rolling pop 2010

and apparently we're gonna start off the year with vampire weekend knocking ke$ha off #1 on the albums chart

pretty sad that i made this thread which newly ubiquitous female pop star do you dislike more? before knowing that ke$ha was going to have a career

saw her performance on fallon last night & gaga should be suing for imagined copyright infringement

I'd never heard Tik Tok despite it hanging around the top 10 for the last 10 weeks So I went and listened to it on Youtube. It does have exactly the same tune as Just Dance.

An early nomination for single of the year would be Echo by Girl's Can't Catch. Huge drums and an even bigger chorus, I'm kinda shocked how addicted to it I am.

i read on wiki that tik tok steals the riff from kylie's "love at first sight" and it pretty much completely does

i think uffie should sue kesha for stealing her voice and 'tood.

yeah i'm sure amanda blank is pissed that spank rock couldn't get her a benny blanco connect from spank rock

ha, whoops

So did Dr. Luke do the alleged song stealing for Kesha since I think he's credited as a writer? In the NY Times profile of her she says she used to sing country and wants to return to that at some point.

I don't feel like the similarities are great enough to call either comparison "song stealing." If anything it's groove-stealing or riff-stealing. Luke definitely works from a tight formula that is not unlike what a lot of other pop songwriters are drawing from, but since most of the similarities have to do with the backing track he produced, I guess he'd be culpable in the supposed theft.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/arts/music/27rappers.html?pagewanted=all

From Caramanica's NY Times article on Kesha

“I love the Beastie Boys — that’s probably why ‘TiK ToK’ happened,” Ke$ha said. “Rap in general has never been my steez, but I like it.”

In the studio with Dr. Luke and the producer Benny Blanco, it took only three takes to get right. “I was kind of jokingly white-girl rapping over it, and they thought it was sick,” she said.

oh boy

i'm super intrigued by benny blanco btw. he's like 25 or something and co-wrtes/produces almost every (recent) dr. luke megasmash

3/9/88 (!) according to Wiki

jesus christ

it's shocking that a 21-year-old is having success in pop music?

J0rdan is only now beginning to come to that all-too-familiar realization in one's 20s that there are now thousands of people that are both younger than you and more successful.

nah but it is kind of unusual i think for someone that young to have a string of hits like he has been a part of while solely doing production/songwriting and no performing

xp yes that too

I've been watching VH1 the last few mornings (I just have basic cable which in my area means I get MTV and VH1 but I do not get MTV Hits or any of the other channels that supposedly play more music--country, Latin, etc.). There are so many bad power-ballads and faceless heartland pop-rock hits here. Ugh.

I'd take Kesha over this junk

Hearing the second Ke$ha single "Blah Blah Blah" with 30H!3 on the bridge makes me think that perhaps she should be grouped with them and Cobra Starship etc. more than Lady Gaga.

"Blah Blah Blah" is basically a companion piece to "Starstrukk".

It's def. the kind of stuff that makes me feel uncomfortable and self-conscious about growing older when it comes on the radio.

Since this is the de facto chart-geek thread, I thought I'd mention this letter I just sent to the New Yorker:

John Seabrook writes in Talk of the Town (Feb. 1) that four singles from Lady Gaga's first album "have gone to No. 1 on the Billboard chart--a remarkable, first-ever feat for a debut effort." This is somewhat misleading. Billboard publishes a wide range of charts, and the one for which Lady Gaga set the record is the Mainstream Top 40, a chart that monitors airplay on only a few dozen radio stations and has existed for less than 20 years. While Gaga's sudden success is certainly impressive, her performance on the older, better-known, and more-comprehensive Hot 100 chart is not quite as exceptional: there, two songs from her debut album have reached No. 1, which puts her behind eight artists, including Paula Abdul, George Michael, and Mariah Carey, who share the record of four.

Can't say I'm surprised at the omission, though. Journalists do this all the time when talking about Billboard. One of my biggest pet peeves is when a song or album is said to have topped "the charts," when it's usually only the Hot 100 or Billboard 200 that's being referred to. I get that not everyone is an expert about this stuff and so it probably seems pedantic to specify an actual chart, but it just seems sloppy otherwise. Even just saying "the Billboard album chart" would be fine -- in that case, it's implied that it's the general comprehensive chart and not one of the genre-specific ones.

