Defend the Indefensible: Fun Lovin' Criminals

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La di da di, free John Gotti...

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Huey is currently working on the British film Clubbing to Death with Craig Charles,Nick Moran, Dave Courtney, Deepak Verma and Gary Shail. The film is due for release in 2007."

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

it was nice of the u.k. to embrace them and give them money. very charitable. i finally heard that first album last year and really liked it!

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

they wrote a song about bombing a mass transit system way before the terrorists ever thought of it. i say kudos.

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and they invented rap music.

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

possibly.

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like their debut album. I even saw'em in concert. Well, at a festival.

― nathalie, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

that bowery boyz persona is really my fave white rapper persona. early beasties, lordz of brooklyn, fun lovin' criminals, house of pain, prime minister sinister pete nice. i like all of it.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Lordz of Brooklyn, Fun Lovin' Criminals: what's up with Irish guys pretending to be Italian?

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean latching on to the tropes of actual olde-tymey crime organizations like the mafia or irish mob or whatever makes perfect sense. plus, you get to puff on big cigars and wear fancy hats.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i don't think the actual ethnicity thing even matters. it's all from movies.

http://members.aol.com/OUTERSHEL/cards/10-BoweryBoys.jpg

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY LADIEEEEEEEZ

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/5068_13304_1.jpg

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

you know, they had a record called 100% Columbian, but I'm not sure they were Columbian at all.

how did they end up all lounge-y? was that a gradual transition, or a drastic change of direction?

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

lordz of brooklyn saturday nite fever video for maximum hat action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxTiVAzv1U

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want to do a defend the indefensible than you need look no further than g love & his very special sauce.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a very soft spot for 100% Columbian, which my flatmate played non-stop in grad school. I quite liked that song sampling Tom Petty.

― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

what's up with Irish guys pretending to be Italian?

What's up with black rappers pretending to be Italian?

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What's up with running around robbing banks all wacked off of scooby snacks?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought they were "waxed"

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

In any case, robbing multiple banks in a single drug-fueled spree is very impressive.

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

What type of person listened to these guy in the states? I certainly liked their first album, but I was the only one in my high-school. And I loved all ca. 1995 hip-hop-centric alt-rock (Soul Coughing, Beck, Eels, Sugar Ray before they went soft, first G Love album, Chili Peppers, 311, etc, etc, etc.)

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

that's one of the bravest admissions i've heard on ilx, certainly

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

What type of person listened to these guy in the states?

Probably the type of person who listened to all the other mentioned stuff but had a larger-than-average CD collection and took chances on new bands.

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Korn too.

Fuck else was I going to listen to in the pre-internet suburbs? I had Spin and 120 Minutes.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously chris, that's an AA-level admission there. kudos.

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

let us not forget GEGGY TAH.

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think somehow weezer's "el scorcho" fits in here too.

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i want this thread to reach the nostalgic heights of the crow soundtrack thread

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

ALT-ROCK IS THE GLUE THAT BINDS US

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

'There Was A Time' is nice. Runs with U2 'One' verse bassline/chords and mainly instrumental but the sample of the woman singing towards the end is great - would like to know where that comes from.

― blueski, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i had a friend in college who did the most astounding imitation of 311's "down" video

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

he also used to call me the angriest white man in america

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

later retracted and downgraded to 'cantankerous'

― blueski, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

well i've mellowed. like fun lovin' criminals.

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i went to a yard sale last year and this dude had HUNDREDS of CDs and it was all early 90's grunge/311/blind melon/lite-rap/etc. i picked up a lot of good stuff. fun lovin' criminals included.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

but i left the dozen or so sublime CDs behind. did pick up the first sunny day real estate though. and house of pain of course. and 3rd bass.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

ALT-ROCK IS THE GLUE THAT BINDS US

You've been playing your copy of Sixteen Stone again, haven't you.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, that dude had all bush albums. and all metallica from black album on. got first naughty by nature album too.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it was drinking half a bottle of tequila a few weekends ago and hearing sublime and 311 while i was out that did it

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure my life peaked in the spring of 1997

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

and surely all those good timey rock tunes had something to do with it

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i still remember when i first read that venus williams' favourite band were 311. she said she obsessed about them, nearly fainted when she met them backstage and that they inspired her to play the guitar and write her own songs. and i was like wtf i thought you were the cooler williams sister.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

serena on the other hand gets thanked in the credits to brandy albums.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg

where have you gone, zac hanson, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

But Brandy murders people.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

311 only kills brain cells.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I still like Down.

"Danananuh/DanaNAnuh/Danananuh/DanaNAnuh/DANANUH NAH NANANUH NUH NUH NA NANANANAH NAH NANUH NANUH NAH!!"

― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Huey Morgan is on some celebrity dog obedience class reality show on BBC2 which I inadvertantly discovered when idling flicking through TV channels earlier this evening. Such a lame attempt to hitch oneself to the reality TV bandwagon must count for something?

