JOHHNY B. POLLED: chuck berry's great twenty-eight

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
17. Memphis 8
27. No Particular Place to Go 7
5. Brown Eyed Handsome Man 6
4. Too Much Monkey Business 5
1. Maybellene 4
6. Roll over Beethoven 3
2. Thirty Days 3
12. Sweet Little Sixteen 3
26. Nadine 2
13. Johnny B. Goode 2
20. Almost Grown 1
24. I'm Talking About You 1
9. Rock & Roll Music 1
25. Come On 1
23. Bye Bye Johnny 0
22. Let It Rock 0
21. Back in the U.S.A. 0
19. Little Queenie 0
18. Sweet Little Rock & Roller 0
3. You Can't Catch Me 0
7. Havana Moon 0
8. School Days 0
10. Oh Baby Doll 0
11. Reelin' and Rockin' 0
14. Around and Around 0
15. Carol 0
16. Beautiful Delilah 0
28. I Want to Be Your Driver0


tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

greatest american songwriter of the 1950s? yeah, i think so.

almost every choice is an honorable one, but i say "brown eyed handsome man."

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this record so much. I went with "Johnny B. Goode" but I could have gone for any of them, even "Havana Moon".

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

(point of trivia: ilm appears to have more threads dedicated to chuck eddy than chuck berry.)

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Thirty Days because it rocks

caek, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man. Brown Eyed Handsome Man vs. Roll over Beethoven vs. Back in the U.S.A.?

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

"Too Much Monkey Business." Not only is it a fine song, but I can't think of a line of it without thinking about his performance of said lyric. Also, smokin' solo.

DLee, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

CAMPAIGN SHOUTIN' LIKE A SOUTHERN DIPLOMAT

milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The venus DeMio was a beautiful lass, she had the world in the palm of her hand
She lost both her arms in wrestling match over a brown eyed handsome man....

Has to be BEHM, although chuck's finest pair are back to back on St. Louis to Liverpool 'Promised Land and You Never Can Tell'

sonofstan, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Milo deVenus!" Gotta love it.

This is such an incredible greatest hits album that I really don't know where to begin except by flashing on stuff that's not even on it, like "The Broken Arrow" and "You Never Can Tell." The only thing that's really out of place on this for me is "I Wanna Be Your Driver," which felt like filler to me even as a kid. "Havana Moon" is also a minor track but I like it being in there.

* Best overall sound: "Maybellene"
* Best song specifically about rock and roll: "Reelin' and Rockin'"

POV, single lines as sung by Chuck Berry? The man could paint a picture with incredible verbal economy. I nominate:

1. "Want me to marry, get a home, settle down, write a BOOK!"
2. "Jet-propelled back home from overseas to the USA"
3. "Flyin' cross the desert in a TWA, I saw a woman walkin' cross the sands..."
4. "Meanwhile, I was still thinkin'..."
5. "Audience of seventeen and noticed not a one..."

Not including anything from "Nadine" because it would run the category - I mean, check this:

"Downtown, searchin' for her, lookin' all around
saw her gettin' in a yellow cab headin' uptown
I caught a loaded taxi, paid up everybody's tab
Flipped a twenty-dollar bill and told 'em CATCH THAT YELLOW CAB!"

"Nadine" gets my vote in the poll - but close runners-up in "Maybellene," "Roll Over Beethoven," the underrated "Beautiful Delilah" and "Memphis." I could seriously gush about Chuck Berry all day on here.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybelline, narrowly over Memphis

kornrulez6969, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost:

yeah god he's a GREAT singer. massive influence on dylan among others, obviously.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

massive influence on dylan among others, obviously.

huh?

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i've been on a "little queenie" and "let it rock" kick lately.

will, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

huh?

-- Mr. Que

its pretty easy to picture a young dylan nailing 'deep down in lousiana close to new orleans'

deeznuts, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybellene

Tape Store, Monday, 4 August 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

listen to "too much monkey business" back to back with "subterranean homesick blues," for starters.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Torn between monkey business and brown eyed handsome man... and most of the rest. I'm abstaining.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the dylan connection seems fairly clear

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I just learned that his only #1 hit was "My Ding a Ling" which is a perfectly good song, but jeez!

