Beach Boys solo albums

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According to Heroes and Villains (which I finished recently oh man teh lolz) both Carl Wilson and Mike Love released solo albums... has anybody ever heard these? I'd never even heard OF them before... obviously I don't expect either to be a patch on Dennis' "Pacific Ocean Blue" or even the first Brian Wilson solo album but I am curious as to what they're like/how bad they are...

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Looking Back With Love

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Carl Wilson's self-titled debut

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Youngblood

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha wtf a song called "The Grammy"

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Holy moley, clicking on the Looking Back With Love link tells me this:

Producer Curt Boettcher/Brian Wilson

I saw a TV studio performance of the title track and it was Mike Love at his most unctuous. But this makes me wonder, is the record itself any good? What's the story?

dad a, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Jeez, what a bunch of hokey covers Mike Love has on his album. I wouldn't mind hearing his take on "On And On And On" but the thought of him whining through "Teach Me Tonight" - yuck!

everything, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Boettcher --

He also produced Mike Love's solo album Looking Back With Love, which many Beach Boys fans regard as the worst album ever associated with the group.

dad a, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw some Carl solo footage from the early '80s. It was funky pop-rock mildly coked out, midly new wave, and totally post-Fleetwood Mac LA. I've always wanted to hear the record above. But something tells me Dennis rules the Beach Boys solo sweepstakes.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Al Jardine is currently recording his solo debut.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I recently picked up Bruce Johnston's "Going Public" LP (at a deep discount, of course)...it's not too bad as far as late-70's SoCal soft-rock goes..."Disney Girls" is the highlight, of course, but the disco versions of "Pipeline" are also pretty great...(his rendition of his own "I Write The Songs", however, is pretty grate)...

henry s, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Carl Wilson on TV 1981

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

is this what yr referring to, Quantum?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I believe so, Shakey. It might have been the other song they played on that episode (the one where Carl used electric guitar). But yeah, I remember that white tie/black shirt outifit.

That's not a bad song. It reminds me a little bit of of Rick Nelson, who also did an album around that same time, 1981, where he also swtiched to wearing satin.

I love all the Beach Boys' voices, but Carl's will always be my fave.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, don't forget blondie chaplin (blondie who?)
http://www.blondiechaplin.com/default_in.html

gershy, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link

okay. but what do you think of his solo albums?

i have to reinvestigate his debut from the '70s. i haven't heard that in years.

QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 07:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I can't find the thread where Brian Wilson's production work was under discussion so I'll just post this here... I just got this and it's pretty great, although no "Surf City" = teh sadness.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

has anyone heard the American Spring album...? Was surprised to hear their re-work of Dennis' "Lady" on this comp.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Sacramento - Gary Usher

^^^hotness^^^

chaki, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a soft spot for cheesy 60s-70s tunes about relatively obscure California towns (Sausalito, Sacramento, Lodi, San Jose, etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Glen Campbell-Guess I'm Dumb on Shindig

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 22 October 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

hmmm

the Fataar/Chapin stuff on the BBs records is really great, always been curious about this one.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Where can I get a Brian version of Guess I'm Dumb?

:O (wilter), Monday, 15 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

oh I also found the American Spring LP awhile ago - some recycled material (the aforementioned Lady, a different song that lifts the melody from Darling, etc.) Surprisingly great version of the Tenessee Waltz.

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Where can I get a Brian version of Guess I'm Dumb?

wasn't aware there was one...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah I was just wondering.

:O (wilter), Monday, 15 December 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

..becuz that would be sweet.

:O (wilter), Monday, 15 December 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

looks like there's a version on one of these

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

thankig u!

:O (wilter), Monday, 15 December 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not sure when any of that stuff is from

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Sweet Insanity was a late 80s/early 90s project I think

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

yuh it could be shite. But I've always thought it would sound great with Brian actually singing it.

lol xp

:O (wilter), Monday, 15 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

whoah this Flames album is amazing!! Way better than it has any right to be. Genuinely surprised. Scott Seward needs to hear this asap...

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Look forward to listening to it!

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I found the American Spring album to sound like a bunch of demos with very poor vocals.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

aw I think it has its moments. Agree that the Rovell sisters are pretty weak singers tho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Shyin Away is pretty goddamn catchy

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Carl's solo album is being re released with new liners in a few weeks

Cory Sklar, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

which one? what I heard was not good

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

young blood?

he should have made it jung blood, a concept album about carl jung's theories of consciousness

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

my problem w Carl's solo stuff was primarily that it has these R&B female backing vox all over it and then Carl singing lead over some p limp compositions. not playing to his strengths or using his voice well.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

well, if he was a musical visionary, his name would be brian

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

huh y'know these youtubez of youngblood actually sound better than I remember. Maybe it was the other solo album I heard? Still not great, but not terrible either.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

i've tried a few times w/ carl's solo records but they always seemed pretty dull.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

agreed. not sure what to attribute it to really, he delivered plenty of times on BB records - but the early 80s were just grim for the boys all around

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

it's really heartwarming that he came back strong a few years ago to write that book on celine dion

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

on the same tip it's great that mike love has reinvented himself as a reggae guy these days
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5417e2a2e4b0b0c7bc717193/54187a00e4b0d3ebd3eea02c/54187b0ae4b0167dcbb1afdf/1410890509290/jah-frontpage.jpg?format=1000w

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

i read that as, "why does jah keep pestering me?"

