Loaded vs. American Beauty

Of course technically, Lou Reed, Neil Young, Bob Dylan AND George Harrison aren't really boomers. Neil Young comes closest, I think.

yeah, more like "boomer-approved 60s legend" comebacks

i'm sure that hearing "got my mind set on you" was one of the first george harrison solo joints i heard.

This and the Wilburys were great gateways to all kinds of sixties rock.

ehh not quite...got my mind set on you wz a jam when I wz seven tho

(not that I'm arguing - Graceland is better than everything mentioned on this thread so far, except for maybe Loaded)

― emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Holy shit, you have to be kidding me.

not at all, Graceland is impeccable work

When the Touch of Grey video came out it was actually the first Dead song I ever heard and I was totally shocked - I thought that they would have sounded like Black Sabbath based on all the skull images and the band's name.

heh me too. i'm guessing this was a pretty common reaction.

(by kids)

I think I was 12 when it came out so yeah

this thread has been all about reminiscing about MTV in the late 80s when we were all wee ones.... :D

(today at least)

let's get back on topic
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That guy didnt play on Graceland.

he's better than Creedence though.

Finding out that George Harrison was in the Beatles was huge for me.

That guy didnt play on Graceland.

he did play left field for the Dodgers tho

I just thought of him as some Kenny Loggins-style beardo.

that's awesome

shakey mo you rate graceland as a better album than american beauty

its songs better than the songs on american beauty

just making sure I read you right before I say "wtf"

i sense a poll coming on

I have never willfully given much thought to American Beauty (see post way up there re: my Dead exposure) whereas I listen to Graceland all the time and have pretty much ever since it came out so yes

basically if it contains Bob and Phil's shitty ass singing, I am turning it off

like you know how you can't handle Fogerty YELLING AT YOU? well I can't handle the Dead's I AM WHEEZING OFF KEY AT YOU

yeah I feel you, that held me off the dead for many years (after a v. young pothead "I'm supposed to like these guys" interest in them phase) - but yeah, the songs on American Beauty just tower over anything on Graceland in my opinion

i like jerry's voice and i'm not really a dead fan

he sounds sad and exhausted and makes me blue

hey its rough being a fat junkie

be nice

as the old saying goes, do not speak ill of The Dead
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lol maybe! i don't know too many fat junkies. to maintain that weight while being that high must've required some hard-core calorie cramming

shakey mo you rate graceland as a better album than american beauty

^he also rates it higher than fragile, close to the edge, funhouse, every vu album, and every other album that has been mentioned on this thread. I'll have some of what he's been smoking.

haha okay I don't rate it higher than EVERY Velvets album (forgot they had all been mentioned). Funhouse, eh its good and groundbreaking and scary and everything but I def. listen to Graceland more.

also I am almost out of what I have been smoking, sorry

basically if it contains Bob and Phil's shitty ass singing, I am turning it off

― emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:04 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Phil only sang one song his whole career!

sings plenty of backup tho, right?

Hold the presses. Phil sang more than one song.

"Pride of Cucamonga" is a fantastic tune.

According to Rock Scully's account,Jerry was living off of heroin and Skittles or something.

Yeah, man. Phil sings "Unbroken Chain" and some other things besides "Box."
He really has a hard time with it live, though. Didn't know he sang the lead on Box of Rain for a while, still sort of hard to believe.

Not long after 'Mars Hotel' Lesh's voice fell apart. He didn't sing for, like, six years something. He then underwent some surgery and started singing live again in the 80s, I believe.

when i saw the Dead in the 90s, Phil sang that Robbie Robertson song "Broken Arrow" which I think Rod Stewart had a hit with? Anyway, it was ok.

bob weir's live version of "good lovin" where he was wearing pedophile eyeglasses and a safari shirt and shorts on some live at winterland thing i saw on PBS was the most embarrassing live performance i have ever seen.

Bob would be in line for many of those, actually. The "Bobby Touch", so to speak.

To tell you the truth, Phil's vocal on the studio take of "Box" isnt exactly Sinatra either.

yeah but it has so much presence & feeling

I mean ppl reppin for Lou for God's sake Reed aren't really in a position to call out ppl for their singin'

just sayin'

bob weir's live version of "good lovin" where he was wearing pedophile eyeglasses and a safari shirt and shorts on some live at winterland thing i saw on PBS was the most embarrassing live performance i have ever seen.

but yeah some of the bob weir solo stuff I've heard curls my fucking toes. gimme a junkie over a cokehead any day of the week, thanks

yeah but it has so much presence & feeling

^agreed, it's imperfection works in its favor, definitely.

Lou's a great vocalist (when he was actually trying/had a voice, ie pre-1982 or so)

yes but he is a terrible singer - once you like the dead, jerry's a great vocalist, too, "vocalist" really only means "I buy into some/all of his schtick & have decided I like him" imo

I'm sorry, but I have to cut Phil all kinds of slack for "Box of Rain" since he wrote it during the time he was visiting his father who was dying of cancer. It resonates with me because I was doing the same thing for six months before I lost my father to cancer last July (not writing a song just visiting my dying father in the hospital). Now, all kinds of shit strikes me emotionally that I would have been able to laugh at or shrug off before my father passed away, and "Box of Rain" is one of those things.