Richard Marx - S&D

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Actually don't you think that if Patrick Bateman declared a fondness for Brand X (the band, not another designer logo), the book would've been more ambiguous and strange and WAAAY less obvious? It would've been a real book then and not a satiric schematic. Ellis is funny and everything but if you want a real transgressive trip into darkness that leaves you feeling soiled and uneasy afterward try A.M. Homes' 'The End of Alice' or Gordon Lish's 'Dear Mr Capote'. Also, I think Ellis fucked up by having Bateman ridicule Elvis Costello, but such is the cruelty of time viz. old music reviews

dave q, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Despite the sub-Duran Duran video attempt, "Keep Coming Back" is actually rather good! Come on, you know it's true! I also liked that one that was a straight photocopy of the Eagles' "Good Day in Hell". What? You don't know that one?

dave q, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.richardmarx.com/web/images/picgallery/photogal1.jpg

You just don't get hair like that in the charts anymore.

stevo, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Growing up I think I received Richard Marx like lungs breathe air. "Hazard" was so omnipresent, I don't think I would have been able to understand that liking it was a personal choice rather than an immutable aspect of reality.

Tim, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

what was richard marx's big hit and why can't i remember it now? in elementary school music class we were forced to learn how to play the melody of it on the keyboard (how "new wave" of us.)

jess, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You had keyboards in yr elementary school? Try being forced to duplicate it on an 'autoharp'!

geeta, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hehe, i am currently forcing my keyboard kiddies to play 'cherry lips' and the theme from 'the simpsons'

minna, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"It Don't Mean Nothing"

Baaauuughhhahahahaha!

Dave225, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd thought he was pleasant but uninteresting, and I was puzzled by his stardom; then "Hazard" astonished me with its sadness and beauty; I wasn't expecting anything like that from him: the mystery and pain of life, what's THAT doing here?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

the big hit was 'right here waiting'. and if anyone says anything truly appreciative about that song, i'm outta here.

Dave M., Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember when it was the question of who would succeed more, him or Robbie Nevil.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Right Here Waiting" has a catchy melody. If Elliot Smith had written it and recorded it in his style, it'd be his best effort ever, and we'd all praise it.

Todd Brandenburg, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Taking Sides: Robbie Neville vs Richard Marx - FIGHT!

Lord Custos III, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

todd: you bastard etc.

Dave M., Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Todd, you bastard, if Elliot Smith wrote "Waiting For You", he wouldn't be Elliot Smith. He'd be Christopher Cross.

Daver, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, well, Christopher Cross wrote better melodies than Elliot Smith is capable of, too. Anybody on this list thinking for him or herself?

Todd Brandenburg, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tim is dead right about "Hazard". I was utterly despairing of the world (for both personal and political reasons) when it was out so I drowned my sorrows in it - my world was falling in, and it had some sort of meaning. All his other songs are dreadful Sloppy Bit fodder.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think "All By Myself" is the best example of what I'm trying to get at in my little responses above. Dressed up in Badfinger's clothing, that song's easy to love, and it should be loved, since it's terrific. I can't remember which screaming drone passing herself off as a "good singer" covered it a few years back, but you know the version I refer to--it was a big international smash, over-produced so's you wouldn't ever suspect it was originally written and recorded by someone or something "cool" or "hip". But you see that's what makes it a good song. It can withstand the force of different styles. Singer/writers like Richard Marx are funny to look at, but one should try to think outside the silly little indie box for at least a moment. I mean, you are aware that metalheads and fratboys think you're as embarrassing as you think they are, right? And who the fuck is to say that you're right, that you really do have the corner on cool? It becomes horrifyingly like religion. I seem to have an agenda. Must figure out what it is. Good night.

Todd Brandenburg, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are you all being serious?

Ally, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was being dead serious about "Hazard".

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
"Satisfied"!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...
one year passes...

Drunk on Twitter right now:
@richardmarx

Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

highlights?

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx
OMG it's so fun to be on Twitter when you don't have a career to worry about protecting!!!!!

Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, nothing too crazy, he's just tweeting a lot.

Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

and you're... right there waiting for him.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

damn this thread is full of classics

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

He really is making Twitter work for him:

Playing in Coral Springs, Fl 2nite. I think like..eleven people are coming. Gonna do the whole show in dark glasses and play all Soundgarden

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

only 50 minutes from me! I may ask him to play "Pretty Noose."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

would pay .99 for a richard marx cover of "the day i tried to live" tbh

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

now I imagine Soundgarden returning the favor and covering "Should've Known Better."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

I like to think about the people (who surely existed) who heard Should've Known Better and thought "Wow, I didn't know Richard Marx could ROCK!"

