Don't Say That You Love Me: The TUSK Poll.

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This is the thread where we talk about Tusk some more, with convenient polling options.

My favorite side is side 4, but I am not sure what the best track is.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
19. Tusk 9
8. That's All For Everyone 8
15. I Know I'm Not Wrong 6
2. The Ledge 4
5. Sara (Edit) 4
6. What Makes You Think You're The One 3
18. Walk A Thin Line 3
17. Beautiful Child 3
1. Over And Over 2
16. Honey Hi 2
7. Storms 2
10. Sisters Of The Moon 1
13. Brown Eyes 1
14. Never Make Me Cry 0
12. That's Enough For Me 0
11. Angel 0
9. Not That Funny 0
4. Save Me A Place 0
3. Think About Me 0
20. Never Forget0


ian, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The Ledge, of course.

our work is never over, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Best song on "Tusk" - Fleetwood Nac

Zeno, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

damnit, that's what i get for searching for "tusk poll" instead of just tusk fleetwood.

mods feel free to delete.

ian, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck it. i forgot what i voted for last time, but i know it was a tough choice

carne asada, Friday, 2 May 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL ian. you were on that other thread

carne asada, Saturday, 3 May 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

This is always some random shit but I like to make sure that "I Know I'm Not Wrong" gets a vote.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 3 May 2008 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

it is clearly the sweep that runs from 14 --> 18, other poll results be damned.

remy bean, Saturday, 3 May 2008 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

eh, 16-20, really IMHO.

ian, Saturday, 3 May 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

(aka side 4)

ian, Saturday, 3 May 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"What Makes You Think You're The One"

Euler, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I love it when we end up redoing polls that I don't even remember us doing the first time.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe a mod could retitle this thread "Just Tell Me That You Want Me: The TUSK Recount!"

ian, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

my answer stays the same as in the first poll. i know im not wrong.

Zeno, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

hahah

"NEVER FORGET"

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 3 May 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"Brown Eyes" this time. The McVie tracks need more love, ie votes.

DavidM, Saturday, 3 May 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah. I want to see at least three votes for "Never Make Me Cry". You know McVie is the queen of this band.

But if you just can't help yourself and you have to play "Sara" again, I understand.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Also I love that fucking witchy shit from Ms. Nicks - "Sisters Of The Moon"

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Beautiful Child - but ARGHHH, this is so arbitrary, they're almost all candidates

iago g., Monday, 5 May 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

oh fucking hell I have still never heard this. where is my credit card? where is my wife's credit card?

Thomas, Monday, 5 May 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhaha Talking Heads "where is my beautiful wife?" hahah

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 5 May 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

want to vote for all

max, Monday, 5 May 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

title track is dope

max, Monday, 5 May 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Ledge" for me thanx

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"That's All For Everyone"

Joe, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

My adoration for "Over and Over" is unwavering. I've also been spinning "Brown Eyes" and "What Makes You Think You're The One?" a lot these days.

I would like to retract any comments I made on the previous thread about the superiority of certain Camper Van Beethoven versions of the songs over the originals. I was so, so wrong.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"walk a thin line" got fucking robbed in the last poll.

ian, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I vote 15-20.

Steve Shasta, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"walk a thin line" got fucking robbed in the last poll.

-- ian, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:33 (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yes.

caek, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"walk a thin line" got fucking robbed in the last poll.

-- ian, Monday, May 5, 2008 5:33 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

truth xp

deeznuts, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Good thing I voted for it in this one.

Trip Maker, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I've seen so many things that made me wonder
But sometimes its hard to tell
I said
"Take your time"
But no one was listening
I walk a thin line

They told me that I never would recover
Still some say they knew me well
I said
"Stay by my side"
But no one said nothin'
I walk a thin line

I said
"Please toe the line"
But no one was listening
I walk a thin line

I said
"Fate takes time"
But no one was listening
I walk a thin line

Steve Shasta, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 5 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Somewhat disappointingly, I do not get the love for The Ledge.

ledge, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Missed my chance to vote for "Think About Me". Rats.

