The Inevitable New Jay-Z Album: Blueprint 3

its kind of a mess but i like it

That is v nearly a ringing endorsement via u!

beats any of the singles off his last two except maybe "roc boys"

btw so is this kanye's "a milli" rip?

i mean look he is still a C+ rapper on this and is still rapping about some puzzling shit-- oasis beef, calling himself "high fashionique" and shit like that, but the beat really works cuz it doesn't require him to actually ride anything, which is when he's been utterly awful lately ("i know")

J0rdan S. authoritatively reminds us that Jay-Z is a "C+ rapper"

Yeah I mean (this is not an apologetic for the fuckin *whisper flow*) it's always been dude's freedom in engaging w/his beats that makes him so interesting to me. He's always had one of the jazziest flows in rap, and that's part of the reason why I keep listening.

xp

Hurting come on I'm the biggest Hov stan on ILM and even I'll admit that lots of his recent output, "I Know" being a prominent example, is subpar.

dude based on kingdom come/american gangster + various scattered verses i think "C+ rapper" is being generous

im too lazy to troll you right now but lets be honest

also i dont think i want to have the "jay-z isn't that good anymore" discussion on ilm again

for serious though this track is pretty weak

yep xp

dude based on kingdom come/american gangster + various scattered verses i think "C+ rapper" is being generous

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:37 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol i had completely excised kingdom come from my memory already

thx for reminding me jerkstore

jockin big hoos jockin big hoos

btw so is this kanye's "a milli" rip?

buh? just ima hustler x 99 problems with swizzy/rocky mania switched for (weirdly leaden) 80s minimal.

totally tedious tune.

Better than I expect from a late-era Jigga single.

knowing the way kanye obsesses over really popular and margin-pushing songs that he doesn't make (esp rap songs), i wouldn't be surprised if this was influenced by "a milli", in the sample and the bass (very un-kanye) and just the structure of the song in general

it definitely doesn't sound like anything he's been doing lately

i don't really dig this.

RIP

OMG only listened to a minute, but it was really good!. i skipped ahead, though, and i'm not sure that beat really holds up w/o some manipulation for 3+ minutes.

lol at this dude still being butthurt over Gallagher zings four fucking months on. Noel OG has moved back onto zinging "spotty herbert" indie bands again.

like a good parochial. dude being butthurt = dude understanding tabloid culture sells, especially in some places.

i think jay told us all a couple years ago that he's very comfortable being a "C+ rapper" - no more interest in flowing futuristic - and some of us are very comfortable with the same

like me and my best friend Michael Bloomberg

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i can't wait for the wedding

Did he get Rev Run to rerecord his one line from "Dumb Girl"? That's pretty cool.

Masta Ace at least got a "featuring" credit when he did that on "Drivin Down The Block"

I'm at work and can't listen to this so I'm officially taking off from even saying anything about this. Hater's holiday, y'all.

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the tempo and the hook remind me of bounce more than anything. the guitar gets a little annoying.

bounce the rap subgenre or "Bounce" the Jay/Kanye song from Blueprint 2?

bounce

this is okay. i would have said good but i say the VH1 Soul making of Reasonable Doubt documentary thing last nite so i now have a crystal clear memory of how awesome he used to be....goddamn it was sweet, sauce money and jay in the studio breaking down verses from bring it on....so dope. premo and jay breaking down d'evils. unreal.

Okay just got the news on the new LP. The Tracklisting on the internet is completely false, with the exception of possibly Most Kings but even that has been changed as Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song. Kanye West produced the entire album with a sound that combines the best of Kanye, Swizz, and Dilla. Think about how Swagga Like Us has the vocal sample with the Swiss Effect, the drums of Dilla by not being on some straight up boom boom bap sound, and the Electronic/European sounds of the keyboards used on the swagger joint.

Timbaland originally said he was doing the album, at which point Kanye flew to Germany to meet up with Jigga, gave him one beat cd with fifteen or so joints on it and after that it was a wrap. Kanye then flew to Hawaii where Jay was working and from there they knocked it out. The sound is not Love Lockdown so don’t worry about that. It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic. It will definitely satisfy the heads while appealing to the eclectic cats.

As far as now there are no rapping features on the LP, but Cee-Lo Green of Gnarls Barkley is singing the hook on one track. Another song about Brooklyn features Santi White aka Santogold, an up and coming artist out of New York. Kanye sampled one of her songs and Jay then brought her in to redo the vocals. While other producers have been trying to get their work on the album the sound that Kanye is bringing is so different from what he has been doing that its damn near impossible to get anyone who is matching the same sound without them hearing what he has been doing.

I think from the news that I got is that he is gonna change the game again with the sound of this album, and while that has been said before remember Jay has already done this at least twice, once with the bling sound of the Neptunes and again with the original Blueprint.

http://pleasedontstare.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/the-overstanding-on-the-blueprint-3/#

wow this might be the most spectacular mess of all time

i cannot wait

it's probably just be a regular mess

it'll

It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic.

yeah you're right, this probably doesn't mean shit (no sarcasm)

It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic. = possibly pulled verbatim from an old Kid Rock press kit.

