Best Chris Bell Solo Album

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It was this or Walter Becker

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I am the Cosmos 12
None of them, I don't like Chris Bell1


ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw a clip of Becker singing "Haitian Divorce" during some live performance. Not his finest moment.

David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha what is walter becker's finest moment? that should be its own thread.

ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"Walter Becker's Finest Moment" should be its own cologne

Bangelo, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Becker's finest moment = the looks he gives Fagen when DF starts rapping over the intro to "Black Cow" in that Aja Ultimate Albums DVD.

David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Lewis Taylor made the best Chris Bell solo album, or maybe it was Van Duren.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I Am The Cosmos wins this in a landslide.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

a real wrist slitter, this one!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, give the poor dead fucker a break, ya heartless bastards!

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean the record is really depressing and sad

Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's depressing and sad and very good. Songs like You and Your Sister are perfect soft-rock material -- with all those treacly strings -- but much more poignant than the typical, contrived AM Gold fare.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

NO DISCUSSION JUST VOTING

ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

This record was quite a triumph for Bell. Certainly no irony that we're casting a pole for him.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://bluestormmusic.com/store/images/newyorkdolls_toomuchtoosoon.jpg

ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

you can't put your arms around a gamma ray

Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite by this guy is I am the Cosmos.

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 27 April 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link

the best track is "I Don't Know," which is about the crazed epitome of Memphis powerpop. whaddya mean, no discussion? "best Chris Bell Solo record" indeed. frankly these polls have become tedious--go make up y'all's own fuckin' mind about your favorite albums or whatever.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 27 April 2007 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

ALL RIGHT, SHOW YOURSELF

ghost rider, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU

ghost rider, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

LOOKING AT YOU, LEX

ghost rider, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it was me! The songs I heard off that album were boringly religious and sounded a LOT like his older Big Star songs.

abanana, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 07:07 (sixteen years ago) link

;_;

ghost rider, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

As opposed to what, his younger Big Star songs?

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

dude, ghost rider, the chris bell solo album is overrated. sorry.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

n o it isnt

strgn, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

you could lose a herd of bison in the gulf that seperates the quality of you and your sister and i am the cosmos from any other song on that album. the reissue i had addressed this neatly by having about 3 different versions of each.

cw, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link

this is silly

mully, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not saying the rest of the album is poor p.s., just that those two tower above it

cw, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

"It's suuuuuicide ... I know I tried it twice." Yeesh what a downer of an album this is. Downer because of subject matter and more importantly it's not a fraction as good as I had led myself to believe ten years ago. The title track is a turgid mess. And it's the best thing on there. "We had a fight at the taaaaaable." Seriously. A better poll would be the worst lyric on this album. I remember playing "Though I Know She Lies" for some friends to convince them of its genius, like where the song just falls apart right before that guitar solo... Well, maybe "Though I Know She Lies" IS genius but this record is mostly cack.

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not great but it's certainly not that bad

Tom D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Certainly miles better than most Alex Chilton albums!

Tom D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Best Chris Bell Solo Album

mully, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

you could lose a herd of bison in the gulf that seperates the quality of you and your sister and i am the cosmos from any other song on that album. the reissue i had addressed this neatly by having about 3 different versions of each.

-- cw, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:35 (1 hour ago) Link

YES^^

I Am The Cosmos is no Flies On Sherbert!

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

And there are so many other great Alex Chilton albums to compare it to

Tom D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Personally I'd like to hear a version of "I Am The Cosmos" that's not so larded with Geoff Emerick's Abbey Road production.

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i missed this poll. the only chris bell solo album i've heard is i am the cosmos and i think i'd vote for that.

artdamages, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

point

mully, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

you could lose a herd of bison in the gulf that seperates the quality of you and your sister and i am the cosmos from any other song on that album. the reissue i had addressed this neatly by having about 3 different versions of each.

Yeah, but which way does this cut? It either means the other songs on the disc are just so-so, or that the two standout songs are so good that everything else pales in comparison. I think it's the latter.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I like "I got Kinda Lost." It's fun.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

And the religious stuff always struck me as very do-I-even-believe-this-myself.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link

it sounds like his version of 'third/sister lovers' to me

strgn, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 07:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Walter Becker's Finest Moment" should be its own cologne

X post
Niche cologne marketing....
'Alex Chilton's Holocaust'
'Jim O'Rourke's Insignificance'
'Kim Gordon's Goo'
I'll stop now

sonofstan, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ew

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I love this album, especially "Though I Know She Lies" and "Better Save Yourself".