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

Don't Mean Nothing and Should've Known Better were actually his first two singles. The ballads came later.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

awww dammit

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Marx's early rockers weren't bad at all. "Don't Mean Nothing" actually has Joe Walsh (which makes sense: it's a "Long Run" rewrite).

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

and it must be pointed out:

Marx placed himself in the record books by being the first solo artist to have his first seven singles hit the Top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart (3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4)

Not to mention his songwriting/production credits.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 December 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

I really like some of the stuff he's written for Keith Urban.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dtfBxUTXRY

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3pzIzlcCMs

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

he was pretty cool on Chelsea Peretti's podcast

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

This is also a Marx jam, as is that N' Sync one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ug6PvTI-c

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

"Hazard" was big in England too, wasn't it?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

i really dig this. it's no hazard, but it's just so goddamn catchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmj7gX2yDUI

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

for being a #1 single it's fallen down the memory hole. I bought Repeat Offender thanks to this lol

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

nice

I've been thinking about it. I had it on cassette in high school but never re-upped. Maybe it's time.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I could be wrong, but Marx's hair was a topic of discussion even when people had ridiculous hair everywhere, right? Because that's just plain silly.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

it was p impressive, even for the time

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

because Marx was just over four feet tall.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

didn't get into a tiff with Adam Curry?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

>:(

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

what would you keep besides "Hazard," Neanderthal?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

I like "Endless Summer Nights", "The Way She Loves Me", "Take This Heart", and uh...probably a few more.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

"don't mean nothing", which i'd call the best fake eagles song ever except 3 of the eagles are on it so i'm not sure there's anything 'fake' about it, and of course 'hazard' are the only two i'll really rep for, there are a few others i can get more mild pleasure than mild annoyance from ("satisfied", "children of the night" a pretty big guilty pleasure, "endless summer nights" which could probably use more sax tbh). no use for "right here waiting" or "hold on to the nights".

until wikipedia had no idea he cowrote, produced, and played on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQOmDUnt8Hs

balls, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah I said upthread it's a blatant copy of "The Long Run" but less obnoxious. I like the falsetto.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

man for like a year and a half i've been moaning about spotify not having the eagles and how they're precisely the type of band i would never buy but would totally check out on spotify but now that they're on there i've been all 'eh, maybe i'll check out pink floyd instead'.

balls, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

"The Long Run has deep cuts!"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

ended up playing the hazard video for a bunch of coworkers trying to reconvince them of his brilliance and ended up back down the Richard Marx rabbit hole. I realized I never did reup the first 2 albums as intended. I think today will be the day.

i really love the sound of his voice.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

ended up ended up ended up :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

I dunno about brilliance but "Hazard" is several leagues better than most of his stuff, and not exclusively because it's Serious Material.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

man it's amazing what my exchange with balls wrought

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

I read that very wrongly

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

well ok maybe not brilliance but everyone just laughs at his hair and he's so good!! sigh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

lol i thought that also, it's like seeing a guy in 1963 go 'i think i might join the marines'

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link

well I didn't end up with the first 2 albums I only scored the greatest hits but a) used and b) 50% off because I am a regular shopper at that establishment so SCORE

anyway now I can listen to Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiia anytime I want

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

Albini interviews Fulks:

A: So, this has nothing to do with your music, but I'm gonna ask you about it. Are you familiar with—there's a short film that your lovely wife, Donna, has been asked to be in that I have also been asked to be in. Are you familiar with this?

F: Sure. I told her never in a million years to even approach you because you would be uninterested, but it sounds like there's a possibility you could do it.

A: Well, what happened is—it's a short film about a Twitter beef between a writer and a musical celebrity, let's say a slightly passe musical celebrity along the lines of a Richard Marx.

F: Like Groucho Marx but from Winnetka.

A: When I read about that original Twitter beef, my initial reaction was that the writer guy, who was all incensed about how cheap Richard Marx was—my initial reaction was that that guy was a cock and a half, and I hoped that Richard Marx punched him square in the nose. So I was curious to read the script, because I wanted to see if the script was from the perspective of Richard Marx or from the perspective of the writer. Or if it was from some external perspective.

F: Have you read the script?