― ailsa, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I was having a couple of beers at a bar with my sister. She was pretty young. A group of bikies arrived and stood at one end of the bar swilling beers and being rowdy. Me and my sister were standing at the jukebox trying to choose a song when one of them came swaggering over. Uh oh I thought. I'm going to get stabbed. He asks if they've got a song on the jukebox - "you know, the one that goes stick em' up punk, we're the fun loving criminals" [makes double six gun shooting motion]. I help him find it, we all have a drink and a chat, he leers at my sister for a bit So there you go - Fun Lovin' Criminals helps bridge the gap between bikies and Joe Q. Public.

― badg, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

bikies

― admrl, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Boy this stuff hasn't aged well.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Strong defence.

― surm? lol (sic), Thursday, 9 July 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i rented the King Of New York tonight and was just humming this fucken song in blockbusters

― nice babies finnish blast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 July 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice bass sound on that first album.

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 July 2009 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Fun Lovin Criminal" is still a bangin' toon in my view.

― Freedom, Thursday, 9 July 2009 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link

still wanna know what that female vocal on 'There Was A Time' is from - found some interview a while back where Fast said it was a very old US folk song but no further details.

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

For some reason, I thought Fun Lovin' Criminals, Lordz of Brooklyn and G. Love and Special Sauce were all different names for the same band (like, you know, how rappers call themselves all sorts of different things). It's only reading this thread that's allowed me to separate them at all in my head.

Also, as a side note, 311 were in a movie called Omaha that's one of the funniest '90s indie comedies, and definitely the funniest thing to ever come out of Omaha ever. The best parts are when they get the (actual) chief of police to talk about the roving gangs of kickboxers coming over from Iowa. 311 plays, like, "incidental rock band" or something and is moderately credible as Fishbone-lite.

― THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Memories.

Actually some great Whiney/strongo posts up there, but I want the UK folks to confess some more.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

so eventually i learned that the sample on There Was A Time is Wilma Burgess 'I Don't See Me In Your Eyes Anymore' which was recently added to her myspace #happyending

― black bloc bologna (blueski), Thursday, 7 April 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I really like their debut album. I even saw'em in concert. Well, at a festival.
― nathalie, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:39 (4 years ago)

I enjoyed the singles off the first album when they were on the radio, and saw 'em at a festival in '99, where they were one of the funnest acts of the day.

Huey and Kar1 Hyde from Underwor1d reportedly came to blows backstage, though, over the honour of Saffr0n from Repub1ica.

― Ita Buttrock (sic), Thursday, 7 April 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i like huey on 6 music. he has a good radio voice, and his music selection is often very enjoyable.

― mark e, Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

He has very good music taste, better than Lauren Laverne at any rate, but 6music now seem determined to boost his royalty cheques by playing one of his own abysmal records at any opportunity.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 7 April 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

saw the TV advert for this shit last night. god help us all.

― cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 April 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope to never hear another Fun Lovin' Criminals again, but I find Huey winning: he has an amiable radio manner, a fondness for dogs and the air of a cheerful, generous and self-aware slogger who is grateful for all that life has given him, despite his limited gifts.

He's married to a 'Lady Rebecca Morgan'. Is he now a minor aristocrat?

― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 7 April 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

But Brandy murders people.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:32 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 April 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Brandy killed someone her car, remember?

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b54248_brandy_sets_off_fatal_car_crash.html

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

my brother was a fan of their first album, and in late '98 while I was on a trip to London I picked up a copy of 100% Colombian for him since it hadn't been released in the U.S. yet. it was a pretty decent album! definitely enjoyable and well crafted aside from the band's inherently corny schtick.

― ℯℳℴ　❤＼(◕～◕✿ (some dude), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I was in Europe in '98 too and I met these guys in Germany who, upon finding out that I was American, went all nuts about Fun Lovin' Criminals. I've never heard their second album, but I had been fairly derisive of the first one to my American friends who liked it (I feigned ignorance to the Germans).

― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, I told the German guys to check out Sublime. I thought I was being such a cultural ambassador.

― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol britishes -- this is how we punished you for Bush (the band).

― i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Friday, 15 February 2013 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

He's...still doing things.

http://bit.ly/184zs2b

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

La di da di, free John Gotti, dancin' with Molly

― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

He's...still doing things.

"and 6 Music DJ"

hasn't he been doing this for about six years tho?

― ͼѾͽ (sic), Monday, 4 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

ha, as the last few revives were all about

― ͼѾͽ (sic), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

I slightly sympathised with him, think he was having a mini existential crisis bought on by the current shitness of Buzzcocks.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link

Argh! Had completely forgotten about this shit. Thanks, ILM.

― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Nice bass sound on that first album.

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy),

just put this on out of a random 'huh' groove, and thought this exact thing.

basically, this album does not need a remaster.

― mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

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