Simon H., Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

BEST BLIND FAITH ALBUM

gershy, Friday, 25 January 2008 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Some interesting recollections from Will Rigby
http://boogiewoogieflu.blogspot.com/2008/03/paper-hat.html

The 45 shown here may well have been the first Big Star record in all of North Carolina. A bunch of us in Winston-Salem were into Big Star when it actually existed—I paid list price for #1 Record in 1972, which puts me in a select group of people. I had to go to Raleigh to find it, which sounds so romantic from this age of downloading. Our high school band Little Diesel played "In the Street" and "September Gurls" in 1973-74. The former became the theme of That 70's Show in the late 1990s; the latter was recorded by the Bangles in the mid-1980s.

The first record I ever played on was an eponymous 1976 six-song EP by Sneakers. I feel confident in asserting it was the first record ever to have reviews cite Big Star as an influence.

In the spring of 1978, inspired more by Big Star's records than by those of Elvis or Otis or Al, I took a trip to Memphis with two singer-songwriter-guitarists, Peter Holsapple and Mitch Easter. They had just been in a band (without me) named the H-Bombs in Chapel Hill, and had recently done some recording that Alex Chilton was desultorily involved in. We were thinking of starting a new band and relocating. This was almost certainly the first of many musicians' pilgrimages in search of the Big Star essence.

The first thing we did was look up Alex. He was then living at his parents' house and recording what became Like Flies on Sherbert. He graciously let us hang out with him quite a bit—I remember spending one afternoon listening to records at Tommy Hoehn's house. He also took us to a bar where Keith Sykes was playing, and with whom Alex got up and sang a twisted version of "Money."

Alex told us where we could find Chris Bell: managing a Danver's Restaurant in the suburbs. My understanding at the time was that Danver's is/was a local chain of fast-food restaurants owned by Chris's family, but I'm not sure about that. When we arrived there weren't many customers, and we walked up to the counter and asked for him. He came out in the typical paper hat and short-sleeve shirt and tie. He seemed nonplussed that some fans had gone to the trouble to find him, but agreed to meet us after he got off work (he couldn't talk then).

We met at a fern bar for drinks. He didn't know what to say to our probably ridiculous questions along the lines of "where's it really at in Memphis, man?" He asked if we wanted to go to the Horslips show (no!), and his reply to our query of what he was listening to was "Fleetwood Mac". The one quote I recall best: "I dunno, rock 'n' roll just kinda went dead for me." He seemed sad and frustrated.

We all knew that Alex was in the studio (Sam Phillips) that night, and we kept badgering him to take us there, despite his in-retrospect-obvious reluctance. He finally relented. It wasn't until much later that I realized how uncomfortable he must have been, and that the fact of our arriving with Chris Bell made us suspect in the eyes of Jim Dickinson and Richard Rosebrough (producer and engineer, respectively) and whoever else was there. Alex was gracious, showed us around the building (a fifties classic), and just kinda nodded at Chris. Chris sat silent and sullen for a while, and I think we had to leave with him cuz we were sharing a car. Alex played us "Girl After Girl", "I've Had It", and a few more songs, which had not been mixed (and if you're familiar with that album, you know that the performances were very chaotic by design, which was pretty out there for the time). The album didn't come out for another two years. This was the extent of my encounter with Chris Bell (or Jim Dickinson, for that matter).

Alex spent another afternoon with Mitch and me (Peter had to leave early) driving down into Mississippi and onto a levee and being effusive about the Delta blues, with some barbecue in there somewhere. He took us to 706 Union Avenue, what had been Sun Studio but at the time was an unoccupied storefront. He found a way in through a broken back door. It had most recently been an auto repair shop; in what had been the recording room was the abandoned shell of a car—no wheels, no windows, no doors, no engine. There wasn't anything left of what had been a fulcrum of musical change EXCEPT, as Alex pointed out, the acoustical tiles still on the ceiling. He climbed up on the car and liberated one for himself and one for Mitch. To my eternal regret, I declined. (A few years later the site was renovated and now is a tourist-magnet re-creation of the original studio, but I knew it when.)

On a little portable cassette machine Alex played us "I Am the Cosmos" for the first time. And told us some things about Chris Bell, Big Star, Ardent, and the whole scene that we probably didn't need to know: that John Fry, the owner of the studio and label, was gay, and so was Chris, and that Chris got jealous that John got interested in Alex (and that this was the reason that Chris erased the master tapes of #1 Record); or that Alex was better at tennis than Chris, who could never beat him no matter how hard he tried. I know Alex to be an enthusiastic embellisher of the truth, but when "You Can't Have Me" appeared on the belated release of the third Big Star album later that year I recognized what/who it must be about, and I still can't hear it without thinking about all this.

It seems quaint now to have gone 600 miles in search of the secret of a band that had barely existed, got almost no radio play, and had no impact on the marketplace. We didn't want to go to Graceland, or Al Green's church, or the Stax studio; we did try to re-create the photo on the back of Radio City, at its original location, TGI Friday's (I don't know whether that photo still exists, and of course it didn't come out as anything more than a dumb snapshot). There was no essence to be found.

