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anyone have the top 50 list?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm guessing Green Day and Muse will be in the top 3 judging by previous readers votes.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
while googling for info I found this thread http://www.greendaycommunity.org/Forum/index.php?showtopic=72295Green Day - American Idiot was no 1. It doesn't say who else was in the top 50.
dj martian do you have the top 50 ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/Kryssi-Cool/2v3lwxy.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
50: Crisis - Alexisonfire49: Permission to Land - The Darkness48: Blessed Black Wings - High on Fire47: Relationship of Command - At the Drive-In46: The Green Album - Weezer45: Volcano - Satyricon44: Orchestra of Wolves - Gallows43: Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) - Marilyn Manson42: From Here to Infirmary - Alkaline Trio41: Take to the Skies - Enter Shikari40: Worship and Tribute - Glassjaw39: Ghost Reveries - Opeth38: Love Metal - HIM37: Jane Doe - Converge36: Bleed American - Jimmy Eat World35: Ire Works - The Dillinger Escape Plan34: Riot! - Paramore33: A Fever You Can't Sweat Out - Panic! At The Disco32: II: A Bustle In Your Hedgerow - Down31: Vol 3:(The Subliminal Verses) - Slipknot30: Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavoured Water - Limp Bizkit29: Black Holes and Revelations - Muse28: Mutter - Rammstein27: City of Evil - Avenged Sevenfold26: Casually Dressed & Deep In Conversation - Funneral For A Friend25: Puzzle - Biffy Clyro24: Death Magnetic - Metallica23: With Teeth - Nine Inch Nails22: Ascendancy - Trivium21: The End Of Heartache - Killswitch Engage20: Lateralus - Tool19: Start Something - LostProphets18: The Poison - Bullet For My Valentine17: 21st Century Breakdown - Green Day16: All Hope Is Gone - Slipknot15: White Pony - Deftones14: Hybrid Theory - Linkin Park13: Origin of Symmetry - Muse12: The Black Parade - My Chemical Romance11: Songs For The Deaf - Queens Of The Stone Age10: Leviathan - Mastodon9: From Under The Cork Tree - Fall Out Boy8: The Blackening - Machine Head7: Take Off Your Pants and Jacket - Blink 1826: Toxicity - System Of A Down5: Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge - My Chemical Romance4: A Beautiful Lie - 30 Seconds To Mars3: Iowa - Slipknot2: Absolution - Muse1: American Idiot - Green Day
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I vote for #48 as the best on that list. By far.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
#4 has to be some vote-mobilising biz, right?
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
funny old list. jane doe sticks out like a sore thumb.
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
a "best of" list where limp bizkit make the cut? am i missing something here?
― borntohula, Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
lol shitting christ it really is origin of symmetry isn't it
― cockles (country matters), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
that really is the answer
― cockles (country matters), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i think muse @ no2 is worse than green day at no1 tbh.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
weezer? is that list by the 21st century schizoid man or what?
― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Surprised #48 is so far behind #10. I thought if you knew about one, you'd know about the other. (And realize #48 was superior)
― bendy, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
its a readers vote
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
strongly disagree, pfunkboy. absolution is the 2nd best album here
― cockles (country matters), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?
Think we have the answer...
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ah, hello spotify!
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
24: Death Magnetic - Metallica
― kshighway, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
No St. Anger, no credibility.
― kshighway, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
absolution is the 2nd best album here― cockles (country matters),
― cockles (country matters),
lj wrong. Muse are fucking awful and in no way better than high on fire,converge,mastodon , atd-i or qotsa. or even white pony or toxicity. so you are totally and utterly wrong.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
would love to know the voting demographics here, my guess is predominantly 10-11 year old boys .
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Three Slipknot records!
― kshighway, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
judging by the kerrang blog comments its girls mostly voting not the boys.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm shocked there's no Oceansize presence here. If Kerrang were good for one thing, it was continual support for Vennart's boys
― cockles (country matters), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
xp if only the Pankhursts were alive to see this ;_;
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe kerrang writers like oceansize but i guess the readers dont.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
or the oceansize msg board didnt mobilize the fans as well as the others did
or both
ha, i did think that as soon as i posted. there are a few boys that age in my family and this is their shit. xxxxxp
surprised at the lack of foo fighters. i haven't read kerrang in years obv.
lj i'd usually join you on certain middle class indiefuck britisher nonsense appreciation, like mansun or the animalhouse but... muse? really??? in my day you were either a muse stan or a radiohead stan.
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
still dig white pony and toxicity, those angry days when only a piccolo snare and eastern inflected melody will provide sufficient relief.
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
http://open.spotify.com/user/starsandheroes/playlist/3msgWIrSfCQg9SNWzEbQXb [the best i could do with limited resources]
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Kerrang's like the UK Alternative Press, right, where they used to be vaguely credible in a scuzzy way and now are just kinda eyeliner metal and gelled hair emo?
(Of course, the defining factor could be the shift from my tastes at 14-17 when I used to browse these mags, and my taste at 30. No doubt someone in the future will say that they remember when these mags used to cover real music, like My Chemical Romance and American Idiot.)
― THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Metal Hammer used to be like Kerrang and didn't cover any metal for about 10 years (they were even going to drop the Metal from their name in the 90s) Now they call themselves the defenders of the faith and pretend they were a metal mag all along. I wonder if Metal will one day replace emo and whatever kiddy stuff they cover now and Kerrang will try to pretend they supported it all along too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
No doubt someone in the future will say that they remember when these mags used to cover real music, like My Chemical Romance and American Idiot.