A: I did read the script. And now I'm kind of creeped by it, and I kind of don't want to do it. But I feel like I'm an awkward position, because it seems like this guy has written this part for me to play me, saying things that I would never say about someone I would never say them about.

F: That's kind of why I told her that I didn't think you'd be interested in it. Because it's you playing you, right?

A: I think that's the idea. Were you aware of this Marxstroversy when it happened?

F: I guess I did read an article about it somewhere, yeah.

A: Secondarily, I'm a little freaked about it because I appeared on—there was a local taping of a podcast, the Scharpling podcast [Low Times]. It's Tom Scharpling from The Best Show. He and a couple of other people from the show have a podcast, where it's more related to music. Anyway. They taped it at the Hideout, Chicago's friendliest tavern, and they had me and Richard Marx as guests. So I actually met Richard Marx.

F: And he wasn't a cock—he was a nice guy.

A: Well, you know, he seemed like he was a little out of touch and maybe a little full of his own dump. But I find it really hard to think ill of a guy who's self-aware enough to come down to a thing where he knows he might get picked on. I thought that was, relatively speaking, big of him.

F: To want to punch a music blogger is an inherently creditable notion. (Laughter.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link

he won't stop until he's satisfied!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link

is this really happening? now?

OutdoorFish, Friday, 24 January 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 3m

Today is the 25th Anniversary of Repeat Offender which scored 2 #1 hits, 5 top 15 singles & sold 10M copies #teammarx pic.twitter.com/xZBl4Ae5uc

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 March 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

happy anniversary

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...
seven months pass...

On this day in '89 my song "Satisfied" topped the Billboard Hot 100. Going out 2night and celebrate its anniversary.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

DONCHA KNOOWOOOH

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

I like the idea of Marx updating us chart geeks. "On this day in 1994, my last top ten 'Now and Forever' fell off the Hot 100!"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

just married daisy fuentes!

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 December 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

wtf i didnt even know he & cynthia split ;_;

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 December 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link

Ugh

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 December 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

Second marriage for both. For some reason this union seems like a lack of imagination on both of their parts.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 December 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

i heard "endless summer nights" on a radio and god help me i liked it. i probably heard it back in the 1980s but don't remember if so.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

the problem w/ the blogger discussed above is that he can't imagine a person who could make the sort of music marx makes (and continues to make) doing so in earnest. i see no reason to doubt marx's commitment to even the dreck-iest of his music.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

meaning, i don't see evidence of bad faith on his part.

take celine dion -- does anyone doubt her passionate commitment to the kind of music she makes?

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

endless summer nights is one of my faves

also: angelia

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

whenever i see the name of that song i think it's a typo

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Don't Mean Nothing = best Eagles rip of the '80s.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

Should've Known Better is fun to karaoke

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

something something hazard

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

richard marx will save us

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

should have known better imo

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

right here waiting (with rope)

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I’m THE Richard Marx who doesn’t need to defend my career, calling you out for being so far up Trump’s ass you can taste his colon. And you keep dodging the fact that you failed your viewers by being a pussy. @piersmorgan https://t.co/lnAX59MQK3

— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) January 26, 2018

lol

j., Saturday, 27 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

I keep waiting for Richard Marx's no wave EP.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 January 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

saw him live last night & idk what deal he has made with the devil but his voice still sounds fkng great

Anyway it made me go back and find some of the later-period albums I hadn't heard, like Flesh & Bone & that red Avalon one that I can't remember the name of and the most recent album and they're pretty good imo! Though I will admit to a deep abiding bias, lol.

It occurred to me that his catalog would hold up well against a listening thread if enough ppl were on board.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 February 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link

oh that would be fun. i legit loved 'hazard' when i was 9 or 10 and when i go back to those songs now they really are quite decent and defensible.

macropuente (map), Sunday, 17 February 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link

that whole album, repeat offender, is really good - my personal fave

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 February 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

This dude is always a treat on Twitter. He's like the Chrissy Teigen of 90s adult contemporary dudes.

The ones your girl fucked to before she met you. https://t.co/n6whpEPXrK

— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) March 11, 2020

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

He was a guest recently on a podcast I listen to; he had some fairly interesting stuff to talk about, mainly his early days in the biz.

Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

he was on Chelsea Peretti’s podcast randomly a number of years ago, and he was great - even when all of her caller/listeners had no idea who he was!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link

he was also on the low times podcast with tom scharpling a while back, he seems like a bro for sure

na (NA), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link


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