okay so this is some ill 80s revival shit--obviously a little bit of peter gabriel (otherwise why would i even be fucking with it) but mostly sort of uhhhh new wavey? i dont really know about music, except that this rules. (cutty was the one that "hipped me" to this dude so you know this shit is on point)
anyway i know it deserves a thread now because hipster runoff wrote about it: http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/08/will-twin-shadow-be-the-only-harvestable-buzzband-of-2k10.html
you can download some mp3s there. "i can't wait" is a jam. and now when this shit goes huge you can all be like "max was there from the very beginning."
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
annoyed that you werent the first to post that cee-lo song huh
― just sayin, Thursday, 26 August 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Those songs were boring. Sorry
― van smack, Thursday, 26 August 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link
oh wow i didnt realize...
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
now i feel pretty embarrassed for starting this thread
"max was there from the very beginning."
I put "Castles in the Snow" on one of my mixes LAST YEAR. So, no.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
FURST
multiple xposts
― unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh no, wait...I was thinking about the wrong one. I put "Castles in the Snow" on one my mixes in APRIL. Still, no.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
oh christ can we just talk about how good this is instead of the joke i made about being there first
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's good. The dude looks kind of like a cross between Phil Lynott and a genie.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
highlights so far for me are "i cant wait" and "tyrant destroyed"
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
highlight so far is "yeah i like muscle cars"
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
so i guess 2011 is going to be about unfiltered, unadulterated 80s pop then? huh.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
this is much better than that swedish faux toto b.s. u tried to push on us before
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Montee
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
that was matt dc, and it was good
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
if you dont like toto i dont like you ®
really stretching to hear the peter gabriel connection. doesn't come anywhere near as as TVOTR sometimes do. as much chris de burgh as peter gabriel, but not in a bad way. "slow" kinda reminds me of the smiths, and in some distant way the bronski beat.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It's high noon in Brooklyn but its always midnight on southern, dead end suburban streets. Here, there is total silence except for the house at the very end, where inside a tin roof garage, teenagers are kissing for the first time. The humidity is too great, the boys peel off white t’s and the girls cheeks are flushed, beet red under the garage’s two fluorescent stripes. In a pond behind the house an alligator waits for a snow birds’ Pomeranian to take its night stroll. A child is sleep walking for the first time. Some one is running away for the last time. The music is too loud on the 12 D battery boom box radio, the cops are on their way. It’s at this moment you hear the music of Twin Shadow on a radio station transmitting suburban ghost dreams that sound like a slow motion shot of a cannon, singing about spirits, visions, and aural hallucinations cutting through the first American night.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
what the hell is that
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
really stretching to hear the peter gabriel connection
That's Francis and the Lights where it's very pronounced. I don't hear it all in Twin Shadow.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
artist's statement
xpost
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
"tyrant destroyed" is apparently the suburban ghost dreams part
really stretching to hear the peter gabriel connection. doesn't come anywhere near as as TVOTR sometimes do.
Ha, "Castles in the Snow" reminded me of TVOTR.
― jaymc, Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
really enjoying the suburban ghost dreams part btw
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― max, Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
whoa whoa whoa -- i didnt say anything about toto, i said montee& they fit in w/ your 'personal brand' so i associated them w/ you the retro style felt like the only 'trick', the transcendent bridge or w/e ... spot on pastiche but not more than pastiche
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
that artist statement tells me everything i need to know about never listening to this
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, out of all the '80s big pop fetishists out there, Montée are among the least interesting.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:11 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark
u might be reading it too literally
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, it works better if you laugh
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
still kinda o_O
some of these songs work fine as demos, but it all screams for a big, glossy 80s production
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
specifically thinking of "when we're dancing"
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
only listened to 2 songs, but so far this is rad
― just sayin, Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it is rad, and it doesn't let up. there isn't a bad song on here. otoh, it starts to sound a bit wallpapery after a while. like dude has made a such a close study and perfect reproduction of 80s moody pop that it eventually gets swallowed up by your memories of other stuff. "tether beat" is quite a standout though, love the vibe and quizzical guitar.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the guys voice sounds like peter gabriels voice
― max, Thursday, 26 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont know why i bother starting threads on ilm im always disappointed when people dont love stuff as much as i do
*sighs heavily*
just do not hear the peter gabriel thing at all, not even on "castles in the snow", which otherwise sounds exactly like TVOTR sounding like peter gabriel. i do like it in spite of it not sounding even a tiny bit like peter gabriel.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 August 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
this thread is a pretty good example of 'branding'
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i really like these tunes max, thanks for starting this thread
― caek, Saturday, 28 August 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link
just remember: i was there first
― max, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
putting you in the acknowledgments of my thesis right now
― caek, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i preferred the start of this thread
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
cool dog
― dayo, Sunday, 29 August 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_f3SZ5Tu916o/SRhNTCu-vJI/AAAAAAAAIJ4/yv79gkYN-JY/s400/poochie.gif
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 August 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
what is this crap? where's the steel guitar?
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 29 August 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
see best line in "graceland" thread
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 August 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Pitchfork gives it an 8.4 and their best new music tag.....let the backlash/indifference begin.
― Tim. E "LazRus" Lucas (Prose b4 Hoes...and Big Hoos), Monday, 4 October 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link
really loving this so far
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 October 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the second album is pretty poor. some of the lyrics are horrendous and make it hard to listen to.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
fyi i prefer star wars
― ledge, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
Finally got round to playing the first album today (like I said earlier in this thread I've owned it for months now) It totally blows Confess away. This album is incredible! When We're Dancing and Yellow Balloon are my early highlights.