Anyway, Memphis, because corn is delicious.

Oilyrags, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

listen to "too much monkey business" back to back with "subterranean homesick blues," for starters.

that's like one song!

yeah the dylan connection seems fairly clear

i am curious to hear anyone's thoughts on this, i just don't hear it! i think dylan totally has a rock and roll influence but chuck berry specifically, i don't hear

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

when i was at the peak of my chuck berry fandom that fact used to actually depress me (not a good song, btw) xp

you do realize people are talking mostly about vocal intonation/rhythms/flow etc right que, i think its safe to say dylan is somewhat indebted to berry there

deeznuts, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah for another example that "still thinkin'" line quoted above. i mean berry was drawing on blues and jazz singing himself, but he hipped it up in a way that i think has a real direct line to dylan.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently little richard was a bigger influence

http://www.biography.com/broadband/main.do?video=bio-top250-bobdylan-earlyinfluences&category=Musicians

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

little richard i can see

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

and i'm not trying to be argumentative or whatever, i've just never even thought that these two dudes were similar in singing style

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i can believe dylan wanted to be little richard. but vocally, richard's a shouter which dylan isn't (most of the time). where chuck berry perfected a kind of cool, amused patter that i hear a lot of in dylan.

(not that chuck berry's greatness rests on his influence on dylan or anyone else.)

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

why does little richard make sense? i don't see that as clearly. i guess i too was focused on those two songs as well, but i wasn't thinking about singing style, really.

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

more about writing/attitude

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It is "Johnny B Goode". Actually one out of very few so-called "classics" from the 50s rock'n'roll era that deserves the tag. In a way, it is just another boring 12 bar song, but the song is composed so effectively that it gives you a feeling of a verse/chorus build, and you forget the harmonic limitations of the song.

Out of the 50s rockers, only Buddy Holly did this better.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

wow apparently Santana covered "Havana Moon", and even named the album after the song. You can see a live clip from 1983 here (it starts at about the 3:25 mark or so). 3 drummers! Carlos Santana characteristically looks like he's giving birth during the solo.

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

why does little richard make sense? i don't see that as clearly. i guess i too was focused on those two songs as well, but i wasn't thinking about singing style, really.

dylan started out as a piano player, right? i dunno, something about dylan reminds me of little richard's singing (but like tipsy says, without the shouting.)

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

btw I am lolling that anyone covered "Havana Moon", which is the only thing like a dud on the album, I reckon

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf Dylan doesn't sound like Little Richard

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul McCartney sounded a lot like Little Richard when he was at his most boring musically though.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty sure there are plenty of articles and books about how dylan wanted to be little richard growing up back in hibbing

Mr. Que, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Santana characteristically looks like he's giving birth during the solo.

lol

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"Johnny B. Goode" is actually among my least favorites here - I don't know if I've just heard it way way way too many times or if it was just never all that exciting. The "Go, go, go Johnny go" chorus just doesn't have much going on, and in general there's not too much of Chuck's bite and wit in the track. Even the curious sequel song musters more distinctive detail: "She drew out all her money out the Southern Trust / and put her little boy aboard a Greyhound bus" vs "There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood / where lived a country boy named Johnny B. Goode."

There are a lot of these that are really elevated by the little touches in the lyrics/vocals - like how "Thirty Days" is basically "Maybellene" over again except who cares because you get

"'f I don't get no satisfaction from the JUDGE
'm gonna take it to the EFF BEE EYE and voice m' GRUDGE
'f they don't gimme no consolation
I'm'a take it to the United Nations,
I'm'a see that you be back home in thirty days"

So many more! Pretty much every song in this tracklist makes me flash on some great line or other and some of them are just wall-to-wall inventiveness. "You Can't Catch Me" is maybe not his most exciting composition but again, check out the lingo - "Here come ol' flat top" - "Flyin' on the beam set on flight control" - "Custom made, was a Flight de Ville" - "Rollin' slowly cause of drizzlin' showers" - "Bye bye New Jersey I've be-come airborne"...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"Marty, that was very interesting music" oh man but the riff on "Johnny B. Goode"! even without the lyric it's epic.

