtic music,whic is always lurking around.

kiwi, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(my vanessa mae plan lasted abt a minute and a half btw)

mark s, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think record sales were high pre-9/11, though it wouldn't surprise me if they increased in response. I saw the movie, hated it, and thought the music was the best part, though not my cup of tea.

There is another music board I used to post to more regularly, a much less lively place than this one, dominated largely by requests for IDs of songs heard on tv. Anyway, some of the people there, who already have some interest in this type of music, semed to be excited about the sound-track, and hoped it would trigger some sort of a new trend toward old time music, but I have my doubts.

I really wouldn't mind getting into more American roots, traditional stuff, and No Depression type stuff, but so far a lot of it doesn't do much for me.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it would trigger some sort of a new trend toward old time music

I'm still sort of bemused at the idea of any random revival being interpreted by its practitioners that the public will stop listening to that 'modern trash' and discover 'good music.' Not saying that's what the folks on the board were posting, but I've come across that often enough. Very much wishful thinking...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Ned's spot on. Success of OBWAT seems analogous to the success of Graceland, and we all know how well those African dude's did after that.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm still sort of bemused at the idea of any random revival being interpreted by its practitioners that the public will stop listening to that 'modern trash' and discover 'good music.' Not saying that's what the folks on the board were posting, but I've come across that often enough.

Actually, that was close to the attitude of at least some of the people posting. I think there is some sort of American roots trendlet going on, but I can't see it getting huge.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, then those people are fools, bluntly put. I wish I could elaborate more thoroughly in my brain about why they're wrong, but it's like they just don't get it, if you will. What 'it' is is what I'm having a hard time trying to define -- but it's so axiomatic that I'm almost struggling to explain such a (to me) obvious point. Is is that technology has changed everything? That one flavor is not *the* flavor? Hm...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ten years pass...

So Mrs. McBB really loves this soundtrack and I'd like to play her something a bit more authentic. Any recommendations for compilations of original material in the vein of this soundtrack?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 25 March 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

There's definitely a variety of material on the soundtrack, but these could be good places to start.

Classic Mountain Songs from Smithsonian Folkways
Stoneman Family: Old Time Tunes of the South

beachville, Sunday, 25 March 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Additionally, one of my favorite out of print Stoneman albums (albeit a later, major-label one and so maybe slightly less authentic?) can be found pretty easily by googling for Pop Stoneman Memorial Album. I think it probably still fits the bill.

beachville, Sunday, 25 March 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

A good Stanley Brothers comp would be one place. On the other hand if what she likes is the sound of that soundtrack, with its modern production and all, then the Alison Krauss comp Now That I've Found You might be more suited.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

Worth a read:

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/fifteen-years-later-bluegrass-is-still-reeling-from-o-brother-where-art-thou/Content?oid=5070656

I do love this:

But even though the soundtrack focuses on traditional tunes, the Coens and company were surprised to find that some songs they had thought were in the public domain—and thus, free to use in the film—were not, in fact, traditional. They'd been mining discs of music that had often been incorrectly deemed traditional. Wilbur knew that sloppy attributions wouldn't fly.

"I remember my first conversation with Ethan when he showed me the CD, and he said, 'Look, it says right here, 'Traditional,'" Wilbur says. "I said, 'So what?'"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link


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