Techno/House Bobbins of the past

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

second one is m4a btw

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqmLACQ0pQU

Previously mysterious instagram appearing/disappearing sound now on YouTube but what is it they say?

Allen Saei (better known as Aubrey) - Evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8MJ1c_wWc

aubrey so good, master of toms and other underused drums

i recently got a couple of aubrey records, iirc this one is from the mnml era and sort of uncharacteristic. reminds me of weirdo classix like low res - amuk

plural - shifting forward (aubrey rmx)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBXZR0WJgkU

also got this amazing 94 ep, full of youth and vigor. it’s on a label mostly associated with darren price so proggier and more upfront than you might expect. i think i posted this already but …

aubrey - headhunter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JMgwcaXzeE

Stirmonster, just catching up...

that Ministry of Fear Track with No Name had me racking my brain for the sample, The Prince and the Wizard, The Wiz is a Genius. And the Euphoria vocal is Torch Song. Awesome.

I love Gianelli stuff. Always struck a chord even before I knew who he was. His Psychic TV stuff was some of my first introduction to "techno" and "house", gateway from industrial. Then in college we used to get the Telepathic releases as part of a radio promo service with plus 8/probe and others like that.

Now I follow him on facebook, and his "genesis p orridge survivors group" which is...interesting.

There is a new comp out called Happy Land which is v nice indeed. Early-mid 90s UK miscellaneous dance towards the more experimental side of things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjgovTZjYCI

https://aboveboardprojects.bandcamp.com/album/happy-land

Was thinking Ultramarine would be on there with that title

Discovering stuff from Fred Gianelli’s and Telepathic’s back catalogues has been one the best past-bobbins sources for me in the last year.

Also learned of this comp today: https://soundmetaphorsrecords.bandcamp.com/album/gonzo-goa-party-music-87-94

ah yes very good. sound metaphors is an excellent label. always been annoying to me that warp left the fuse track off “10+2 classics”.

above board projects also do a great job. i’ll probably skip that one but it’s nice to see the xeper track and it makes me hopeful that warp might finally manage some black dog productions reissues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHTfYOvuCak

Neil Trix - Context (Hardleaders, 2000)

For unexpected magic play at 0.75 speed on youtube

X post. Ah yes, of course that is the sample source, Dan!

And you are right, Fred G is fairly obsessed with GPO and his time in PTV which sounds deeply traumatic. I know Fred a wee bit and can vouch that he is a lovely human being. Lots of great Telepathic releases. “Acid Didj” is an all time fave / floor clearer. Also his Kooky Scientist alter ego.

Seeing that group after reading Cosey's book def doesn't paint a great picture of GPO. ON the other hand I know a whole slew of people, ny music scene people who were very much in GPO's orbit and looked towards him as a real mentor, so who am I to say. Cosey's book was pretty damning though.

I think she had to hold back on some stuff that was worse than anything that was revealed in the book. Fred's tales are pretty horrific too.

i do find it hard to listen to a lot of stuff Gen was involved with and really can't ever imagine listening to Persuasion again without feeling extremely uncomfortable. But, early PTV is pretty totemic for me so I'm still conflicted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwzTpCGLchs

Daren Ager - Summer in Detroit (Live mix)

2007 emx outing from inside the UK

:o

https://safetrip.bandcamp.com/album/welcome-to-paradise-89-93-vol-1

that compilation is absolutely amazing

Speaking of early Goa party music, Finnish DJ Lupu has a couple mixes online of mid-to-late 80s-early 90s tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiFY7rCjJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2DGaT9DeeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did2EETaRdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auP_y6BA5Q

Take Six - Mr. Lucky (1980)

deckchairs out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxZOTTHa_U

The Persuader - Sun Position (2013)

This is nice, very much his sound though I've not heard anything from this time before

I enjoy all eras of The Persuader

This is one from around that time, and that sound, that I like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrMp-lQSRb4