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

that riff is so great even Phish can't ruin it with a singer losing his voice

nb I was in the 4th row in front of Trey ;)

gabbneb, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

CLASSICAL MUSIC FOR $400:

Chuck Berry told this classical composer to 'roll over'

"Who is Beethoven?"

Correct!

CLASSICAL MUSIC FOR $600:

Chuck Berry told Beethoven to tell this classical composer 'the news'

Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

...

deeznuts, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Re: Dylan/ Berry
Sing Nadine in a Dylan voice.

'I shouted to the driver, hey conducter/ you m-u-st, slow down....
Nadi-i-i-ine, a honey is that yew?

and xpost
of course it was the Milo de Venus -much funnier

sonofstan, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

motorvatin

PappaWheelie V, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Of the top of the head, it's either Reelin' & Rockin', Memphis or Nadine, but I'm gonna listen to the whole thing while I make dinner and then get back to it.

Also: "I'm gon' send out a world wide hoodoo/ that'll be the very thing that'll suit ya" omg and "MOTORVATIN'" OTM!!!

people explosion, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

the version of Maybellene on 'Golden Hits' (late 60's 'compilation' which is really Chuck redoing his hits in what some deem a wan fashion) is super, doesn't seem tweaked too much at first but he flattens some of the verbal inflections in the chorus to nice effect and then the groove on the verses gets locked in hypnotically tight while he's rattling off his shit, all of a sudden it's a new song damn near. the only version for me now.

tremendoid, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Memphis.

The twist at the end just kills me every time.

Also this:

"Last time I saw Marie she's waving me good-bye
With hurry home drops on her cheek that trickled from her eye"

Jake Brown, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Other favorites:
"Phone sounds like thunder/ some stupid jerk tryin' to reach another number"
"She's the daughter of a well-respected man/ Who taught her how to judge and understand/ Since she became a rock-roll music fan"/// also love this song for the "She never gets any older" trope which is an important part of the Chuck Berry mythology, wrt The Supernature of Rock & Roll, plus it puts some surreal images in my head

The Dylan/Berry comparison makes a lot of sense to me, too, as a trajectory. They both take a perverse thrill in the tremendous possibilities of a simple couplet, and they were the architects of amalgamating rock'n'roll-fakin' it and rock'n'roll-sincerity, which really caught on much later than either's hey-day. Also, Berry wasn't that great of a singer, at least in proportion to his other talents, and there was little precedent for that when Dylan began his rock+roll career, so I'm certain he was well studied.

These songs have aged a lot better than a lot of the other early ROCKERS because Berry's particular talent, which is, you know, fucking poetry, like that of Leadbelly, Woody Guthrie, Hank Williams and a handful of the other architects popular music. Well, poetry is something that can only die with the language, unlike the energy of Little Richard or the sonic mastery of Buddy Holly, which could be/were outdone in some ways (though they're records still thrill me for those reasons, I could see how they wouldn't really get a jaded punker or prog rocker or hip hop head their rocks).

Johnny B. Goode maybe hasn't aged as well in this sense, because its poetry takes place on a different level. It's amazing to me how he took this archetype of the poor uneducated country boy who's amazing talent transcends the pettiness of class and turned it on its head for the Rock'n'Roll era just as the middle classes were puking in their laps over this amazing new energetic type of music that had its roots in greasy juke joints down south. It's an idea that's been fully integrated (no pun intended) now, but it was a remarkable addition to the rock mythology, and it hits me a little deeper than a wow neat-o couplet, even though he was the GOAT of neat-o couplets.

I guess my vote will go for "Nadine" because it was the first CB song I heard as profound with mature ears, having already heard them all as profound with immature ears. Also, I feel like I've lived that song a million times, and I've still never caught Nadine, and that's why the fadeout kills me every time.
Question: which of these two less Berry "Greats" moreso invented the Beatles: "I Wanna Be Your Driver" or "I'm Talking About You"

people explosion, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Jake otm - "hurry-home drops" is one of the most beautiful figures of speech I've ever heard.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It also brings up the important and perhaps hithertoo never asked question:

Is Chuck Berry twee?

