I really need to listen to this album again. At the moment, I can only remember the first two tracks and "Cop Shoot Cop" and, on basis of those recollections alone, I think it's amazing.
― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:44 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
there is a pretty big section of the middle of this record that is forgettable
― mizzell, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I Think I'm in Love is also the funniest track. People tend to get so wrapped up in the cosmic boo-hoo that they forget the humour of this album.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, voting that.
"Electricity" is way too obvious, I could have sung that song without ever having heard it before!
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 March 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I Think I'm in Love is also the funniest track. People tend to get so wrapped up in the cosmic boo-hoo that they forget the humour of this album
Voting that as well and yeah you're right it's funny, although I'm struggling to find much humour anywhere else in this album.
― anagram, Thursday, 11 March 2010 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link
All I meant was that there is some humour in the album, which critics tend to miss, not that it's wall-to-wall lols. There's a sense that he's poking fun at the self-indulgence of heartbreak even as he's wallowing in it, but it's certainly not the dominant tone.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 11 March 2010 10:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh man so many good songs. So glad I saw them on this tour at a small club. It was epic.
Used to be my go-to make out record. I know, obvious. But also effective.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i've always thought the disney-ish 'stop your crying' etc had a comedy element
this one -- i can kind of see it now. not so much when i was a moody 17-y-o lol but yeah it's there
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link
My gut is telling me to pick "I Think I'm In Love". If we could choose "Home of the Brave" and "The Individual" as one combined track then it'd be a tougher decision. "Stay With Me" is a darkhorse candidate.
I can't be bothered to sit through all of "Cop Shoot Cop" these days. It took me 10 years to realize that the final section, the part where they mellow out after the free jazz freakout, is the best part of the song.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
"I have a broken heart/But I'm too busy to be heartbroken" strikes me as a witty line, especially when it turns out that all the pressing business he has to attend to is doing drugs.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link
all they "hey man" stuff in "cop shoot cop" is p tongue-in-cheek (or do i mean NEEDLE IN ARM amirite) imo. except it's a double irony coz he actually was a junkie.
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
lot of those lyrics are taken from 'sam stone' by john prine (eg "there's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes")
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the two cds of demos etc are on spotify
― gfunkboy (history mayne), Friday, 12 March 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link
they are not as good as the finished records - surprise
actually that's not fair. this long version of electricity is better than the single, oddly.
― gfunkboy (history mayne), Friday, 12 March 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
is this album perfect? are the notes where they are suppose to be? i would say it pretty close to perfect. while i was listening to it tonight it brought back a bunch of memories from 1997. i can't say it is perfect because i can't play it all the time, need to be in the mood to listen but when i am, well than it's perfect.
voting for "Cool Waves" because it not getting any love.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 13 March 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
is the reissue remastered?. i remember reading on the spz messageboard that it still sounds the same. which is why i didn't purchase it.
― Creeztophair, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link
No reason whatsoever to remaster it.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i agree, but i can't justify buying the album again for demos and the elvis version of the title track. which, in my opinion, isn't as good as the version that made the album.
plus it's expensive.
― Creeztophair, Saturday, 13 March 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"Cop Shoot Cop" = "Riders on the Storm" btw
― Tibetan 'buca the Dead (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 March 2010 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link
come again? csc is kinda good for a start
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 March 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link
in a funny way, listening to the outtakes etc has helped me get back into this album. it felt like a kind of monolith, back in the day, and in the last ten years i've listened to LGM way more. the outtakes "humanize" it. not the right word, but.
― gfunkboy (history mayne), Saturday, 13 March 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 14 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
It is curious to me that this was the album that broke them (literally and figuratively?). I mean, it's great, practically perfect, but I'm not sure significantly better than/different from the previous two. I guess I agree with one of the above that folks weren't really paying close attention to "LGM" and "Pure Phase." I know I caught them on Rollercoaster in Philly in '92, and headlining the shitty Double Door in Chicago '95, I think. Then I saw them open for Radiohead in '98, but for the life of me I can't remember seeing the band on its own c. "LAG ...", or what sized venues they played.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I was a late comer to the Spiritualized party (circa 2001, high school) and jumped on board with Let It Come Down, then worked backwards. One of my favorite ever concert experiences is seeing Spiritualized two nights in a row, 2003 tour I think, at a tiny 400 person venue, front row at J. Pierce's feet.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 15 March 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't listened to Let It Come Down or Amazing Grace in seven years or so and don't feel any desire to, should I sell them y/n
― parm goin' ham (sic), Monday, 15 March 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Sounds like a question for my new thread:
Pruning your physical music collection (CD, vinyl, etc.)... thoughts?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
(And, to answer your question: no.)