The other day I was reading his reviews on Rate Your Music and came across one for Forget that said, Where did the interesting songs, beautiful vocals, and strange production go? I think they were being way too harsh on Confess but I can see what they mean. Forget is quite unique and just beautiful in places, Confess is way more straight forward and seems a little hollow in comparision. Of course Five Seconds still rules all.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
so which one of these albums is better?
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
recently picked up Confess, and it's def holding my attention, but it's also giving me a second-guessy feeling which i haven't really figured out.
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
the first is way better
― flopson, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
upthread there's an argument about if/how he sounds like peter gabriel. whether he does or not seems a little beside the point.
i forget who argued this (reynolds probably), but there was an argument out there, in the flush of the "80s boom" ten years ago now, that all of the chilly, harsh, dominatrixy, ice queen type vocals that were all over electroclash and neo-nuwave at the time were a serious misremembering of 80s. that the 80s were a time of very lush and florid and soulful vocals; even about vocal pyrotechnics being attempted by people who really couldn't do them (phil oakey, hi) -- iirc the end of this piece wondered when the bigger, cheesier, sweatier 80s would come back into fashion
i have this in mind because it sounds to me like TS is trying to fully inhabit the lame side of the 80s, the grand reach of "boys of summer" or phil collins or even clapton's "behind the mask". certainly on ilm (and in my house) this is a very natural and welcome kind of move. seems obvious to describe it here, even.
to try to put my finger on it, Confess is giving me a play-acting feeling. like running into someone who always cops an accent. like he's treating 80s arena-pop the same way rockabilly or bluegrass bands treat their referent sources. is he a roots act?
"run my heart" rules pretty hard though.
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― слабоумие и отвага (cozen), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
first one is better
― max, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
all right, shit
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
i have this in mind because it sounds to me like TS is trying to fully inhabit the lame side of the 80s, the grand reach of "boys of summer" or phil collins or even clapton's "behind the mask".
totally, see also rhye and the one vocal track on cfcf's new ep
― max, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
or chad valley for that matter
― max, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a full calendar year behind on all music fyi
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
thx tho!
haha i am paying extra close attention b/c i have been waiting for this particular flavor of 80s revivalism to break wide since tv on the radio
― max, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
oh man i never liked them
― goole, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:02
What new CFCF EP? Or do you mean Exercises?
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I mean the David sylvian half cover on exercises
― max, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
Ah. I got all excited for a moment as Exercises was one of my favourite releases of last year.
― groovypanda, Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
which rhye tracks/lp do you have in mind, because i'm not hearing it?
― caek, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
MUSO POST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYknpGqOcU
i figured out what he's doing on guitar here. it's an alternate tuning! and a pretty odd one; it's tuned to an Eb maj 7 chord
Eb Bb Eb G Bb D
i wonder how he came up with that, and if he writes in that tuning a lot. somebody should ask him!
― goole, Thursday, 28 February 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
Someone recently told me that George Lewis Jr. was in a Boston punk band, Mad Man Films. I found their MySpace today:
https://myspace.com/madmanfilms/music/songs
The songs sound very early-aughts, but nonetheless, are pretty fun.
From a harmonic and lyrical perspective, “Betsy” sounds like a punk precursor to stuff on Forget. Anyway, enjoy.
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 23 September 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
So weird. I love him.
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 23 September 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
Did we ever talk about "To the Top" here?
It's not exactly Jim Steinman "huge," but it's the most luxuriously grandiose track TS has ever put out. lurve it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
"the official ilm thread started by max"
― Treeship, Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
A+
I really didn't like To the Top at all. It's not really the direction I wanted him to go in at all.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 26 September 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
To the Tops's cool, I like it.
― nxd, Monday, 29 September 2014 08:44 (nine years ago) link
So, I had no idea this guy has a new album coming out next week. Surprised there's been no talk about it.
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/08/390941870/first-listen-twin-shadow-eclipse
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
major label no less
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
great record.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
weird that only 4 tracks are on spotify, npr has the whole thing tho
― gr8080, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:43 (nine years ago) link
The 4 tracks on Spotify have been staggered out as "single" releases.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Not really into this sadly. Forget is one of my favourite albums of the decade so far but this isn't really what I wanted from him.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
I still have a favorable opinion of "To the Top," but the rest of this is a big NOPE.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
to the top is great
sometimes this hits me just right and sometimes it sounds like onerepublic
― max, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
its very grandiose but i like it
― gr8080, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
couldn't handle this one
― flopson, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
"Eclipse" was pretty bad huh
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
So bad. Just one big empty and overproduced misfire.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 13 July 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Didn't even bother.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I don't think I even managed to listen to this in its entirety. Forget is one of my favourites from this decade as well. :(
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
forget has got to be his best. the other two don't have the same strangeness. when i first head forget it seemed like an album i dreamed up after falling asleep watching weird science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNpq942YT50
― Treeship, Monday, 27 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
His best album by a mile. I go back to it a lot.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
His new single features Haim and is thankfully so much better than anything on that last album.
https://youtu.be/NXpYoiCOuLE
― kitchen person, Friday, 2 March 2018 06:16 (six years ago) link
much much better than anything from that last album!
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 10:00 (six years ago) link
Listening to Forget again. It really is one of the most perfect records of the decade for me.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 17 March 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
"I Can't Wait" one of the least popular songs on Forget according to Spotify stats. I don't understand people at all.
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:36 (six months ago) link
Yeah that's odd considering its strengths and that the closing title track has a lot more. Although I often skip 'Tyrant Destroyed' this is still one of my favourite albums since 2010.
In the past there was an additional version of 'Forget' on Spotify with iirc a slightly different running order and the apostrophe in 'I Can't Wait' was also different - don't suppose that could've affected its tally at all?
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:52 (six months ago) link