mccartney ii is sick

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mccartney ii is sick

― dmr, Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:41 PM (3 years ago)

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of chatter on this, no committed thread 2 it

holler if u know about the double disc bootleg

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T GO CHAAAAAAAAAASING WATER-FALLLLZ

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

"darkroom" sounds like a p-funk home demo in the best way possible

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

linda mccartney i was sick

buzza, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I have heard people talk about this record a lot this year for some reason.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

cos it's so rad

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I assume it was rad the previous 30 years too, though. Seems like everyone discovered it at the same time.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

sanskrit (rip/awol) found me my first copy of this

just got a cleaner one at a stoop sale for a quarter

dmr, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

When I first heard "Temporary Secretary" at an indie club in 2003, I knew this album's time had come.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"Temp Sec" is amazing, but it's all about the vocoder & conga break in "Goodnight Tonight". Wonderful album! McCartney I is pretty wonderful too!

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

top 10 easily. "check my machine" - bside of waterfalls - is wackiest thing recorded to tape. most of the bsides of those tracks are amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8XwXeDeFJA

lunch box/ odd sox. dude who made the video has a skip in his record and even edits his video to go along w/it o_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nce5tFyqMk

jaxon, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

double disc bootleg?

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 06:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah never heard that.

secret friend is a beezer.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 07:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://octaner.blogspot.com/2007/05/lost-mccartney-ii-album.html

jaxon, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

was "Goodnight Tonight" included in a rerelease? It was originally a stand-alone single.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

This guy has all the unreleased and altered tracks up on YouTube (except "Secret Friend," but do a search because other people have posted it).

Original track listing:

Side 1 (This entire side is instrumentals, apart from some heavily buried vocals or spoken bits)
Front Parlour (About 1:30 longer than the released version)
Frozen Jap (About 2:00 minutes longer)
All You Horseriders
Blue Sway

Side 2
Temporary Secretary
On the Way
Mr. H Atom
Summer's Day Song (Instrumental version)
You Know I'll Get You Baby
Bogey Wobble

Side 3
Darkroom (1:20 longer)
One of These Days
Secret Friend (Slightly shorter than the b-side version/bonus track on the CD)
Bogey Music

Side 4
Check My Machine (3 minutes longer than the b-side/bonus track)
Waterfalls
Nobody Knows
Coming Up (About 1:30 longer)

There was a bit remixing on some of the shortened tracks. The rest of the songs are probably identical to the released versions.

IMHO, most of the unreleased tracks were the obvious choices to drop when it became a single album. "Horseriders" is annoying, "Blue Sway" is bland, "Mr. H Atom" and "You Know I'll Get You Baby" might as well be instrumentals--both lyrics are two lines repeated over and over--although "Atom" chugs along nicely (and it's short), and "Bogey Wobble" doesn't live up to the deeply weird "Bogey Music."

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

TS: McCartney "Check My Machine" vs. 'Mats "Answering Machine"

Phil D., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking weird... i had a dream about this record last night (maybe the night before) and i've never knowingly heard anything on it except "coming up". i can't say i've read any ilx threads lately where it's been discussed in any great detail either.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"Check My Machine" was the first song he recorded on his new home recording console.
I like it's utilitarian nature.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this got hipster-reevaluated at least four years ago. I have always loved it, ever since I had it on 8 track, in 1981.

akm, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

goodnight tonight wasn't on this but it might be on the EMI reissue. I don't think it was from the same sessions; I know it was credited to wings, I can't tell if it was actually a solo recording or not.

akm, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

goodnight tonight wasn't on this but it might be on the EMI reissue. I don't think it was from the same sessions; I know it was credited to wings, I can't tell if it was actually a solo recording or not.

akm, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

It was a band recording, but, yeah, it was included on one of the reissues.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

At least it contains "Waterfalls". That is something at least....

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, this album is kinda annoying

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this got hipster-reevaluated at least four years ago. I have always loved it, ever since I had it on 8 track, in 1981.

