okay, i'm starting this thread because i find myself liking sun araw and their stallones more than almost anything going on in drugs music these days, up there with blues control, black dice, oneida, etc. in the present moment, i'm listening to the beach head LP, and it is sweeping me away on waves of pure fresh grain. has triangles and everything, but is not of this moment more than any other. everybody is all on the heavy deeds LP, which sounds like magic lantern, kinda, all rocked out and "heavy psych", but i like the more drifty/dreamy shit like this guy and on patrol the best. burn one. can anyone tell me why this is not the best shit ever to have on atm, or whatever else i should be looking for if i happen to be feeling it.
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno - like the last week for me has been all about Heavy Deeds and Robert Ashley
― the business class edition of the ronaldinho bottle opener thread (sarahel), Saturday, 20 November 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
so, i guess in some way - another type of "drifty/dreamy shit" - Robert Ashley's "Private Parts"
― the business class edition of the ronaldinho bottle opener thread (sarahel), Saturday, 20 November 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
deeds!
Robert Ashley (born March 28, 1930), is a contemporary American composer, best known for his operas and other theatrical works, many of which incorporate electronics and extended techniques. Along with Gordon Mumma, Ashley was also a major pioneer of audio synthesis.
will investigate, because that sounds amazing
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link
private parts is hopefully based on the awesome paul bartel movie from 1972
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Robert Ashley has done some great stuff (some now out of print) and you should definitely investigate.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
There's a bunch of Robert Ashley talk on one of the Tortoise threads.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link
what's the connection?
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link
there's also a whole thread devoted to quoting Private Parts lyrics
― the business class edition of the ronaldinho bottle opener thread (sarahel), Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I forget what the connection is, but it might have been them covering one of his "songs."
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link
have also this week been obsessed by john adams' "grand pianola music", especially part the last, "on the dominant divide." no clear relation to stallones, tho.
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I need to find a copy of that split with Predator Vision.
― van smack, Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
me too! i ain't even got boat trip yet...
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I was lucky enough to find that in the clearance isle at sonic boom earlier this year.
― van smack, Saturday, 20 November 2010 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link
It's already Nov 20? I've been listening to Born in the USA a lot. Cameron Stallone Stallones? is a funny guy, all "heavy deeds" and it's "the cherry, the diddley, the wonder."
― bamcquern, Saturday, 20 November 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8jDcZhlT2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ltDyujqtm4
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 20 November 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
High Wolf are kind of similar in the tropical/psychedelic sounds. I like what few releases I've heard from them. the Gabon cs is particularly great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc0pdRLwFOc
http://www.myspace.com/highwolfmusic/music/songs/Astro-Black,-Speak-To-Me!-56200295
― van smack, Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, if you go to this label site and go to the bottom, you can download the Gabon cs for free.http://kaugummi.fr/wingedsunrecords/
― van smack, Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"high wolf" for pity's sake [picardfacepalm.jpg], but loving "diego", so thanks, van smack! nice that they make their stuff so easily available for free, too. downloading the gabon cs and incapulco cdr...
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i wanna know who wrote this press blurb:
Sun Araws 2008 LP Beach Head has been remastered and reissued on Sun Araws own label Sun Ark Records. The new version of Beach Head is available on vinyl now.
For the uninitiated, Sun Araw is Los Angeles-based guitarist Cameron Stallones. Sun Araw originally issued a limited pressing of Beach Head in 2008 -- a release of sunburnt affection for a place that has since submerged: a coastal constellation of friends and energies that still slosh and burn through dimensions just above our perceptual apparatus. These are the coordinates, should you want to go: Thoughts Are Bells opens in séance before easing back into full Florian blossom. Horse Steppin is a love song to Neil Youngs six-string gateway: sunblushed and indulgent, persistently burning. Beams builds a bridge between Marconi Notaro and Long Beach, and throws an underwater groove party in the midst. Bridal Fully pushes the sun under the horizon with a mountain of vocals; unfailing love glowing at its center: a marriage song. As the inaugural release on Sun Ark Records, Beach Head has been re-mastered at the legendary Dubplates & Mastering in Germany, and has been imprinted onto 180 gram vinyl, these tunes have never sounded this good. The LP comes correct with the original artwork, including an 11 x 11 full color insert.