matinee, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i) 4 people commented that 'walk a thin line' is deserving of a vote
ii) 3 people voted for 'walk a thin line'
iii) the title track ends up with the most votes

conclusion: ilm is lazy fukk this poll

deeznuts, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to the roughs and demos on disc two, starting to think that I Know I'm Not Wrong really could have had a much better mix for the album.

matinee, Sunday, 2 August 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

11. Angel 0
9. Not That Funny 0
4. Save Me A Place 0
3. Think About Me 0
20. Never Forget 0

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 2 August 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ilxpaws

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 2 August 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

could say that about almost any track tbh xp, but then you'd have an entirely different album. Not 'Sisters of the Moon' though, the production there could not have been improved upon.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 2 August 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

well, I know I'm Not Wrong strikes me especially because the big hook in that song is totally covered up in the mix (compare with track five of the demos disc). you just get a hint of it and then for some reason Buckingham decides to get all Glenn Gould and cover it up even more with some lackluster scatting

matinee, Sunday, 2 August 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I only started loving "Never Forget" when Cut Copy included it on their mix last summer.

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 August 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I already loved it to bits but I had a newfound respect for Cut Copy after that particular trick.

Tim F, Monday, 3 August 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Piss -- if I'd seen this, I woulda put "That's All For Everyone" into a tie for first.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 August 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

You guys I am ashamed that it has taken me until November of 2010 to hear this entire album. Thanking you Half Price Books for the $2 vinyl copy.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Well? Thoughts?

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Well I'm only just starting side 3, but this is really amazing. I grew up with parents playing Rumors and later a greatest hits thing, so I'd kinda always thought I'd heard all the Mac I'd ever need. I WAS WRONG. This is great great. Loving "What Makes You Think You're the One" so much right now.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Also "Not That Funny", great song.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just now coming to this album too. I love the use of alternating wide open spaces and claustrophobic sound spatialization in the production. "Walk a Thin Line" is the sound of driving home at 4 AM and trying not to asleep at the wheel.

the coffee of coffees (corey), Monday, 22 November 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the everything on "brown eyes"

ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 30 May 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

This album has gone from being the underrated follow-up to Rumours to quite possibly being in danger of being one of the most overrated records ever. On here, at least, and I love the record.

Turrican, Monday, 30 May 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

danger!

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 30 May 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

nah it's the best record ever made

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

overrated = the exasperated hail mary pass of self-important arbiters of artistic quality

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 30 May 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

I'm confused here - did I not say I love the record?

And yes, it's a great record - well-performed, mostly well-written and impeccably produced. There's a lot to love and admire about it. On the other hand, it isn't completely devoid of filler, the Lindsay tracks aren't really as "out there" as some would have you believe, and I do think it's a record that, as great as it is, does get some over-the-top praise. Good record, though.

Turrican, Monday, 30 May 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

74. "Brown Eyes" and "Never Make Me Cry" are really the same song: the first relating the onset of a desire that can only lead to danger, the second the devastating results.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, March 17, 2006 3:41 PM (10 years ago)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 May 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

at any rate I'm glad the proto-Balearic bliss of Tango has replaced Tusk as the Mac album du jour.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 May 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

"filler" is another problematic one.. i know what you mean, stuff like "that's enough for me" is underdeveloped and 'tossed off'-sounding. it's still better than frickin "don't stop". incidentally, christine's songs on tusk are much greater than christine's songs on rumours ("you make loving fun" excepted, of course). all imo, of course. signed, self-important arbiter of artistic quality

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 30 May 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Mirage is now the underrated album of the Buckingham era, though it is not as strong as Tusk.

I agree that McVie's songs are Tusk's secret weapon - each one is a classic.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

with our powers combined this summer, Tim, we'll change this state of affairs.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

i saw this in a record store last week: http://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/8342

Tusk's stature has really risen even in the last three years. Not a forgotten album at all anymore. I feel like it's about as well known as Rumours at this point. No filler on it. The underdeveloped experiments and the band's ability to stretch out are what make it great.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

Three years?! More like twelve at least. Check out the number of ILM threads.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link

You're right. I feel like we've reached peak Tusk though.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

'Honey Hi' is shite, though - nowhere near the level of McVie's songs on Rumours, definitely not a classic and the very definition of filler. So there's three theories debunked right off the bat.

