tim buckley- classic or dud ?

All his other stuff is great.

HappySad, Blue Afternoon and Starsailor are the best albums ever. I've worn out copies of several of them.

sefronia/look at the fool a re middling. listenable.

lorca is the overlooked record. the title track (which is 2/3 of the first side) is fucking grrrrreat. (the rest is...listenable)

Downloaded Happy/Sad last night.

It is awes.

i got goodbye and hello recent and it's gorgeous. he's so much cooler than his douche son.

why? in what ways?

God rest his soul, but there was something irritating about Jeff that doesn't bother me with his father.. Tim was radical, Jeff was reactionary (obvs it's more complicated than that, but that statement is generally true, I think). That said, I think Grace is on par with any of Tim's albums.

Happy Sad, Lorca & Starsailor are all very nearly (but not quite) perfect in my opinion. Greetings from LA -- that shit is just crazy. "Sweet Surrender" is maybe my favorite song of all time. It's a serious piece of psychedelic soul. It almost scratches the same itch as Ike doing "Walk on By"..

One of my favorite Tim Buckley songs his cover of "Sally Go Round the Roses" but i haven't heard teh whole album -- maybe i would love it? I love the live version of "Dolphins" but haven't heard the studio version.

Agree re: "dying for a boxset" -- absolutely

better songs, better records, better voice

Better looking too

i should listen to greetings from LA again, that is such a bonkers record

Greetings from LA -- that shit is just crazy. "Sweet Surrender" is maybe my favorite song of all time.

^^ yes yes yes

I love the live version of "Dolphins" but haven't heard the studio version.

studio version is lovely

i've got greetings from LA and it's excellent stuff. i wish his records were easier to find.

jeff buckley is kind of maudlin for my taste.

i can go to any record store in this city and find his records. except starsailor. that fucker took me forever to find.

I'll rep "Dream Letter: Live in London"
sweet vibes, nuts patter

thank you sir. you are making my morning wonderful

sweet surrender is massive

Classic, obv.

Greetings from LA = classic

what do you think of the Thom Yorke version? (x-post)

So is Starsailor and the other Zappa-released stuff still out of print? (Glad I've held on to my Restless release of same.)

Out of print on CD? It's on itunes.

The strange thing about Tim Buckley is that he's classic in a way I wasn't expecting and took me a while to appreciate. Because of the legend, I was expecting a Nick Drake sensitivity, but he's multi-dimensional - and classic as both a singer and an experimental artist.

The Thom Yorke version is gorgeous, Bob Six. :-)

Has anyone picked up the new live album?

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13304-live-at-the-folklore-center-nyc-march-6th-1967/

Somehow I completely forgot this one was coming out. Have just put in my order. I'm a *huge* Tim Buckley fan, but his earliest period is my least favourite.

I think a Tim Buckley live album poll might soon be in order....

This review on Dusted piqued my interest:
http://dustedmagazine.com/reviews/5201
It would be nice to hear some of the early over-produced songs played solo.
I've wavered in and out of my Tim B. fandom. My favorite live thing remains the Troubadour set. Favorite studio album probably Blue Afternoon.

Blue Afternoon is very lovely indeed. I actually listened to the Troubadour album only 30 minutes ago! I'm (perhaps predictably) a Starsailor fan. Even bought the recent vinyl reissue despite owning the CD since the early 90s. Just had to have it on vinyl!

My entry to Tim Buckley was the Dream Letter live set, which I bought on the strength of rave reviews when it came out in 1990. So I have a real soft spot for that one.

listening to this on lala now. not really familiar with tim buckley's work, but i'm enjoying this a lot.

by "this" i mean 'live at the folklore center'

I heard 'Look at the Fool' the other day, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as it's made out to be, think it fits with some of the albums mentioned on the beardo beach hippie canon quite well

"who could deny you" is up there with his best imo

Silly I know, but the incredibly crap and cheapo cover of "Look At the Fool" has always put me off actually listening to it.

i really like the "look at the fool" cover. in fact, i find it pretty interesting in general that none of his (rather innocuous) album covers do anything to disclose the content or emotions of the songs themselves ("starsailor" is perhaps the best example of this).

Blue Afternoon is the jewel, as far as I'm concerned. And only bits and pieces of the rest are great (Happy Sadis pretty great too tho'). Classic, based on both the aforementioned. Not much of a fan of Starsailor, I'm afraid.

hm - who's that other Paul upthread (who prefers Jeff)?
Blue Afternoon's my firm fave too, with Starsailor close behind.

Are there more of those expanded Tim Buckley sets forthcoming? They did the 1st lp across 2cds with about 24 bonus tracks including a load by the folk-rock band he was in prior to the 1st lp and a load of acoustic demoes. When that came out I had hoped it might finally be the beginning of the comprehensive reissue campaign that the estate had announced in the early days of the millenium but I've heard nothing new about that since. I think both Blue Afternoon and at least the bulk of Starsailor have been reissued since then though, Blue Afternoon in one of those Original lps 5cd box and the contents of Starsailor on the last 2cd compi that came out a couple of years ago.
Still fingers crossed anyway.

There was an announcement a few years ago that there was a comprehensive reissue series happening. Ii said something along the lines of 'we know what's out there and are trying to include everything' sounded like it was going to mean every lp with relevant bonus material. THen the first thing to be released was the My Fleeting House dvd which was organised by somebody who edited out a great chunk of the 1970 Boboquivari live in the tv studio set and intentionally excluded other material that he could have included.
When the question was asked on a yahoo list devoted to Tim Buckley as to why certain footage was missing from Boboquivari, the compiler started trying to make out that it was absurd to think of a show that had been filmed as a continuous performance in 1970 had a context other than the one he was giving it and that the usual use of the word missing could not be used. This footage had also been in circulation in bootleg form for a number of years but in not great quality. From the previous announcement that reissues would be as comprehensive as possible this always seemed a bit strange. Also that somebody who had been working on the official dvd release of the artist's material would intentionally exclude footage that they had their hands on, particularly since there was only a limited amount of footage.
The anthologist came out with something about having a certain figure for time in his head which has always struck me as a strange direction of fit as to how to handle compiling material. If there is only so much material out there and you have the space to fit it why would you intentionally not do so?