People don't take "#1" as seriously as they used to (back in my day etc etc); I think the Destiny's Child album "#1s" was particular egregious - they've only had four #1 Billboard hit songs and there were 16 songs on that album, you figure it out.

I hope that Shinedown song "If You Only Knew" with its melodramatic croaking vocals listing off the time with a kind of when I need you now in the middle of the night theme does not rise higher up the pop chart. Iyaz "Replay" may be formulaic r'n'b but I like that formula better than Shinedown's.

"Replay" is awesome.

I like both the Shinedown songs I've heard...like Nickelback if they were good

You can have both groups. I don't hear much of a difference.

can someone post charts plz >:(

I like the Ke$ha album. It has more than a few really catchy, bouncey new Max Martin jams.

<3 <3 <3 the Ke$ha album

Did we ever figure out what this was all about?
http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami
What thread was that in?

nobody knows yet

pretty sure it's goldfrapp zzz

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/42727309.html

Ok, I hated Train's "Hey Soul Sister" on first listen but less so on subsequent listens. Kinda Plain White Tees feeling maybe. It's 9th on the Billboard Hot 100.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100

god, "carry out" is such a dogshit song -- fuck both of them for that

i hope trey songz jumps into the top 10 somehow

can't believe this new boyz song is a hit

"o let's do it", "lemonade" & "men lie, women lie" are all rising on hip hop/r&b & roscoe dash/soulja boy is in the big boy top 100

fuk this earth if "bad romance" gets denied a #1 spot because of "tik tok"

it won't be half as bad as all the shit that got denied #1 by BEP

yeah i was gonna note the "blame it"/"you belong with me" parallel

where is "lemonade"? fuck clicking ten times to find it, why can't they just lay it out? or can someone w/ access or whatever just post it plzzz

dude it's so easy

at the top click "charts" & then on the drop down menu click "hip-hop/r&b" and then you can scroll through the top 50

ACT LIKE YOU'VE USED THE INTERNET BEFORE

lol

well i meant the hot 100 and it's still broken up into tens, where to brainwasher & co get the simple lists they c&p? if i have to pay for a list of songs then fuck it

do*

they get it from some other board, or you can spend 3 mins scrolling through the songs by tens

>:(

ukmix.org, "Lemonade" is #1 on the heatseekers chart iirc

@jordan New Boyz?? is that still the Ray J joint?

It says New Boyz and Ray J on Billboard.

Yea, that Timbaland/Timberlake "Carry Out" number has Timba by numbers beats, dumb lyrics, and cliched flow from both of them.

roscoe dash/soulja boy is in the big boy top 100

Yesss. Just heard it for the first time last night.

er, where the chorus is a dead rip off of*

I think the key to remember is yeah, the songwriters and producers are obviously informed by western pop aesthetics, but the end product is still made for an audience w/ different expectations and from a different musical tradition... so tryin to use the exact same metrics to judge k-pop/j-pop as you would to judge western pop might not give you the most rewarding results

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2927

that TSJ post

yeah i dig that

your post i mean -- also the song tho

some other good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mbaK7fCtU

i really liked that BANG

pro tip, don't GIS after school bang

speaking of k-pop, my aunt (!!!) introduced me to this band JYJ　who apparently got kanye west on one of their songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlfel9lu-PU

i dig

good numbers here

6. R. KELLY – LOVE LETTER – 153,873 *DEBUT
7. DIDDY – DIRTY MONEY – LAST TRAIN TO PARIS – 100,786 *DEBUT

yeah thats not bad

i like that MONKEY MAJIK track a lot

you've got the majik in you

There has been so many rumours and incorrect reports surrounding the new Britney Spears single. However, what is officially true is that the 29-year-old held dancing auditions yesterday (December 22nd) for the music video of her new single ‘Hold It Against Me’. The music video is being choreographed by Britney’s pal Brian Friedman who has been sprouting off about yesterday’s casting on his twitter.