Possible blueprints for this release:

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The Black Album 4

Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song

o_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

Cee-Lo Green of Gnarls Barkley

smmfh

yeah and also "the Swiss Effect"

imagining drums made from clog samples

also can i take this opportunity to say that i hate hate hate ye jocking "swiss"

why does jay need to co-opt mia and santogold...he's like an aging rock star

i'm sure it's Kanye grabbing their records for samples and Jay just nods and goes along with it.

that fake tracklist was pretty hilarious, btw. "The Audacity Of Dope"!

it's so ridiculous btw

alicia keys annoying the fuck out of me on "Empire State of Mind" tbh

she's the only good thing about the song, though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1nbvplgElw

...this is actually the next single

damn...at least I didn't have to hear "Beach Chair" more than once

i think that's the UK single and "On To The Next One" is the US single? either way, shameful enough for him to even make that song, let alone shoot a video.

"on to the next one" would actually be a good choice, best rap song on the album imo

i like the one that's basically a jeezy song that jay jumped on better but yeah

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remember when it felt actually affecting

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smooth jayz

i wonder sometimes if there is a smooth jazz scene. like, do dudes get together and groove on grover washington records and talk about starting bands? do they argue about whether chris botti is really smooth or not? what's the pitchfork of smooth jazz?

wow forever young is so horrible horrible horrible i could only stand about 30 seconds into it. is that sting?

Dude, you don't remember 90210's David Silver?

xpost

I don't like that "Empire State of Mind" Pazz and Jop Single of the Year song.

Having to review "Young Forever" has reminded me that I haven't totally transcended the feeling of absolute hatred for certain pieces of music.

also who the fuck is that "mr hudson" dude?

It just appalls me that any piece of music from someone who was ever once good could be this gratuitously bad. Why didn't they even bother to autotune (in the pre-Cher sense) the chorus?

if christ martin is david lee roth than mr hudson is kanye's personal sammy hagar

hahah christ martin u_u

also then*

i haven't heard "young forever" and don't plan on it

I had avoided until now and was happier for it.

i've noticed it lurking in the charts and have been avoiding too - mr hudson sounds like an actual tramp

It just appalls me that any piece of music from someone who was ever once good could be this gratuitously bad. Why didn't they even bother to autotune (in the pre-Cher sense) the chorus?

― Tim F, Monday, February 15, 2010 2:08 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest

DOA duh

would love to hear that his singer is out of tune bcuz jay specifically refused to autotune in a bout of self flagellating rockism

no we will NOT autotune i don't care what he sounds like

"young forever" is awful but there's at LEAST five worse songs on the album iirc!

yeah...i'm already starting to get pretty sick of "Onto The Next One," i guess anything that feels like a breath of fresh air in the context of Blueprint 3 would be a fart anywhere else

and fuck that autotune cuz we OOOooooooon

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 4, 2010 12:05 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

every time i hear this part i think wow, whiney considers this a quotable 'hot line'

lol

i pretty much dig "on to the next one" tho

the only hot line in "on to the next one" -- "niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums" -- is undercut by the fact that it's spit on a song from the blueprint 3

i would rapidshare them if i hadnt already bought them

kids want my old shit, .rar my old albums

i give up. I love jay-z and even found a lot to like about blueprint 2 even though it has a lot of crap on it. but i flat out just don't like blueprint 3. lyrically it's...bad. even the production pales in comparison to the original, but I have not been able to finish this album since the first 3 listens.

yeah...honestly this album makes Kingdom Come sound good

i even tried listening again on Friday after taking several months off to see if maybe itw as a "just wasn't in the mood for it at the time" but nope. the flow sucks, the lyrics suck. and yet it got fairly good reviews, which surprised me.

Even "Run This Town" is a bit neutered - kinda pop rap like T.I. (whom I like btw), but it would have been a lesser song on The Blueprint.

ohw ell, guess I'll stick with listening to Freeway and Tech N9ne...

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kings on set

big hat club

jay still plays young forever at his live shows, so embarrassing

I dunno if it's a staple of every tour, but last summer w/ Justin they closed with it as a dedication to Trayvon which was very oh fuck you're trying to make me feel bad about hating this song now

big hat club

― The Reverend, Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i made a big hat club joke about pharell on the grammys and some dude was the only one who said anything about it :)

the other day i was listening to Shaq songs on YouTube and a one with an old school Jay guest spot came up and sometimes it's shocking now to hear old Jay, he was SO GOOD, like he fell off so incredibly hard

not gonna deny dude got worse and the fact that RD/BP/Black Album are cited like they're his only dope albums '96-'03 is irritating but I always dug this the most out of post-retirement Jay. then again I haven't listened to it in forever

the other day i was listening to Shaq songs on YouTube

Yo Shaq! Where ya at?
I'M OVAH HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8BvC0PNpI

I take a little while...Bought this a year ago used, got around to playing most of it in the car a month ago, finished yesterday. Didn't get much of anything out of it, except for "Already Home," which I played a few time today. Pretty music, and when you're married to Marilyn Monroe and hang around the president, "They want me to go/I'm already gone" would ideally be the last line you ever write. But I guess he kept going.

Big Hat Club!!!!!

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Big Hat Club vs. reapah! brbrbrbrbrvdb