Do you rate? If so, for cultural impact or listenability? And how much credit do you give Brian Jones?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Brian_jones_joujouka_lp_cover.jpeg.jpg/200px-Brian_jones_joujouka_lp_cover.jpeg.jpg
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
seek ye: Brain Jones' Visit to Jajouka is described by Brion Gysin to Genesis P-Orridge in Paris on the GODSTAR: Thee Director's Cut reish cd. In short, Jones' amorality wrt Joujouka is blessing/curse. As for me, I dig the gonzo artifact of the phasing on side 2, but perhaps better documents of Joujouka exist ... like Laswell-recorded Apocalypse Across the Sky.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
overrated. the laswell one and the ones on sub rosa are much better
― am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.posteverything.com/2005/06/13/10549/sr97_328.jpg
probably repeating myself from other threads but THIS^^^^^^^^^
― am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I really, really like the phasing. I really appreciate Brian Jones, and I like how fucked up he was all the time, and how he added a little bit of that flavor to his ethnomusicological experiemtn. Never heard any other Jojouka recordings. A+
― people explosion, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
not strictly Joujouk, but the Pharoah Sanders collabo with Sufi musicians Trance of Seven Colors is up there with the GREATS OF MUSIC.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
cultural impact-wise as a historical document the jones one is cool. when i heard other recordings i realized the phasing was totally unnecessary and maybe even detracts
not heard the sanders one but i really hated other collabs i've heard (ornette coleman, talvin singh)
― am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
ornette plays over, pharoah plays with
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
the Brian Jones one is the only one (I've heard) that captures that field recording ambience, as if you're overhearing something that's more than a performance. even though it's probably the one that has the most severe post-production collage & layering (that phasing effect was laid on everything pretty hard but it sounds so so so mad)
Laswell one is good, he cuts them into varied shorter songs, but has a good ear for it. I remember not liking the one on Real World, just never caught fire? I like the Sub Rosa one amon linked to -- Sub Rosa put out a new one in 2006 I want to hear: http://joujouka.net/4Store/26/buy-an-advance-copy-of-the-new-boujeloud-cd
when you record music that doesn't want to be recorded, using lo-fi equipment is like you're meeting it halfway -- 'Chechen Zikr 1' mp3
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 June 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
there this too http://www.mysticfire.com/ntsc/76936/76936.html?cart=1126 but i think they might be a different sect
― am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
whole CD as good as that clip?
'cause that's a good clip
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I like this album a lot
― Tom D., Friday, 6 June 2008 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link
from what i can remember yes. i don't have a copy anymore
― am0n, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Master Musicians of Jajouka are playing UCLA on the 6th. Should I grab tickets for this?
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 1 February 2009 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Fuck yeah, why not?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 February 2009 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link
They're coming to DC as well (as part of "Arabesque" Feb. 23 to March 15 festival of Arabic and Middle Eastern and Islamic music)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
FEB 11 Yoshi’s San Francisco, CA Yoshi’sFEB 12 Yoshi’s San Francisco, CA Yoshi’sFEB 14 Amoeba Records** San Francisco, CA Amoeba RecordsFEB 17 Neumo’s Seattle, WA Neumo’sFEB 19 Portland Jazz Festival – Roseland Theater* Portland, OR Roseland TheaterFEB 25 Kennedy Center Arabesque Festival Washington D.C. Kennedy CenterFEB 28 The Knitting Factory New York, NY The Knitting Factory
Those of us in flyover land are screwed, as always.
To the topic, the Brian Jones album really is as neccessary a part of an ethnomusical collection as the Colin Turnbull pygmy recordings. They highlight the influence of the observer/recordist, and preceded just about anything else from Morocco (though I haven't been into the Folkways vault). I happen to like them too, not my preferred Jajouka (that would be the Laswell recorded Apocalypse Across the Sky, which should be canonical for its appropriate application of subtle reverb to correct dry close-recorded digital), but the phasing isn't antithetical to the source material.
― derelict, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I only heard this for the first time in the last year or two (this summer, I think, but this year is getting jumbled in memory) and I love it. I somehow expected that the added studio stuff would turn me off, but it didn't. In fact, it was less omnipresent than expected.
They should come to Albuquerque, they would like it here.
How much credit?
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Going to try to make it to the free Amoeba show on Saturday.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Did you see them. They're appearing for a charge tonight/Wednesday at the Kennedy Center in DC as part of the Arabesque Fest. I saw 'em do 1 long song Monday night as part of a special Arabesque preview night thing for invited guests and press. 4 guys on oboe-like squeeky "ghaita" horns and 4 percussionists making quite a din. Later the group's leader did a solo number on his "ghaita" that had a bit of melody and was quite nice also.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
omg how did I miss all these bay area performances?
― akm, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
new one is blowing my mind:
Recorded live in Joujouka in 2012, Into The Ahl Srif is the first new album of Joujouka material available on vinyl since 1976. Focusing on the trance-inducing ghiata music of the rites of Boujeloud, Into The Ahl Srif eschews the highly edited, special effects approach of Brian Jones Presents The Pipes Of Pan At Joujouka in favor of a raw, untampered transmission. Although preserving the full 90-minute fertility ritual in uninterrupted form would be impossible on any physical sound medium, this LP takes a more thorough look than ever before at this most cacophonous, droning, and deeply psychedelic side of Joujouka's music.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 10:25 (eight years ago) link
Your Eyes Are Like A Cup Of Tea is a great title in itself. I think it was a good track but I haven't listened to it in a while. Must dig out the cd if I've still got it.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link