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link

*shakes head*

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

wow that may be your worst opinion turrican

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

oh look turrican is taking a brave stand again

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

this is the most mind-bendingly WTF poll I've encountered here. these results makes more sense read from bottom to top than top to bottom for me.

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm not fond of "Honey Hi" either *raises chin defiantly*

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:18 (seven years ago) link

Do you like Haim's rip off tho Alf?

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

yes!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link

"Honey Hi" sounds like waking up refreshed and in love with somebody

Love the Haim ripoff too, especially the "I'm not afraid no more" part

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link

xxxxpost:

Well, if you truly believe that it's a better composition/song than 'Don't Stop', 'Songbird' or even 'Oh Daddy' (which is my least favourite song on Rumours by some considerable distance) then, y'know, you're entitled to think that, as utterly batshit as that stance is. Nobody, absolutely nobody sees a copy of Tusk and thinks "fuck me! I just have to listen to 'Honey Hi'"! 'Sara', undoubtedly. 'Walk A Thin Line', 'That's All For Everyone' ... yeah, I could see it. 'Honey Hi'? No fucking way. Inessential, airy fluff at best.

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:29 (seven years ago) link

0 votes for 'Think About Me' ... what's that all about, then? It's McVie's second best song on the record after 'Over and Over'

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

"Airy fluff", yes - done perfectly.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

"Honey Hi" sounds like waking up refreshed and in love with somebody

also known in physics textbooks as the McVie Dictum

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

McVie's tracks on Tango In The Night, though, are mostly awesome. Trying to imagine that record without 'Little Lies' and 'Everywhere' is just impossible.

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

As for underrated Mac albums, then Bare Trees would be my pick. I've always thought that one deserves more attention than it gets.

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

Zero votes for Never Forget is a sin

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link

this is the most mind-bendingly WTF poll I've encountered here. these results makes more sense read from bottom to top than top to bottom for me.

― rip van wanko, Monday, May 30, 2016 9:17 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

THIS. How the hell did "Think About Me," "Not That Funny," and "Save Me A Place" for chrissakes get ZERO VOTES??!!

Also, "Sara" is great but "Storms" is superior in every way

ILM u mad

Wimmels, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

Also this is a front-loaded album if ever there was one. I pretty much tune out after "Sisters," though I usually skip ahead and jam "Walk A Thin Line," which is beautiful

Wimmels, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link

the idea that any McVie track on Tusk is worse than "Oh Daddy" hurts my brain

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 02:21 (seven years ago) link

Fuck, I meant Walk a Thin Line, which did fine! Sorry...

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

Also, "Sara" is great but "Storms" is superior in every way

thinking about these songs in this way misses the point of both I think. "storms" is a gorgeous, sad ballad. "sara" is a miraculous structure

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link

"Honey Hi" rules. Great circular chord changes. Wonderful rocking chair of a song

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link

protip for life--listen to honey hi first thing in the morning and u will have a mellow-ass day

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pacific distances (sciatica), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

speaking of mellow, "Over and Over" is a shot of pure uncut heroin str8 into the mainline. How is this a perennial front runner in "best album opener" discussions, but places in the middle of the pack here?

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

worst poll

Wimmels, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

yeah i mean 'Tusk' is easily the worst song on the album

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Wait there, Tusk song is a restless volcano. Do not diss it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

'Tusk' is great and you're wrong. Although OTM about 'Honey Hi' being "rocking chair" music, just not in the way that you intended.

Turrican, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

'Tusk' is great but it's my least favorite song on the record. Maybe it's just overexposure. And honestly Lindsey bugs me on that one.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

uuuuunnggggggghhhhh

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

The right answer is beautiful child!

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link

just discovered this album last week. so good.

"Save Me a Place" got robbed.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

fuck i wish i could hear "That's All for Everyone" for the first time again. i completely burned that one out. i think i listened to it 500 times in a single year

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

Insane that "Sisters Of The Moon" only got one vote.

Ross, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Intense silence
as you entered the thread

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

all the various versions of "I Know I'm Not Wrong" on the deluxe set are a pleasure to listen to

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link


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