― akm, Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

post of the week

j/k lol simmons (history mayne), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, this album is kinda annoying

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:35 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya hella overrated imo

max, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Never cared for it either. It sounds more primitive and half-assed than McCartney, actually (EVERYBODY BOGEY BOGEY BOGEY BOGEY).

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I can see the novelty appeal but yeah it sounds really cheap and unimaginative, loads of pointless repetition, containing only the most skeletally sketched ideas.

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

part of the appeal

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Check My Machine is siiiiiick, ty for posting jaxon

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

"Bogey Music" is, in part, intentionally bad because it's supposed to be an exploitation record (the first record made for the emerging Bogey market). But McCartney is such a great craftsman that he also throws in that cool instrumental break. It's also quite chilling when he calls the Bogeys "suckers."

timellison, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't understand that at all.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a little note about it in italics on the lyrics page.

timellison, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Taylor Parkes on Macca in The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/01922-paul-mccartney-the-beatles-wings-the-best-of

piscesx, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

An excellent essay! It strikes the right note: baffled but awestruck. A few months ago my bud and I, listening to "Let'Em In" on satellite radio, marveled at how a song this determinedly ridiculous -- a song about a doorbell! with a doorbell sound! with military snares!! -- sailed into the Top Five.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I've been waiting for McCartney 3 for like ever. His #'d solo albums are the best.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

ya hella overrated imo

― max, Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:42 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

disappointed in u if ur serious

dmr, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i am, i just cant get into it

max, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

max, does this help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo

future American striker hero (lukas), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

j/k about disappointment obviously but I would have thought it would have been up your alley. Darkroom, Coming Up, Temp Secretary, Check My Machine are all classics imo and the ballads totally grew on me. I just think of it as a great four-tracky weird bedroom pop record.

dmr, Thursday, 1 July 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

he was almost my stepdad

jaxon, Thursday, 1 July 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

what?

the ballad on it are incredible obviously, waterfalls and one of these days are, I think, two of the best songs he ever wrote (that includes any of the beatles work). and the thin sound of the rest of it is exactly what is good about it.

akm, Thursday, 1 July 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Great essay by Taylor Parkes. I do like the sound of Paul's 70s life-style: happy family life, a sympathetic soul mate who he could make music and go horse-riding with, and being cheerfully bonged out at all times.

I think this might have been one of his happiest times. I remember seeing an interview where he was saying that in the late 70s the Beatles hysteria had died down in the UK - enough that he could get the train from Sussex to Charing Cross and walk to his office in Soho Square without much hassle. One John died the hysteria started up again and that free and easy moment disappeared forever.

Bob Six, Thursday, 1 July 2010 07:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Loving these outtakes so far. Thanks!

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, "Blue Sway" sounds like Ashra. It even has a tempo change.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I do love the Coming Up video, classic Paul. and a nod to the Sparks even

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

never been a huge fan of this record ... and yet i'm considering downloading the double lp version on the octaner blog ... paul is sometimes at his best when he's at his most tossed off.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just kidding. Mostly. A few years ago he came into the radio station my mom works at and was flirting with her, but she was recently divorced and didn't see the signs. She's got some of it recorded. He sang her happy birthday.

jaxon, Thursday, 1 July 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't heard it in a while, but I remember listening to "Pipes of Peace" once in headphones and being super-impressed by the arrangement. (George Martin worked on that record, of course.)

timellison, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Especially the bit toward the end, I think - is there a full orchestra on that?

timellison, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I had "All the Best" as a kid, and I remember it started off great but halfway through really demonstrated why he was so hated, after the plunge into the most ultimate syrupy stupid lame cheesy pop you've ever heard in your life.

side four sucks balls if you can't take Kintyre tbh

underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have pwned (sic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Looking at the personnel listings - maybe it's not that many players. I remember the tabla on there.

timellison, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

If "No More Lonely Nights" is the example of syrupy stupid lame cheesy pop, I've got my finger on SB ready to go.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

All The Best should have replaced "My Love" with "Press."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but this is while i was a kid. In this post-Ariel Pink world where 80s cheese is fine, I find it much easier to appreciate.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Ariel Pink. In a McCartney thread.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

HE'S IN THE BOG!!