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

Not a BB solo album per se but the Ricci Martin album, Beached, from 1977 is produced by Carl and Billy Hinsche, features a lot of Carl and various BB associates on it, some nice tunes and a really good production. Here's a nice, if perhaps overly glowing write-up on it:

Friday, August 2, 2013
A Great Lost Pop Album-Ricci Martin's Beached (Produced by Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche) by Peter Reum

Ricci Martin is Dean Martin's son, and younger brother of Dino Martin of Dino, Desi, and Billy. Not coincidentally, Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche produced this album. Of course, Carl married Ricci and Dino's sister Gina later in the Eighties. The first indication that there might be an album was when Ricci's single Stop Look Around came out on Capitol. The single did not sell. The album was optioned by CBS/Epic, and was released in 1976 on the Epic label. The Stop Look Around/Moonbeams 45 was released. The album was a beautiful oasis of sophisticated pop rock at a time when radio was a mishmash of proto disco, guitar rock, and silly slop.

What made the album special? Well, for one thing, it was beautifully arranged. The songs are catchy, well performed, and need no "tricks" to make them listenable. The backing vocals, by Carl Wilson, Peter Cetera, Gerry Beckley, Bobby Figueroa, Billy Hinsche, and Ricci himself, are immaculate. The credits read like a who's who of the Beach Boys/Chicago crowd from 1975. What I loved about the album when I played it in-store back in the Seventies was that people would come in grumpy and out of sorts, and leave in a great mood, even if they didn't buy the album. The album got lots of play along the Front Range of Colorado, and I heard on Denver, Boulder, and Ft. Collins stations.

The backing tracks here are so easy, so tasteful. Billy and Van Dyke Parks contribute synthesizer, and Carl plays mellotron. Dennis Wilson, Ricky Fataar, Ed Teduri, and Ricci himself drum. A marvelous highlight besides the aforementioned tracks is Spark of Me, which begins with some piano by Ricci, then goes into a gorgeous, understated piano/drum based track. Choruses add synthesizer, strings, and mellotron. There is a beautiful change of tempo and modulation on the bridge. Truly a wonderful, moody, yet reassuring love song. Brass by Chicago's horn section add stunning beauty to Street of Love, another slow to mid tempo tune that is incredible. The drums here sound like Dennis. Strings add a flavor of hope, and clarinets add a dash of irony. This is love, Mid Seventies American Style.

A Carl Wilson/Ricci Martin co-written song, Everybody Knows My Name is a catchy tune that probably feels the most like a Beach Boys song on the record. The horns come in midway, and follow the lead vocal. Backing vocals are what one might imagine a Beach Boys song would sound like in 1975, had they recorded and finished songs during that time. Belle of the Ball is built around a riff that is begging for Chicago to record it. The tune is something that would be easy for that group to pull off. In the place of horns, Carl, Billy, and Ricci decided to add vocals and a tasty synthesizer line.

My Old Radio recalls the Fifties, and drips of nostalgia without sounding overly silly. Precious Love is a tune that asks "what happened" that caused a relationship to end. Sleigh bells and phased guitar make a cameo on the song's bridge, and backing vocals are heavenly. Perhaps there is a little too much synthesizer on that track. I Don't Like It is a tune that tends to bemoan being out of love, yet also allows the singer to rationalize by saying "it's ok to be alone." I Had a Dream has somewhat of a minor key feel to it, which is piano based, and which is a piece of classic pop. It seems to address a person who is in a state of either madness, or emotional disturbance. It is a great song, and stands out as the best tune on what was the second side of the album.

Here I Go Again is the album's final song, and is fairly understated. I can hear Van Dyke Parks here, using the synthesizer to sound like an accordian. It's a brief slice of pop that begs to be a minute longer. It is a terrific sketch of a tune. The album as issued in Japan on cd offers the single mixes of Stop Look Around and Moonbeams. This mix of Stop Look Around has Carl and Billy prominent on backing vocals. Moonbeams is more understated in the single mix. It is one of those songs you could swear you have heard before because it is so accessible and catchy.The fade from the single is bizarre, but that isn't Ricci's fault.

So there it is, an album that is classic pop rock, recorded at Brother Studio, probably in 1975 and early 1976. Lots of Beach Boys, lots of Chicago, several Beach Boys Band members on board, and the best of LA's sessions players of the time. I have waited many years to get the cd, and it doesn't dissapoint. If you are still into vinyl, the album is relatively easy to find, especially online. Don't miss it, and thanks Ricci! I am glad to hear your work again....