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

awwwwwwwwwwwwwww that is pretty great for exactly that reason. Makes me think of that thing of how - and maybe this is just me misremembering Hail! Hail! Rock n Roll, but wasn't Chuck's cost-cutting touring practice, for ages and ages, to just pull into town and scoop up whatever local musicians were available, on the grounds that any musician with a pulse could play his entire catalogue by heart? There must be thousands of people out there who made an okay living playing whatever gigs and teaching guitar lessons and tending bar on the side, and whatever else happened in their life they can still tell the story that they backed up Chuck Berry once. Hard to imagine Lennon not thinking of it as a life highlight.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 October 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

god damn though - dude STILL plays one show a month at that club in st. louis. Thirty-five dollars a head. Any ilxors ever gone? I'm starting to feel like I should coordinate some kind of big cross-country road trip soon just to say I saw the guy once.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 October 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

holy shit I didn't know he gigged regularly like that in STL. I live pretty close by American standards, maybe I'll arrange a trip to see him. still shocks me that he's alive & all those other rockers afterward are long dead; same with Little Richard. like these giants are still in our midst & we care about such trivialities by comparison.

Euler, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

It's like when I was last in NY, I walked past a gig board that had "Les Paul, Live" and I was like "Wow, he still goin?", and yeah about 3 months later he died.

Not that long ago, I saw a LPaul live gig on SkyArts, a celeb guest version of what I would have seen, doubtless, and I enjoyed it but the kids would have, um, been refused entry actually. But yeah. or something.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

Will Chuck someday become the first of the original rock n rollers to die of natural causes?

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

but wasn't Chuck's cost-cutting touring practice, for ages and ages, to just pull into town and scoop up whatever local musicians were available, on the grounds that any musician with a pulse could play his entire catalogue by heart?

iirc, all he says to his musicians is, "When I put my foot down, start. When I put it down again, stop."

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

chuck playing 'johnny b. goode' on the mike douglas show with john and (on tambourine?) yoko. it's adorable how thrilled john looks to be there.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:59 PM (Yesterday)

I love ILM! That is a conga drum that Yoko's playing.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Will Chuck someday become the first of the original rock n rollers to die of natural causes?

― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:42 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bo Diddley beat him to it

mizzell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

no vote for school days! one of my fav tracks

flopson, Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

Turned 85 today.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Saw him twice. The first time was in Rhode Island, at a free concert in the parking lot of a shopping mall. Saw him get off a helicopter and meet the band right before hitting the stage. Also stopped the show for a few minutes because he spotted a video camera in the crowd. "Chuck Berry will play no until that camera is gone."

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I've got him down as turning 86. Showed this to the class today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDV_GDuJaUQ

clemenza, Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

no vote for school days! one of my fav tracks

― flopson, Thursday, 18 October 2012

one of mine too "RING ring goes the bell" "DROP the coin right into the slot" "HAIL hail rock n roll"! it's probably hurt by its similarity to "no particular place to go" which is a great song and has an evocation of cars & girls & aimlessness youth culture which probably feels more authentic than the high school and juke spot one. i might be the vote for "almost grown" if i was here then, which is also along the latter lines. "memphis" is a fine song and performance but its winning puts me vaguely mind of noz and tim f. musings about innovation "transcending" a genre being prized above innovation within a genre or something

zvookster, Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

still shocks me that he's alive & all those other rockers afterward are long dead; same with Little Richard. like these giants are still in our midst & we care about such trivialities by comparison.

this amazes me every time i think about it. jerry lee lewis too!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

i've always wanted to see him live too -- i mean, i have a hard time imagining little richard can put on anything resembling his old act anymore, but chuck can probably still kick anyone's ass when he feels like it.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

FWIW, I am a huge fan of working within a genre and if I voted for "Memphis" it was just because it really gets me sometimes and I think it's just a fantastic performance. I would just as happily vote for "Nadine" (which I may have in fact done?) for being the apex of Chuck-as-Chuck, the propulsive, inventive, urgent rock-and-roll storyteller.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

FWIW, I am a huge fan of working within a genre and if I voted for "Memphis" it was just because it really gets me sometimes and I think it's just a fantastic performance

yeah obv i accept this totally

zvookster, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

I've got him down as turning 86.
I stand corrected.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTnoSsaeOn0

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

That's awesome! What a showman. Love the naughtier work-through of the lyrics. And the Coca-Cola bit is something else.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 March 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