A few I've had on repeat lately:

Tim Deluxe - Transformation (this was probably a real big tune? sounds familiar but I wasn't really paying attention at the time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgY-kTPY3Q

Audio Werner - Trust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOUmXb3oLA

love those drums

lol @ me posting the wrong video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAA3lKNqZHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rg-ywhxwo

Jedeye - Dream House (1999)

I came across this unknown Auckland NZ gem recently, its so reminiscent of something but can't think what. There's an album but this one is the stand out

i have this memory of starting a thread called "fake basic channel" or "best tracks not by maurizio" but i can't find it. if i could i would post this there

the otisbros - 4th of july (down mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C36MtidluU

not this thread (iirc i posted yellow sox "flim flam" to it) but similar in intent: house tracks that owe a huge debt to basic channel

i am sorry to report that my explorations into late pre millenial breaks music have taken me to dark places

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAJ7CDEQi0

song really does what it says on the tin, right? every time you think "wow that's a really shitty sample" dj who rolls up with an even shittier one

if he can stretch that bs to 7.5 mins should be easy for someone to do a similar job on zomby's "need ur lovin", still surprised nobody has done yet done a bootleg edit of that one, would think it would be a no brainer in our current era

or get mike parker to do it, the other reason i've been checking out old defective records (a lot of them are bad!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1dT8le2yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BstZhHu-oIU

"resonator one" and his "give a little more" remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UDcHANVvLM

Miguel Migs - Petalpushing(Ian Pooley Dub 1) (2005)

flying thru preseason with Kim Carnes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODOX0WDMLU

Ten City - All Loved Out Ilù 'Ife (Love Drum) (1997)

Joe Claussell mix I'd never heard before, softly playing to a completely deserted cafe's backyard

outstanding

aarhus sound represent, I love this label

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tv2fzzutkU

that’s lush as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6mgqSP4pKU

not really the right tempo but I love this Hi Mount one from yesteryear, Erika De Casier on vocals too

aarhus sound represent, I love this label

That Club V-Bee 12 is top bins, best on the label or from that scene by far!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUZ75WqkU0

Fries & Bridges - It Dont Stop (2002)

back garden bonanza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bC1DmOUufU

Sharon S - Wonderful (Instrumental Deep Dub) (1993)

Delightful Italian dream - seems to have been on quite a few "Best of Dance" type compilations but no mixes

Robin's distant european cousing?

Italo House project of Bini/Perniola (AKA Fathers Of Sound) with an uncredited Sharon May Linn performance on vocals. 'Sharon S' was apparently a blink to Robin S., very popular back then.

Apparently so! Although I am slightly confused how Sharon is uncredited when the record is in her name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qODwX1JmGv4

Moonchildren - Beyond Love (1998)

Chris Gray is often a touch understated for me but when it comes together like this one, untouchable

I have an affection for this sound, had never heard this track until today, at least consciously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxTZB5i96oA

don’t really know what to say about this except it’s some very nice deep funky business, tom churchill - “personal interpretation”, from 1998 on headspace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dr86kAStu8

Tom Churchill really hit the heights on a number of occasions round that time period

Wide Open is another one, though not on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGUAIa9bwo

Ascendant is though

Dj Duke - Rock Da Techfunk (Techfunkers Remix) 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ww6AMzoP0

bought without knowing the tunes cuz i’ve enjoyed some dj duke over the years. this is breakier than what i usually go for, but it took me on a nice journey tonight.

Sounds more 88 than 96. Was going to say it should be on Cutting before I noticed all the Hashim samples. Smokin' Records too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy5KTWDyKGw

Mental Cube - Q ( Original Mix ) 1991

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iykvtX_ptyg

Kurupt - C Walk (1998)

crisp and autumnal

I like this expansive definition of 'bobbins' that includes the C-Walk.

No expansive only core

Psychedelic Research Lab - Taraneh (Spy's Sub Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoc38QTzvw