Text copyright 2013 by Peter Reum-All Rights Reserved

http://peternreum.blogspot.com/2013/08/a-great-lost-pop-album-ricci-martins.html?m=1

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:52 (eight years ago) link

man am i laughing at that 'mike love' cover

soyrev, Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:55 (eight years ago) link

jah needs to give mike some space

soyrev, Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:56 (eight years ago) link

Talk about a weirdo

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:58 (eight years ago) link

http://www.beachboys.com/mikelove.jpg

ufo, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link

"Lots of Beach Boys, lots of Chicago, several Beach Boys Band members on board, and the best of LA's sessions players of the time. I have waited many years to get the cd, and it doesn't dissapoint."

I love how earnest beach boys fans are.

skip, Thursday, 9 July 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link

whoops just saw the post upthread sorry

Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

so uh mike love not war unleash the love is now available for your listening pleasure

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvRRaqL2VXRU8djMHRWTCJJZhX2E-rfgQ

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link

always excited by a chaki beach boys thread revive

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:08 (eight years ago) link

first track delivers the expected mix of shitty 90s "funk" drum loops, pathetically limited vocals, terrible instrumentation, and dopey lyrics

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link

second track opens with some nice a cappela harmonies at least

will anything on this album be as good as "Wrinkles" though?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link

pls keep liveblogging mike love not war

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:12 (eight years ago) link

Pisces Brothers includes a devotional chant to his favorite hats

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link

lollll

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:34 (eight years ago) link

if you need a palette cleanse after this, listen to this 1971 show its really great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk5ZXhVWQGA&list=PLvRRaqL2VXRW35IYlQi9te5RezGC_tSN7&index=14

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 11 February 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link

lol why'd he rerecord brian's back in 2007?!

new noise, Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:35 (eight years ago) link

because that song is a beloved timeless classic, that's why!!!

tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

and that's the year he lost (another) lawsuit against brian.

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Brian's Back (Hand Me That Dagger)

Demeraray & Essequebo (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

10,000 Years ago features a banging breakbeat underneath a scorching electric guitar solo and a sing-song rap from Mike about surfing Lemurians

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

Too Cruel is a Dave Mathews-style "funky" acoustic guitar number featuring Mike's son Christian Love on lead vocals, which goes into a sad reggae sort of rhythm on the choruses. Lyrics detail Mike's frustration with Murry Wilson's business practices.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

first track delivers the expected mix of shitty 90s "funk" drum loops, pathetically limited vocals, terrible instrumentation, and dopey lyrics

I was going to try to summarize this track but you did it so well!

skip, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Mike Love does Dionne Farris

skip, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

(But not like THAT)

skip, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Cool Head, Warm Heart - sounds like scrapped session material from Summer in Paradise (which I actually kind of like.... :X). I bet Mike thought this was a real jam when he was recording it.

Anything for You - I thought Mike Love hated Love You?

Pisces Brothers - Barf. Happy birthhhhhhhhh-days back in time. Rewrite lyrics. Then he sings about the maharishi....okay, skipping the rest of this one

Everyone's in Love with You - coming from Mike Love, this is a gross title because you know he's singing about some chick who's 1/3 his age. Atrocious synths and surprisingly low key. Get Mike a cup of coffee.

10000 Years Ago - Mike Love does Funkadelic. Or is it Savage Garden? "Ohm, shantih shantih" - WTF.

Glow Crescent Glow - zzzzzzzzzz

Too Cruel - more anachronistic '90s drum loops and reggae sounds though quite a decent groove as it is sung by his son. Fun fact: Christian Love wears a hat too: http://www.dahoovsplace.com/Events/Concerts/BeachBoys/ChristianLoveGuitarist7.jpg

Brian's Back - not any more he's not

I Don't Wanna Know - sounds kind of like Fastball, or Carl Wilson. It sounds like they picked up their backup instruments at a church that went out of business.

Love Foundation - terrible lukewarm pap

Only One World - this would be impressive if it had been written by a nine-year-old

Main takeaway: Christian Love is kind of a good singer?

skip, Monday, 15 February 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Everyone's in Love with You - coming from Mike Love, this is a gross title because you know he's singing about some chick who's 1/3 his age. Atrocious synths and surprisingly low key. Get Mike a cup of coffee.

He re-recorded this? Jeeeeeee...

posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

from the Mike Love Discography web page. A list of the last Mike Love singles in chronological order:

1983: "Jingle Bell Rock" (with Dean Torrence)
2006: "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo"
2007: "Hungry Heart"
2015: "(You'll Never Be) Alone on Christmas Day"

posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

Three Christmas songs and a Springsteen cover. Nicely done.

doug watson, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lxGstAel7c

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link


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