I've almost always confined myself to Chuck's "classic period," but I gotta say I'm really digging this comp of the 1969-1974 material on Spotify. Loose and often silly; he sounds like he's having fun which carries Chuck a long way with me even when the songwriting's not writ in lightning. "My Ding-A-Ling" sorta tests the limits of that, but it's generally very good listening.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 21 February 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link

"Tulane" rules.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

Top 10:

1. "Come On"
2. "Almost Grown"
3. "Promised Land"
4. "Johnny B. Goode"
5. "Brown Eyed Handsome Man"
6. "No Particular Place to Go"
7. "Maybellene"
8. "Too Much Monkey Business"
9. "Sweet Little Sixteen"
10. "Reelin' and Rockin'"

clemenza, Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Love this thread.

A possible way of broadening the conversation: while I grew up with The Great Twenty-Eight and would without question put it forward as THE collection for anybody remotely curious about Chuck Berry and his place in history, for the last many years what I actually have in my collection is its predecessor, the three-volume, six-disc The Golden Decade, put out by Chess in '67, '73, and '74. The first, heavy with hits, overlaps a lot with TG28, while the latter two start loading up on b-sides and lesser-known cuts, and paint a much more complete picture of his work, in particular his allegiance to the blues and to guitar instrumentals. Admittedly, they're a lot to take in, there are some duds, and there's something to be said for the chronological organization of TG28. And of course, the restriction to 1955-64 cuts out a lot of stuff, including "I Wanna Be Your Driver" (an album track from 1965's Chuck Berry In London)... though conveniently "My Ding-A-Ling" is doomed in the process. I'd pick TG28 for the car and any musically curious kids, but all three of these together for an afternoon of dedicated Chuck listening.

Anyway, I just figured I'd post the tracklist here (with TG28 tracks in bold) and see if people have thoughts about any of the other songs! Dates and source information started from Wikipedia, but relied heavily on Dietmar Rudolph's great discography site - Wiki uses this as a source but several times scrambles the A- and B-sides. Most if not all of the A-sides also appeared on LPs at the time, but I only bothered noting album source for non-single tracks. Interestingly, even all these discs together don't give you a complete slate of his sides from this period as there are plenty of missing B-sides. But man, what an output.

Chuck Berry's Golden Decade

Maybellene 1955
Deep Feeling 1957 (b-side to "School Day")
Johnny B. Goode 1958
Wee Wee Hours 1955 (b-side to "Maybellene")
Nadine 1964
Brown-Eyed Handsome Man 1956 (b-side to "Too Much Monkey Business")
Roll Over Beethoven 1956
Thirty Days 1955
Havana Moon 1956 (b-side to "You Can't Catch Me")
No Particular Place To Go 1964
Memphis 1959
Almost Grown 1959
School Day 1957
Too Much Monkey Business 1956
Oh, Baby Doll 1957
Reelin' and Rockin' 1958 (b-side to "Sweet Little Sixteen")
You Can't Catch Me 1956
Too Pooped to Pop 1960 (b-side to "Let It Rock")
Bye Bye Johnny 1960
Around and Around 1958 (b-side to "Johnny B. Goode")
Sweet Little Sixteen 1958
Rock and Roll Music 1957
Anthony Boy 1959
Back In the U.S.A. 1959

Chuck Berry's Golden Decade Volume 2

Carol 1958
You Never Can Tell 1964
No Money Down 1955
Together We Will Always Be 1955 (b-side to "Thirty Days")
Mad Lad (Davis) 1960 (b-side to "I Got To Find My Baby")
Run Rudolph Run 1958 (Marks, Brodie) (b-side to "MerrY Christmas Baby")
Let It Rock 1960
Sweet Little Rock and Roller 1958
It Don't Take But A Few Minutes 1958 (from One Dozen Berries)
I'm Talking About You 1961
Driftin' Blues" (Brown, Moore, Williams) 1960 (from Rockin' at the Hops)
Go Go Go 1961 (b-side to Come On)
Jaguar and the Thunderbird 1960
Little Queenie 1959
Betty Jean 1960 (from Rockin' at the Hops)
Guitar Boogie 1958 (from One Dozen Berrys)
Down the Road Apiece (Raye) 1960 (from Rockin' at the Hops)
Merry Christmas Baby (Baxter, Moore) 1958
The Promised Land 1964
Jo Jo Gunne 1958 (b-side to "Sweet Little Rock and Roller")
Don't You Lie to Me 1961 (from New Juke Box Hits)
Rockin' at the Philharmonic 1958 (from One Dozen Berrys)
La Juanda (Espanola) 1957 (b-side to "Oh Baby Doll")
Come On 1961