Would love a full release of the Boboquivari set, preferably both in audio and dvd form and if possible in the same set. Shame that what I thought was supposed to be the official dvd release of the Tim Buckley video archive cut out such a chunk of it.

So I'm hoping that the rest of the Tim Buckley lps are coming out in 2cd form like that first one. I think that was 2 discs that were pretty full wasn't it or at least close to the hour mark on each one.

Also can anybody confirm the existence or non-existence of filmed footage from Knebworth in 1974. There were adverts for the film in the back of the US collector mags Goldmine and Discoveries for years in the early 90s and possibly before and after. I still haven't come across any footage of that set, love the audio boot of it Return of THe Starsailor so would love to get visuals with it. Would like to know what was being sold as Knebworth footage if it isn't the actual thing.

Lorca is perfect late-night listening.

Lorca is still perfect late-night listening.

this guy has, i'd say, half a dozen exceptional albums.

love his son's work unreservedly, but disliked Tim's shit when I heard it in the mid 90s. Don't wanna fuck with folkie crap, so should I go with Lorca, Starsailor, and Greetings? Anything else I shouldn't miss?

Oh fuck, started to listen to the lorca title track as I wrote…this shit is awesome…

My favourite song is "Buzzin' Fly" from Happy/Sad, but that belongs to the folkie part of his career you gave up on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7SUqKJb7tk

I adore Happy Sad, Blue Afternoon is great too, even though apparently it was just a throwaway he recorded to fulfill his contract (?).. its super meandering and pretty

The only other I've heard is Goodbye and Hello (? The one with him wearing a monocle) which is a rather strange but fun record iirc

The Original Album series box (or alternative title per label) is all good. Even if s/t has him sounding undeveloped. But still pretty good folkrock. There was a Rhino handmade that expanded that lp with an otherwise unavailable set by his folk rock band.
Dream Letter captures him live in 68 around the time of Happy Sad. The band couldn't bring their bassist with them so here in London you get Danny Thompson of Pentangle filling in and doing a great job. The set is extended semi improvised semi acoustic jazzfolk. Pretty essential 2 hours.
There's also The Copenhagen Tapes from the same tour with a different fill in bassist.
Box set is 1st 5 lps up to Blue Afternoon which is sublime. Not sure if Starsailor is available as a cd, may be around on vinyl. Or at least not on cd in correct lp order. I've seen I think all tracks spread across at least 1 compilation put out over last 10 - 15 years. But in wrong order surrounded by tracks from other eras. There was a cd late 80s which I have though.
Starsailor has him getting pretty avant, even more so than Lorca. There are several live sets in circulatiom with the Starsailor band where he gets very out. Worth tracking down if you get a chance.
There is also Live At The Troubadour capturing him live in 69 stretching out with an electric band great but not as out as he got over next couple of years.
There's a 2 year gap in studio releases before you get Greetings From L.A. which is more about soul & funk so far less avant. Not sure if this is available at the moment but is pretty essential. There is a live set from 73 called Honeyman that's pretty good and a bit more stretched out. But I far prefer the Knebworth set from 74 which is wild. Would still like to know if there is a video for this since it was advertised for years.
The last 2 studio lps aren't seen as being as good as the earlier stuff and may be better live. Sefronia and Look at The Fooj.

I adore Happy Sad, Blue Afternoon is great too, even though apparently it was just a throwaway he recorded to fulfill his contract (?).. its super meandering and pretty

Blue Afternoon is my favourite.

Starsailor is available as an iTunes download iirc? But yeah not physically.

Starsailor + Lorca + live at the troubadour + dream letter imo.

& whatever other live sets you can get from 68-69.
+ Blue Afternoon and Happy Sad.

vinyl of Starsailor is available

I can definitely recommend the double disc live release, Venice Mating Call. Some great renditions of Lorca era songs

Does anyone have any info on the quality of remastering on this set? I own all the albums apart from the Rhino Works In Progress (which would also make it worth getting) so I'd be tempted to pick it up if it sounds better than the 90s CDs

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/tim-buckley-complete-album-collection-8cd-box-set/

Some discussion on pages 3 and 4 of this thread.

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/tim-buckley-complete-album-collection-8cd-box-set.695859/page-4

Thanks, Dan

I mean Duke! Thanks, Duke.

Ha!

Lovely upbeat version of Anonymous Proposition:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6uM5l2q6lrf75Mnr0otnjx?si=q2Zel76rQU2Ab1aWLHWmwA

I keep forgetting that 6 songs from the "Works In Progress" compilation are also on "The Dream Belongs To Me" compilation, which I own. The perils of posthumous discographies....

Owsley Stanley-recorded sets from '68 released earlier this month:

https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/bears-sonic-journals/merry-go-round-at-the-carousel-tim-buckley-at-the-carousel-ballroom/

Thanks for this. Was unaware.

Set is up on Spotify but I've only heard one track. Is it all acoustic?
Lee Underwood appears to be elsewhere that night.

Indeed.

With Tim Buckley on vocals and 12-string guitar, John Miller on bass, David Friedman on vibraphone, and Carter C.C. Collins on percussion.