I moved to New York City a couple of months later. Peter did move to Memphis for a few months; he made some late-night recordings with Alex (also at Sam Phillips), some of which have appeared on bootlegs. He survived the summer of '78, when the Memphis police and firefighters struck simultaneously and the National Guard was called in to keep order, and in the fall moved up to New York City to join Chris Stamey and myself in The dB's. Mitch Easter also briefly lived in NYC before beginning his career in recording studios (and Let's Active) in North Carolina.

Chris Bell died in a car crash late that year, a few months after "I Am the Cosmos" came out on 45.

In 1995 I wrote a song about Chris Bell and these memories. Your host Ted Barron figured out who it was about, somehow (we lived in the same building at the time). I've never told anyone (except my ex-wife Amy Rigby, who appears on the recording) before now. It appeared only on a very obscure release.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, that's a great read. "Interesting", as you say, but also sad and strange. Secret histories are the best kind.

contenderizer, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

wau @ this: John Fry, the owner of the studio and label, was gay

always under the impression dude was a born-again. not that those are necessarily mutually exclusive.

will, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I had to go to Raleigh to find it, which sounds so romantic from this age of downloading.

So true. But this raises issues about the romantic notions of crate-digging and being an "obscurist" that have been debated elsewhere on these boards.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 May 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting stuff! i mentioned it on another big star thread, but anybody with an interest in the chris bell and that whole memphis power pop scene should get this NOW: http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=z76xmtfdv9&ref=browse.php&refQ=kwfilter%3Dardent%26amp%3Bincl_oos%3D1%26amp%3Bincl_cs%3D1
it is great through and through -- and not just for the Big Star outtakes. Though those are fucking awesome.

tylerw, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

All right, I give in.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

BUY BUY BUY!

tylerw, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I am the wind, but that won't bring you back again

calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

The title track is like the longest 3 minutes and 50 seconds ever!

ColinO, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i sold this LP.

ian, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

What are a few standout tracks? I want to hear a few songs before I spend money on this Ardent Records thing..

billstevejim, Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I Am the Cosmos is THEE SONG on this, along with You and Your Sister (as CW says above). Record overall is decent, but those songs are staggering, life-altering (esp. the title track). Just buy the fucking thing.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh wait.. I meant the Ardent Records "Thank You Friends" comp.

billstevejim, Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah "I Am The Cosmos" is def heartbreaking, but for whatever reason they didn't include it in this collection.

billstevejim, Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link

What IS in this collection?

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't bought that Ardent thing -- been meaning to -- but one of my greatest finds of 2008 was the lone album by the Hot Dogs, "Say What You Mean", on Argent. (sealed copy on eBay for 5 bucks!!) It's fucking magnificent. Very Big Star-ish, maybe just a cut below Radio City or something. Check out a clip of the Hot Dogs track from the comp, see what you think. I say absolutely buy that comp, I am certainly planning too as soon as I gather a little extra scratch...

Stylez G. White (Stormy Davis), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link

so i lost every word about how much i love chris bell and his solo record to time. it's worth it. chris bell had a gorgeous voice and an even more gorgeous songwriting voice. i have loved the rykodisc re-ish for a long time, please all purchase and listen to itk, u won'g be disappointed. QWORD

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

thankint u for the story elvis telecom, as always

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Speed of Sound!!! so gorgeous. when the marimba comes in, oh man...

There was even a brief period when I preferred Sally Forth. (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 January 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Danver's is kind of awesome

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 16 January 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

what do you all think of the Van Duren LP just reissued by Water? (I like it, but the sticker that compares it to Big Star and Something/Anything renders the bar unreachable)...

henry s, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost
OTM. There aren't many anymore that I know of...one in Tupelo, one on Perkins Rd. in Memphisto...there must be others...

"I Am the Cosmos" is one of the greatest songs ever.

WmC, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

there's the one on Union Ave. i mean, it's basically run-of-the-mill fast food except with that crazy salad bar like an old school Wendy's. but the handful of times I've been in the people that work there are almost comically nice. it's like I walked into 1956, except there are wite kids and black kids working behind the counter together. and I figured it out: the WWII generation are all over that joint in the AM, and those dudes can be pretty hard-core about good service. i don't know if it's a chicken-or-the-egg deal, but the Danver's guys know their demographic and work it.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 16 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Personally I'd like to hear a version of "I Am The Cosmos" that's not so larded with Geoff Emerick's Abbey Road production.

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Mark G, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

$40!!!!!!! ysi pls?

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

my favourite on here is Better Save Yourself. hookier than the more-heralded title track, with a similar melancholic cadence.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 07:28 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

you and your sister just hit me so god damn hard this morning. so so beautiful

dynamicinterface, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

“Plans fail everyday”

calstars, Sunday, 30 July 2023 02:44 (eight months ago) link


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