Chuck Berry's Golden Decade Volume 3

Beautiful Delilah 1958
Go Bobby Soxer 1964 (b-side to "Little Marie")
I Got to Find My Baby 1960
Worried Life Blues (Big Maceo Merriweather) 1960 (b-side to "Bye Bye Johnny")
Rolli Polli aka Roly Poly 1957 (from After School Session)
Downbound Train 1955 (b-side to "No Money Down")
Broken Arrow (E. Anderson) 1959
Confessin' the Blues (Walter Brown, Jay McShann) 1960 (from Rockin' at the Hops)
Drifting Heart 1956 (b-side to "Roll Over Beethoven")
In-Go (author unknown) 1958 (from One Dozen Berrys)
Man and the Donkey 1961 (prev. with fake crowd noise on Chuck Berry on Stage)
St. Louis Blues (W.C. Handy) 1965
Our Little Rendezvous 1960 (b-side to "Jaguar and Thunderbird")
Childhood Sweetheart 1959 (b-side to "Broken Arrow")
Blues for Hawaiians 1958 (from Chuck Berry Is On Top)
Hey Pedro 1958 (b-side to "Carol")
My Little Love Light 1965 (from Chuck Berry In London)
Little Marie 1964
County Line 1959 (prev. unpublished)
Viva Viva Rock And Roll 1966 (chronology cheat!)
House of Blue Lights 1958 (Don Raye, Freddie Slack) (prev. unpublished)
Time Was 1958 (prev. unpublished)
Blue on Blue 1959 (prev. unpublished)
Oh Yeah 1958 (prev. unpublished)

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

...and, to start the ball rolling, a few must-hears off the top of my head:

You Never Can Tell - I mean, duh.

Wee Wee Hours - from his very first session (along with "Maybellene," "Thirty Days" and "Together We Will Always Be" - damn, what an afternoon!) and a good glimpse of the sort of blues he arrived from.

No Money Down - interesting variant on his automobile material, here a catalogue of desired car features rendered as a stop-time blues in the vein of "I'm Your Hoochie Koochie Man" (put out by Chess in January 1954) and "I'm A Man" (ditto, April 1955). Chuck's recording was in December 1955.

Bye Bye Johnny, Little Marie - sequel songs to "Johnny B. Goode" and "Memphis" respectively.

Broken Arrow - departure from his usual subject matter and with a much more laid-back rhythm and backing vocals - feels kinda lo-fi compared to most of his stuff from this period to be honest but that makes it interesting imo

Downbound Train - great little "vision of hell" narrative.

Down the Road Apiece, Jaguar and the Thunderbird, Jo Jo Gunne, Our Little Rendezvous, Go Bobby Soxer, St. Louis Blues - pretty good numbers in the vein of Chuck's main line. The last, as Handy's name might suggest, is a blues standard dating back to 1914 but here made over with Chuck's most familiar guitar stylings and, typical of Chuck Berry In London, a slightly rougher, louder rhythm section. I don't think any of these are quite the equal of the Great Twenty-Eight, but who knows - maybe if they'd been on there and I'd grown up with them they'd be just as obviously classic.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link

Oh, and fair warning: most of the "Latin" numbers feature Chuck trying on some sort of usually cringe-inducing accent. :-/

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link

My #1 above, "Come On," is brilliant. Whenever I play it for students, they love the line "I wish somebody'd come along and run into it and wreck it." I've got the three Golden Decades too--got Vol. 2 as a cutout somewhere, one of my greatest finds ever.

clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Would love to hear more about students reacting to Chuck! The "run into it and wreck it" line is fantastic, though it's "some stupid jerk tryin' to REACH ANOTHER NUMBER" that always comes to mind for me.