Insert Onion story about Pennywise fan grousing about Sum 41 here
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 August 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh pennywise
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Can I point out that the lead singer of 30 Seconds to Mars is Jared Leto?
Fourth-best album of the 21st century.
Just sayin'.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 7 August 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually I think the biggest surprise here, for me anyway, is Machine Head at #8!
― 3 mods 1 banhammer (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 August 2009 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link
we all used to read Kerrang at schoolfirst thought when looking at this list was: "no Korn no credibility"but then a google reveals that Korn's real contributions to the nu-metal canon were in the 90s. jesus!
― bare grills (tpp), Friday, 7 August 2009 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link
limp bizkit took their mantle
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link
watching Kerrang TV makes me feel like an old man what with all these bands who sound the same and look silly and whose names I forget once the video's done, but I've heard all but one of the bands on that list (Down?), so am now feeling delightfully with it again.
Quite a number of "what, *insert band here*, really?" moments on that list. What, The Darkness, really?
― Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 August 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link
You havent heard down?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont care for them but im sure you mustve heard em. Its phil anselmo and friends
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link
oh right, yeah I guess I have. I recommend they get a less innocuous name.
― Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 August 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I would have picked the one that came out last year for Down. Pretty kickass.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 7 August 2009 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
from wkipedia
Down is an American heavy metal supergroup formed in 1991 in New Orleans, Louisiana. In 2009, the band consists of vocalist Phil Anselmo, guitarists Pepper Keenan and Kirk Windstein, bassist Rex Brown, and drummer Jimmy Bower.Since its inception, Down has released three studio albums, NOLA (1995), certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America, Down II: A Bustle in Your Hedgerow (2002) and Down III: Over the Under (2007). Down is currently working on their upcoming fourth album entitled Down IV.
Since its inception, Down has released three studio albums, NOLA (1995), certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America, Down II: A Bustle in Your Hedgerow (2002) and Down III: Over the Under (2007). Down is currently working on their upcoming fourth album entitled Down IV.
One of the few Metal bands Kerrang covers. Phil Anselmo is still big business to them.
Any chance of emo dying off and trad metal making a return and being the biggest seller to kids so that kerrang will have to cover it again after an absence of 15 years?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Do you mean like NWOBHM/Priestian type trad metal? Not that they're either huge or especially great but that band Cauldron, on Earache, seem to be doing OK... realistically though I think shit (as in shit) like Bullet For My Valentine or Trivium are as trad as it's gonna get in terms of what teenagers are gonna buy in this day and age
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Mastodon as well I guess but they're not million-sellers are they? They're not changing the game on an especially visible level
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link
any sort of metal really (that isnt nu metal or emo or glam). I suppose trivium or job for a cowboy could count as thats the shit thats most likely to sell and both bands would be happy to fly the flag for metal.
Kerrang didnt even cover metalcore did it? as shit as metalcore is, im surprised it got ignored and emo got the coverage instead.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah Mastodon and High On Fire dont seem likely to sell millions of albums. They're too good for the public to like them sadly.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I think like Hatebreed and, I dunno, Bleeding Through got covered pretty well... again though there are (almost?) no metalcore bands selling in seven-figure sums, point being that Kerrang (like most mags) are adapting to the public's taste a lot more than they're influencing it
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link
do you think the writers at Kerrang like other stuff but are getting forced to cover what is selling? or do you think that they are hiring writers who do actually like it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
as for bands that arent selling seven-figure sums, they do nmestyle hype some shitty emo bands who either dont have an album out or have just released oneMr Passionhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46151000/jpg/_46151847_pa_passion203.jpg
so they could cover bands that dont sell shitloads. Or do you mean they will cover a genre that produces million sellers so they will cover the latest trend of emo as thats more likely to produce a big seller than some other form of metal?
Kerrang didnt even cover Nightwish and all those type bands that were huge in Europe did they?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't personally know anyone who listens to that faff but I feel like it's mainly ppl in their 20s/30s? Could be wrong
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think I've heard My Passion (lawl Mr Passion is a much better name) but they seem like a band who might stumble into some sort of success a la all the Funeral For A Friend type bands from round my way - so yeah in terms of 'getting in on the ground level' and that it's still basically market-led, I think
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
So Kerrang's readership is mainly under 18s now? (i know there was a survey result that more than 50% of Kerrangs readership are teenage females)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the proof's in the pudding don't you?
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Does stevie chick still write for Kerrang?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't *think* so but I only power-read it in WHSmiths...
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
With terrorizer been crap since the new editor took over, Metal Hammer being a lot of shit, and Kerrang being awful there's no good monthly/weekly metal mag. I don't care for Zero Tolerance at all. Rock-a-Rolla is ok but its not for everyone.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think metal has ever been well represented in the music press, in terms of quality writing... Kerrang 15-20 years ago might have had better bands to give big features to but it didn't exactly breed great journalism. Conversely, I know you think Terrorizer is covering some sucky bands ATM (I wouldn't disagree too much) but I honestly think the quality of the writing is pretty high still. Basically I feel like that at this stage, good print journalism about interesting music is a luxury more than an expectation
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice to see Opeth on this list.
― o. nate, Friday, 7 August 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
rock-a-rolla gets criticized for its writing but it at least covers good bands that get ignored elsewhere.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone here write for rockarolla?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the dude who posts as 'm the g' does but he's hardly ever here
― Status Quo hell at the end of the 80s (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 August 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah ive seen him.Hes scottish isnt he?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i'll never understand why people like Muse. One of the worst british bands ever.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link