Friedman, who also choreographs on the UK X Factor, previously choreographed the singer’s visuals for ‘Toxic’ and ‘Me Against the Music’. In fact, one attendee at the audition described the routine as “Slave 4 U/Toxic/MATM type choreography”. A staggering 5,000 people is said to have attended the audition. ‘Hold It Against Me’, which is produced by Max Martin and Dr Luke, is set to exclusively premiere in January. The new album is scheduled to follow in March. Check out a photo below of yesterday’s casting.

this had better not be a takeoff of "if I told you you have a beautiful body"

...it probably is

ugh not max martin & dr. luke

it's britney spears, max is kind of a given, no?

it will probably be some childish sexual innuendo like they did for "3" and "If U Seek Amy". :/

she should just work with bloodshy & avant

+ danja

There has been so many rumours and incorrect reports

is this an official press release

christ

lol no

At No. 1 on Digital Songs, Bruno Mars' "Grenade" sells 559,000 downloads (up 164%) -- the third biggest sales week for a digital song in history. Right behind him this week at No. 2 is Katy Perry's "Firework" with 509,000 (up 165%) -- the fourth largest frame ever.

fuckin gift cards man

i'm beginning to think that "grenade" is a near classic tbh

so top 10 is:

1 Grenade
2 Firework
3 We R Who We R
4 What's My Name
5 Raise Your Glass
6 Black & Yellow
7 Tonight (I'm Fucking You) *smh at this*
8 Bottoms Up
9 The Time (Dirty Bit)
10 Just the Way You Are

really happy about wiz finally breaking the top 10

i have no beef with "grenade"

but like oh hey, a rap song that is actually a rap song in the top 10. never thought i'd see that.

i guess "6 foot 7 foot" was in the top ten last week. that's good too.

but it doesn't feel like nearly as much of a huge hit as b&y does

i thought it was called 6'7" but i'm seeing it listed as six foot seven foot everywhere, which kind of makes no sense

the sample goes "6 foot, 7 foot, 8 foot, hut"

i feel like "bottoms up" hasn't dipped below #11 for two months or something

def happy for wiz

the sample goes "6 foot, 7 foot, 8 foot, hut"

ha i can't even remember how it goes. haven't listened since that first underwhelming time.

and you're probably seeing it called that because that's what it's called.

http://www.lilwaynehq.com/images/blog/wayne-gunz-6-foot-7-foot-single-cover.jpg

yeah, "bottoms up" feels like it's been huge but really has just kinda been hanging there

the first single cover probably threw some ppl off

http://www.hiphopmusicdotcom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Lil-Wayne-ft.-Cory-Gunz-67-Single-Cover.jpg

ah, hadn't seen that

it's sort of minor i guess but i like that it's called "six foot seven foot" instead of "6' 7"" -- the former sort of leans more on wayne's lovable playful side as opposed to generic swagger stuff

really happy about wiz finally breaking the top 10

― The Reverend, Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:05 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ finally -- a rap song with no R&B singer by a rapper who's never had a major chart hit before rising to the top 10 about two months after the song's release is pretty damn fast.

it had been hanging just outside the top 10 for 2 or 3 weeks.

LEX: Chery Lloyd signed to Roc Nation!

yeah just saw! hoping it's true, there are always so many rumours doing the rounds about x factor contestants and roc nation would have had to buy her out of the syco deal :/

will.i.am tweeted that he'd recorded a song with cher while he was in london, too

Yeah, Jordan, and others who commented, very much welcome with any contribution at all over at the dedicated k thread.

i don't see the two or so rap songs getting plays from pop stations as being a new renaissance for the genre or anything though -- rap still has an audience and might be integrated with the current aesthetic but i doubt it'll ever again be the driving force it was in the 00s

i don't think anyone claimed that?

just saying, it seems to be a popular sentiment among the fratboy demographic that wiz and kid cudi are part of a "new movement" in rap which i don't think will manifest itself in any real sense

Keke Palmer has put her 'lost' second album from 2010/11 up on soundcloud:

http://kekepalmer.com