Another obscurity from GD III: "Viva Viva Rock and Roll," which isn't a great composition but is nonetheless cute, as the lyric tries to cram in as many Chuck Berry song titles as possible ("Sweet little sixteen, you will soon turn twenty-one; no more reelin' and a rockin', your school days will soon be done," et cetera).

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

I love the stupid jerk line too. What's so amazing about "I wish somebody'd come along and run into it and wreck it" is how he makes such a wordy line rhythmic.

I don't know Vol. 3 at all--played it once and shelved it. I'm sure there are good songs in there worth salvaging.

clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

I've been working through it today - it's good listening but less of a "great songs" kind of deal. If they'd known they were going to eventually do six discs maybe they'd have spread the hits around more evenly - as it is, it feels like two packages of mostly hits, with some oddities and b-sides, and then one that's overwhelmingly the latter. Feels suddenly more "box-set-like" if you know what I mean.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

This has been my go-to Chuck song these days — absolutely cooks. Those drums!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ2Z1oG1EEs

Jazzbo, Saturday, 11 February 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Wow, that's good. Man, if they were gonna put "I Wanna Be Your Driver" on these comps they could have slotted that in. Maybe I need to pick up Chuck Berry In London ... between that and his "St. Louis Blues" it sounds like a pretty hot session.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 12 February 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link

Recently discovered the Rolling Stones' "Come On" - their debut single! - and boyyyyyy is it lame. Kind of a skiffley/Merseybeat kinda version I guess, but it just makes the whole thing way too chill and pleasant-feeling. Also they change it to "some stupid GUY" which is really distracting (especially since they sing that part twice). In general I'd trust these guys to do some roaring covers but I'll take the Beatles' "Roll Over Beethoven" any day.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

They did also do "Bye Bye Johnny," and it's got a little more grit and noise to it.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

but I'll take the Beatles' "Roll Over Beethoven" any day.

Ditto. It took the Stones a while to do a decent Chuck cover...and it took the Beatles a while, too, but they'd been hammering away at Chuck's songs for years before they recorded any (and before the Stones even formed).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 24 February 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

Recently discovered the Rolling Stones' "Come On" - their debut single! - and boyyyyyy is it lame.

Read that too fast, missed Rolling Stones, almost fainted...I think I have their version (on the import EP Around and Around?), but I don't remember it.

clemenza, Friday, 24 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

Andrew Loog Oldham picked "Come On" for the 1st single because it was the "Most Pop" number in the Stones' set list at the time, something I think he really encouraged when they arranged it for the studio.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link

No votes for Around and Around, but its got the coolest guitar sound

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit, this list of songs!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link

I've probably heard at least one cover of each of these songs, as well as the originals.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:30 (seven years ago) link

In terms of sound, very little in the history of electric guitar recordings tops the opening to Maybellene... but yeah I do dig Around and Around.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 February 2017 03:25 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

Question: when Nadine gets into that coffee-colored Cadillac, do you picture (a.) a black Cadillac, because this is just a clever way of getting a standard black Cadillac into a song lyric, or (b.) a Cadillac that's some shade of medium brown?

I had always pictured B, but it just occurred to me that A is actually more likely.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:16 (four months ago) link

Good question. I think of coffee-colored as brown fwiw. For Berry's purposes obviously what he's enjoying is just the alliteration of coffee-colored Cadillac — which both starts and ends with a hard "c." Dude could write.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:36 (four months ago) link

sounds funky, but what about a "chartreuse Cadillac"? from 1950:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRXCeEcWjXk

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:18 (four months ago) link

2:17

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:19 (four months ago) link

https://hdpaintcode.com/files/cadillac-20.jpg

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:25 (four months ago) link

"cocaobar Cadillac" sounds cool too...

budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:25 (four months ago) link

Wow, I had no idea there were so many colors of Cadillac. The cocoabar and the taupe both seem like they could be coffee-colored.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:44 (four months ago) link

I always thought dark brown, and also always think of Springsteen in the "Hail! Hail!" doc, saying something to the effect that he's never seen a coffee-colored Cadillac, but damned if he doesn't know exactly what Chuck's singing about.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:06 (four months ago) link

Speaking of Nadine, and going back to the Berry influence on Dylan discussion way up thread, I was at this show and this was the highlight of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKODmOHIZU

BrianB, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:30 (four months ago) link


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