t/s: todd edwards vs kirk franklin

crazy moves

kirk franklin always wins everything by default because no one else would release an album called 'gospel house nation'

I like how "Looking For You" simultaneously spiritualises and slickens up "Haven't You Heard".

Makes me wanna daaaaaance
Makes me clap my haaaaands
STOMP!

just take it from me
someday we're gonna be free
we've been waiting, Lord, for a night
but the Lord said it's gonna be all right
hallelujah!
I said I'm gonna wait FOR YOU
'cause I know that you're gonna pull ME THROUGH
you're telling me to BE STRONG
cause I know that deliverance is COMING IN

I'm gonna just keep periodically waking this shit up until fools show a little more love to Kirk Franklin

Never heard of him, so where do I start? (The YouTube link from 2007 is gone now...)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032803338_pf.html

This doesn't exactly answer your question but it's interesting

Oh yeah

start here

this one is the one I am listening to every day right now

thx j0hn D

that's for the struggle
that's for the pain
that's for those dark nights

my pleasure!! man just to be open it's a pleasure to be able to share enjoyment of this music w/someone

"Stomp" is an all-time jam imo

I sometimes DJ "Haven't You Heard" into "Looking for You"- I don't think there are many pieces of music that are more joyous than "looking for you", it's kind of outta control

real talk

so last year I'm in a studio, it's toward the end of the session, and I mention how I think kirk franklin is a genius and the guy producing says "i did some work with kirk franklin" and I was like "are you serious, is there anybody you don't know" and he's like "I got the call, he'd heard something I did, we ended up recording a bunch of floor-stomps right in the control room, it was this song called 'kingdom come'" and I'm like WHOA THAT THERE IS MY DAMN JAM MAN

I was so stoked

i have listened to "looking for you" one million times this week

step dance classix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT9nQ4wGVo

Kirk Franklin with a gogo beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjeTbyGDshA

these two dudes are the best two dudes

I need to listen to more of the both of 'em. Don't know their music too well

Rev is correct.

I discovered this recent Edwards track on a 2-step garagey comp last year (it was also nommed I think) and it's brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjHn-HNMhr4

hey Tim could you recommend me a few good 2-Step/UK Garage comps?

i got this recommendation from Tim many moons ago but I have to recommend it b/c it is some of the greatest music on earth

http://www.discogs.com/Shanks-And-Bigfoot-Ayia-Napa-The-Album/release/105924

get thissssss. You will love it

Deej knows what's up.

That one and this one are probably my favorites:
http://www.discogs.com/Artful-Dodger-The-Rewind-The-Sound-Of-UK-Garage/release/112146

Garage Anthems 2005 is great on the poppier end of things

i can recommend some 2step comps but i tend to swing toward things with a some emphasis on speed garage

my #1 recommendation

my #2 recommendation

my #3 recommendation

I was the only person to vote for "Head Held High" in the eoy poll :(

It's even more remarkable knowing the song it's based on.

Rev did you download the comps I posted to this thread last year?

I dled Sound of the Pirates

I will come back soon with more comps.

Can I just:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS_G-wUxtA

oh god

hard drive death => entire todd the godd collection gone. and that shit was hard to track down :(

In case you were wondering how much Kirk Franklin sometimes gets paid:

According to documents obtained by The Washington Post, the event’s $250,000 budget included nearly $80,000 to pay costs associated with a performance by gospel musician Kirk Franklin. Franklin traveled to the District with a 16-person entourage, including backup singers, according to budget documents.

In addition to Franklin’s $55,000 booking fee, city taxpayers spent $8,758 for airfare, $1,557 for his limousine and $8,721 to put Franklin and his entourage up at the JW Marriott hotel in Washington, including $2,600 for Franklin’s VIP suite. Records attributed $4,215 in food and beverage costs to the entourage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-council-poised-to-increase-spending-on-2014-emancipation-day-celebration/2013/05/14/8f2573e2-bcd1-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_story.html

Kirk Franklin's new album is called Losing My Religion. The title cut is a recited poem with no music.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/losing-my-religion-lyrics-kirk-franklin.html

I get really wound up about evangelical insistence that they're not religious because the trappings of religion don't square with Christ's ministry

still stoked for a new Kirk Franklin album though

I am too. But was not aware of the following-- he's getting flack for prior homophobia and for his apologies

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-sosa/no-kirk-franklin-i-dont-a_b_8611394.html

#NotAllChurches

OH OH

OH OH OH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkDqMs0mFU

tony humphries played "looking for you" when i saw him this summer

if you click through to the grio article about franklin's apology for the church's approach to LGBTQ ppl he really does seem to've come around imo

Pretty sure that the Christian disavowal of religion isn't only evangelical phenomenon.

Don't know why I was disappointed when I first found out looking for you was a sample. Think I irrationally held gospel music to a different standard with that shit

chance the rapper brought kirk franklin on stage at pitchfork this summer as a surprise guest and he did a mini-set that included "looking for you", it was the best

From freelancer's Washington Post review of Kirk Franklin gig at 2,000 seat Warner Theatre in DC

Never one to mince words, Franklin poked fun at his status as gospel’s black sheep throughout the show and faced his latest controversy head-on. He altered the lyrics of the rallying “Give Me” to include the line “If we humble ourselves, anyone can be saved, even Kanye,” referring to his recent collaboration with the often-criticized Kanye West and subsequent defense of the rapper. On Instagram, a portion of the caption on a photo of the two read, “To a lot of my Christian family, I’m sorry he’s not good enough, Christian enough, or running at your pace.”

....
Franklin dotted the night with lighthearted jokes and playfully directed his live band and dependable choir, the audience, as he ran through his catalogue of seemingly endless gospel hits. At moments, the blink-and-miss-it snippets of songs felt like a tease, but doing justice to 23 years of music in two hours would otherwise be an impossible task.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/kirk-franklin-brings-the-gospel-music-and-an-electric-party-too/2016/03/20/e59beace-ee8f-11e5-a2a3-d4e9697917d1_story.html

Same freelancer on Kirk Franklin's influence on Chance the Rapper

http://www.thefader.com/2016/05/19/kirk-franklin-gospel-hip-hop-chance-the-rapper

And now Caramanica talking to Franklin re Chance and Kanye and the president-elect

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/arts/music/kirk-franklin-kanye-west-chance-the-rapper-interview.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Music®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/15/entertainment/kirk-franklin-cursing-apology-trnd/index.html

todd edwards still rules. also seems like a genuinely cool, non-abusive individual.

https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/toddedwards050321