so there's no Al Jolson thread?

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Long essay and discussion on Glenn Kenny's blog, about the film Wonder Bar but also Jolson in general, here:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2009/08/tales-from-the-warner-archives-3-wonder-bar-bacon-1968.html

A few years after Wonder Bar, Jolson played a kind of version of himself in The Singing Kid, which opens with an extended medley of Jolson hits, sung both in and out of blackface, before presenting a duet between a Jolson in mufti and genuine African-American singer and bandleader Cab Calloway, who trade verses of "I Love To Sing-a." Is this somehow by way of apology? Not necessarily; Jolson treats Calloway with the respect of an equal, but goes on to black up anyway later in the picture. Nothing is renounced; the notion of blackface as an offensive cultural desecration isn't considered. It's just a showbiz tradition, according to the world of these films.

Which is odd, and unsettling, and ought to be discussed. And is difficult to discuss without having the actual cultural artifacts at hand. And does having the actual cultural artifacts easily at hand give material comfort to contemporary racist forces? I couldn't say what a rigorous survey of those who've bought Wonder Bar and The Singing Kid from the Warner Archives would uncover, but my gut says, "Not so much." Which is not to say that we ought to expect, or even hope for, an official DVD release containing "Coal Black And De Sebben Dwarves" any time soon. And as for Song of the South, forget it.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i actually saw coal black and de sebben dwarves before a screening of allegro non troppo in nyc in the 80's. kind of an inspired disney-esque evening. (you can see coal black on youtube of course. but not in any kind of restored dvd quality.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i've been listening to various al jolson and "darkie shout" and southern 78s all week and there is a lot to take in there. culturally, artistically, etc. i csn't help but feel pretty far removed from the whole thing, and, yet...there is certainly plenty of mileage left in that old song and dance.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

a BRILLIANT stylist. completely compelling.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i know that there are entire books devoted to the subject, but this got an A+ from me:

http://www.believermag.com/issues/200402/?read=article_christgau

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the album you want btw: http://www.amazon.com/You-Aint-Heard-Nothin-Yet/dp/B0000028ZO/

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

also Modern-day minstrelry.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

rather timely in light of Roger Sterling's black face on last night's Mad Men.

methanietanner, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Al Jolson had an overbearing command of song that you can't help but be impressed by. even when he's beating you over the head with it. i dunno, that crazy american stew of his of jewish shmaltz and southern cornpone and god knows what else really is compelling.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe overbearing is the wrong word. unabashed? naked, almost.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUjj-PbC5Ec

sweetness.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Is trying to separate Jolson's brilliance (particularly wrt things like Jazz Singer) from his blackfacing, most iconic location of this kind of racism (part. as a Jew vis-a-vis Rogan) like trying to separate Hitler killing Jews from Hitler painting paintings? Cause I love Jolson completely and without irony in the first form, even as the second gives me discomfort.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Search: "Blue Skies," "Toot Toot Tootsie," "Back in Your Own Backyard..." basically the entire Jazz Singer album.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28hk97-vZdQ

tony dayo (dyao), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I love that short so much. (God. I'm a racist, aren't I?)

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Is trying to separate Jolson's brilliance (particularly wrt things like Jazz Singer) from his blackfacing, most iconic location of this kind of racism (part. as a Jew vis-a-vis Rogan) like trying to separate Hitler killing Jews from Hitler painting paintings?

oh, for fuck's sake. minstrelsy isn't that bad.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I wasn't saying minstrelsy is morally equivalent to genocide.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Artur Knight's Disintegrating the Musical: Black Performance and American Musical Film has a fantastic chapter on Jolson's use of blackface and black musical tropes in his hopefully no long obscure Hollywood musicals.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Arthur Knight, that is

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

have you ever seen Hallelujah I'm a Bum? Neo-socialist neo-operetta!

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I hadn't! but now I'm all psyched. Onto Netflix it goes.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw HIAB at the Film Forum recently, along with some Vitaphone shorts. Whole thing was amazing.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Among one of the many amazing things was that the score of HIAB was by Rodgers and Hart.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Teenage Jolson impersonating in the '70s:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2010/05/physical-evidence.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 May 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

so tired of all the brain-scratching about blackface. dude was an amazing stylist.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I come to this thread to recommend the book The Speed of Sound: Hollywood and the Talkie Revolution 1926-1930, by Scott Eyman.

Generation Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

fine, now go away.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 17 May 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah that's a great book. Thanx for bringing it up here, jrb.

The Jolson musicals are pretty easy to acquire now via Warner Archive. In another fantastic book about the era, A Song in the Dark: The Birth of the Musical Film, Richard Barrios rips mercilessly on The Singing Fool, Jolson's first feature after The Jazz Singer. Dramatically, yeah, it's the pits. But A LOT of it is just Jolson performing so...well, how bad is that?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

six years pass...

rewatched Hallelujah, I'm a Bum, where Al is king of the Central Park tramps... songs by Rodgers & Hart, and this one's neat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFSftTwXwM

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link


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