Mark G, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

Ringo has died of dysentery.

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

OK, so I brought back Then Play Long 36 hours after saying I wouldn't; let's just say "popular demand" is responsible, but anyway: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/paul-mccartney-mccartney-ii.html

Don't take away your blog, Marcello, I've only just started with it and it's so great.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 January 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

I was surprised how many people said that to me (but like you I myself am anxious to see how the "story" turns out)!

Those hit counts? I'm responsible for a lot of those.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

SHANGRI-LAS VERSUS THE VILLAGE PEOPLE

timellison, Monday, 25 March 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

discovering McCartney II was a highlight of 2014

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 07:53 (nine years ago) link

wow, temporary secretary sounds like drexciya

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 08:21 (nine years ago) link

"Temporary Secretary" v likely my fave post-Beatles thing of his

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

its so obvious somebody in animal collective was hyped on mccartney ii

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

I like a lot of this record, but I don't listen to it as often as I do other McCartney albums these days.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Yeah temp sec blates = #1

I, (dog latin), Friday, 20 February 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_K6jrim30

timellison, Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

Ha, no way! Seems a bit weird to see 2015 McCartney (and his touring band) performing this song. It'd be great if he did a whole set of some of his more interesting post-Beatles numbers.

Actually really like that. His voice not being able to hit the high notes so much makes the chorus less annoying.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 May 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link

hey my parents were at that show. my mom hates that song, which is probably why it's taken so long for him to play it live.

qualx, Monday, 25 May 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Dude is playing "Temporary Secretary" to a packed crowd at MetLife Stadium in NJ right now

you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 August 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Hoffman-forum rumor has it there's a "McCartney III" coming before the end of the year. I'll take it

J. Sam, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

you guys

MCCARTNEY III IS COMING

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/paul-mccartney-new-album-mccartney-iii-1077937/

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 22 October 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

sick

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 22 October 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

Is this the one with Gary Cherone?

bagel in the streets, donut in the sheets (morrisp), Thursday, 22 October 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

lol

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

IMHO, his last decent record, Chaos & creation... was made almost entirely by himself, so bodes well for me, perhaps.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link

agreed

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Just noticing that Mr H Atom is very William Onyeabor.

vmajestic, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link

I love that Get Back has sent all us ILMers to revive every solo McCartney thread en masse.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link

(and yes, good call)

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

great call

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 12 December 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

Sorry that McCartney ii is sick, hope he feels better soon

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 December 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

wow yet another example of me being right on the internet for starting this thread

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 12 December 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link

Personally I credit dmr

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link

with starting the thread? bold choice.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 12 December 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

Picked up a vinyl Beach Boys Love You today, and upon revisiting I feel it is the Pet Sounds to McCartney II's Sgt. Pepper.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 December 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xpvmyTceE

MaresNest, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:10 (six months ago) link

alex is killing it at the moment

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 12 October 2023 23:14 (six months ago) link

very fun video!

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 13 October 2023 12:14 (six months ago) link

I wish paul would play “temporary secretary” live again. it’s great that he did it in 2015 but he may not know just how big it still is now. the people have spoken!

houdini said, Friday, 13 October 2023 12:51 (six months ago) link

Picked up a vinyl Beach Boys Love You today, and upon revisiting I feel it is the Pet Sounds to McCartney II's Sgt. Pepper.

I’m told Paul bought copies of Love You to give to all his friends and his favorite song of all time is “Honkin’ Down the Highway.”

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 13 October 2023 18:06 (six months ago) link

xp It looks like he played it one time in 2022, but that was during a VIP soundcheck set. Other than that he hasn't played it since 2017. I'm still futilely hoping he'll whip out "Secret Friend" one of these days...

J. Sam, Friday, 13 October 2023 19:14 (six months ago) link

secret friend is mr bellamy to temporary secretary's fuh you

weird spacey mccartney is so much more fun than creepy horny mccartney and I don't know why that song has caught on so much lately other than the wtf is this the silly love songs guy factor (which you can get with other better songs)

Left, Friday, 13 October 2023 20:11 (six months ago) link


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