FOPP in the UK were selling AMAZING GRACE for fifty pence at one point, so don't expect riches
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
1. Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space (I Can't Help Falling in Love) 18
Not sure how this got 18 votes. I mean, I love the fuck out of it, but in context of the whole album it seems like an overture/prelude/statement of purpose, a sign of things yet to come.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
bah missed this thread cuz of jury duty.
would have voted the title track or I Think I'm in Love probably but agree in general with comments that this is overrated by people otherwise unaware of the rest of their catalog (I assume this is the case, cuz everyone familiar with their catalog - including me - seems to prefer something else)
also I was at the SF show that half of Fucked Up Inside is pulled from (the half that starts with Medication iirc) and the JAMC were awful. Also someone jumped onstage to try and hug that Curve chick and she decked him. don't remember anything else about their set lolz...
― Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Then I saw them open for Radiohead in '98,
^^^this was a terrible tour for them. they had to cut all their songs in half, it seemed like.
― Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the right three songs came out on top but I voted for Broken Heart, it's real top 20 songs of all time contender for me.
Stay With Me deserved to do a bit better.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
But boy! Has anybody slogged through the 'sessions' CD pack?― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:09 (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:09 (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Hmm, I thought I'd said something like "oh boy, 3 different versions of "CSC", that's gonna be great
In any case, I take back what I hadn't said: It's more like an extended directors cut alternate 2CD version.
Worth the price of admission for the bit in the alternate "I think I'm in love" where Jason brings in the backing choir with "OK, all you girls sing along real loud, and then I'll tell you more about how I feel!" which brought the lols right there.
― Mark G, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
it's on spotify so definitely worth the price of admish. £30 tho? maybe when i get a job.
― marc loi-y jagger (history mayne), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
srsly this album has one of the best opening tracks ever
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Stay With Me deserved to do a bit better. - agree that this is a fine song, but I never really considered it to be a *true* album cut b/c it first served as a b-side on the "Let it Flow" singles.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Saw them in Detroit with the Dandy Warhols opening right after this came out. It was a formative experience for me. First and last time I drove over 8 hours to see a rock show. They were my absolute favorite band at the time and it was the summer after I'd graduated high school. There was no where to go but down from here, really. I wish I could get a hold of the live tracks from the "Let If Flow" cd singles. I remember liking them more than Fucked Up Inside. It has my favorite version of "Take Good Care of It."
― Trip Maker, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Was that the sold-out show at St. Andrew's Hall in the sweltering heat of summer '97? If so I was there too & it was a fantastic show, one of the best prob. It was like baking in an oven for several hours, but that only seemed to make the coolness of the music more therapeutic. Spiritualized is probably the (non-local) band I've seen most over the years, mostly in Detroit. They had a particularly large & loyal following there & seemed to come through at least once or twice a year back in the late 90s.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
kind of lolling at myself because there are a bunch of individual songs on here that I'd kind of blurred together into one awesome megasong
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh their entire career is kind of one awesome megasong
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Pillbox, it was the St Andrew's Hall show and yeah, it was hot, but I'm from Memphis so I didn't even really notice tbh.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I even went to the signing at the record store earlier in the day.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
At Play it Again in Royal Oak, no? If I recall correctly, the owner of that store had befriended JS & sort of acted as ambassador for all things space-rock/shoegaze in the Detroit area. I've been to Spiritualized signings there too, but I think that was during the Pure Phase tours.
lol small world gets ever smaller on the internet.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
er.. it might have been Neptune Records at that point. I don't remember when they changed the name of the store, but it was right around then.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Correct me if I'm wrong... I always got the impression that this was the album that "broke" them in the UK because:
a) by 1997 britpop was definitively over, grand and lushly produced statements were the order of the day, and this did "overblown" much more effectively than Be Here Now (while also providing a bridge between the britpop era and then, say, the crossover of Mercury Rev the following year); and
b) 1997 was also a big era for people latching onto rock albums as "comedown" albums, and while the dance audience that might have gotten into this album probably was smaller than the rock audience that would have been into it anyway this generated a certain a level of feedback loop momentum. See also: Chemical Bros remix of "I Think I'm In Love".
For both of the above reasons, the album felt twinned with Urban Hymns at the time - only, like, much better. But at any rate if there was gonna be a year that Spiritualized would cross over, it was 1997.
― Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
okay if I'd played this before the poll closed, I certainly would have voted "Cop Shoot Cop", omg
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Tim F OTM
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
It was in Royal Oak, don't remember the name. But I do remember salivating over all the (OMG OOP RARE!!!VINYL!!!) shoegaze and psych records.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
post-britpop yes, but i don't think "BHN" had much to do with it. it came out before then, almost simultaneously with "ok computer". iirc both were sold as "pushing sonic boundaries" and whatnot (despite the trad instrumentation, obvious debt to the past, etc, of LAGWAFIS). very similar to mercury rev tho, yeah, in that you could read the music press in the mid-90s and not have heard of either band, but then they blew up lke crack in the 80s.
otm. cf chemical bros remix of that one mercury rev track.
― Tim F, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:37 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark
exactly. plus the girlfriend switcheroo context.
― marc loi-y jagger (history mayne), Monday, 15 March 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link