More on Sun Araw:
Listening to Sun Araw is like taking a magic carpet ride through a humid swamp land, surfing over the Pacific and then safely landing on some sand dunes in the middle of the desert. The Fader
If you shut your lids and listen hard enough, you can hear the faint hints of his idols: the cosmic slop of Funkadelic, the ferocious locomotion of Fela Kuti, the stoned shape-shifting of Sun Ra, obscure Swedish psych-rock and the sorcerer minimalism of Terry Riley. Los Angeles Times
Sun Araw sound a bit like a lava lamp. Or like minute 45 of "Dark Star". Or maybe Fela Kuti slowed down to a crawl, rolled out, and spread into infinity. Pitchfork
― scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
plus, how exciting is it that a band that has been around for, like, three days re-releases an album that came out two days ago?
― scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
plus, the whole beach thing. where will it end? is beaches & canyons to blame?
― scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
up there with blues control, black dice, oneida, etc.
ehhhhhh not quite. but I do like this stuff
everybody is all on the heavy deeds LP, which sounds like magic lantern, kinda, all rocked out and "heavy psych", but i like the more drifty/dreamy shit like this guy and on patrol the best.
yeah agreed. Off Duty, On Patrol, Boat Trip are off in their own world, Heavy Deeds I feel like I've heard it before but done better (e.g. Sunburned Hand of the Man at their best)
― dmr, Saturday, 11 December 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link
probably on made 10 copies to begin with. the 11th guy who wanted one is pretty psyched rt abt now
― dmr, Saturday, 11 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
that was a ridiculousness of limited pressings zing, not a Sun Araw has a tiny audience zing
― dmr, Saturday, 11 December 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Cameron put a cover of Neil Young's "Thrasher" on his website for download.http://www.sunaraw.com/main.html
― van smack, Saturday, 15 January 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Ran into him at the Jandek show on Saturday! Not too surprising.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 January 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Just a note to contenderizer.. High Wolf is playing at Cairo tomorrow night. I'm going to try to make it (that is, if my wife will let me go)http://cairocollection.blogspot.com/2011/01/high-wolfhair-and-space-museummegabats.html
― van smack, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
pdx on sunday too
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Looks like two shows in portland. I'd like to see the one with Planton Wat
― van smack, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
sunday one is at the house here with p dope local noise kids Eye Myths, suggest drive
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
berkeley on the 19th
― sarahel, Friday, 4 February 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link
The new Houston Abstros 7" is really good. The b side is a cool Teenage Fanclub cover.
― last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Saturday, 16 April 2011 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
YESSSSS
ANCIENT ROMANS is the fifth full-length album from SUN ARAWPrimal Splendour, who sends out innumerable rays, not perceptible by the senses, but collectively thinkableHeartfelt and marbled, this album is documentation of the slow exit (the triumphal entry): moving the camera back 8 stages along the circumference of the circle to the point where the obverse is reverse, in order to celebrate the building of an edifice and then walk away from it in wisdom, gaining freedom from it. ANCIENT ROMANS will be available as a 2xLP on white vinyl in a gatefold jacket with an accompanying art book, as well as on CD.available on SUN ARK RECORDS through Drag City, August 23rd
Primal Splendour, who sends out innumerable rays, not perceptible by the senses, but collectively thinkable
Heartfelt and marbled, this album is documentation of the slow exit (the triumphal entry): moving the camera back 8 stages along the circumference of the circle to the point where the obverse is reverse, in order to celebrate the building of an edifice and then walk away from it in wisdom, gaining freedom from it.
ANCIENT ROMANS will be available as a 2xLP on white vinyl in a gatefold jacket with an accompanying art book, as well as on CD.
available on SUN ARK RECORDS through Drag City, August 23rd
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
fuck yah! didn't know this was coming.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
Cool! Be interesting to see whether he has added anything new to the mix.
― Fear Moldova and the Nation of Leaners (seandalai), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
This is great news. Really looking forward for this.
― van smack, Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
I've been expecting a new full length release about every four months from this guy. I'd be surprised if he slowed down.
― bamcquern, Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
full stream of Ancient Romans on soundcloud
http://alteredzones.com/posts/1789/zoned-sun-araw-ancient-romans/
― dmr, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
missed his comic con show because i was in MN :-(
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
thx for link tho
he's playing at PS1 Warm Up in Queens on the 27th but I don't think I can go
album is sounding good though, I'm feeling this sax on "Fit for Caesar"
― dmr, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, v. good album, review's up on the AMG I believe.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
weird, now it looks like they have cut it down to just 2 tracks. well I got one listen in, except for the final 15-minute one.
― dmr, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Ancient Romans is great!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
From where I get ALL of my music news, Altered Zones:
Cameron: Well, the big one at the moment is this record I just made with The Congos. My friend Ged [M. Geddes Gengras] and I went down to Jamaica and made an album. We recorded all the music and The Congos wrote and sang the lyrics. It was really an incredible experience. We did a lot of recording down there, and we're working on bringing out 12" singles of a lot of damaged dancehall tracks we tracked with local toasters. Right now that's a pretty full collaborative plate. I'm very interested in collaboration when the situation is right and the proper energy is there.
― International Waters, Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone else heard the "Night Gallery" collab with Eternal Tapestry yet? Pretty nice, but if it was an old jazz record it would be classified as a mere blowing date. The music tilts more to the E Tap side of things, for those wondering.
Ancient Romans is taking awhile to settle in with me. 80 minutes? Some of us have to work for a living, chief.
― International Waters, Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
ancient romans is what soul junk never quite achieved: sun ra for wasters
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Holy SHit @ this track with the Congos:
http://soundcloud.com/igetrvng/frkwys09-happy-song
― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:21 (twelve years ago) link
dope
― dmr, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
^
― Chris S, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
I love this Duppy Gun stuff he's done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFPkJCUMQQE
― She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'm excited to hear the rest of that Congos collaboration. Who's the other dude who he did it with?
― She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
Mark Geddes Gengras is also the other guy in Duppy Gun Productions, apart from that I don't know much about him.
Interview with Cameron Stallones in this month's Wire btw.
― Doch! (seandalai), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I read that. It was all a little high falutin' for my dumb ass. I like the jams, though.
― Walter Galt, Monday, 19 March 2012 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
I just learned it's "highfalutin," not "high falutin'," so that fancy magazine learned me something after all.
― Walter Galt, Monday, 19 March 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link
let's all get high and do some falutin'
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Monday, 19 March 2012 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2012/03/13/happy-songs-cameron-stallones-m-geddes-gengras-and-the-congos/?single_paged=1
DJ /rupture's hifalutin' piece for Fader.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
stopped reading that sentence at DJ Rupture can you sum it up for me
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
That story is worth clicking on just to see the pictures of Stallones looking totally blazed imo.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's not that highfalutin'. good article.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
lol, otm
― original bgm, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
xp I was joking. :)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Oh shit! Sun Araw + the Congos are gigging together:http://thequietus.com/articles/08297-congos-sun-araw-live-london
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:41 (twelve years ago) link
Woah! I should def go to this.
― Doch! (seandalai), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
It does have potential to be the worst mess ever tbh.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
True
― Doch! (seandalai), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://fordtheatres.org/en/events/details/id/352
Sun Araw works with a friend of mine
― Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
was just listening to this dude playing music on the dublab stream, dude's set started off pretty amazingly
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
We like him
― Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
the show I saw abt a month ago where he just played with his one friend or w/e was better than any of the ones I've seen w/ his band imo
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
i'm kinda disappointed by this congos thing, it's got that "half baked" vibe of all those really bad post-90s random lee perry collaborations
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
totally, I kind of skipped thru it once, nothing really held me
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
packaging is really dope
maybe it's just suffering cause i also grabbed the two sevens clash remaster at the same time which is like thee roots and culture album of all time
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
Man, this show tonight with Sun Araw and the Congos at Village Underground in Shoreditch was a blast. Such a great, fun vibe - everyone in the place was totally grinning the whole time. They played a bunch of the record (which worked really well live) and then a nice smattering of vintage Congos tunes, which were amazing. So fun.
― She Got the Shakes, Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit I completely forgot about that gig :(
― recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
They played a bunch of the record (which worked really well live) and then a nice smattering of vintage Congos tunes
i would cry so hard at a show like this
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 June 2012 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
Great to hear that they pulled it off!
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2012 08:02 (eleven years ago) link
Should I buy Ancient Romans? I like Heavy Deeds a lot. I like On Patrol, too, although not as much.
― bamcquern, Saturday, 23 June 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
man Beach Head is such a rad album
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 14 October 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
"The Inner Treaty" is my fave by this fellow so far--was already catching a heavy Lovely Music vibe off this before looking at this thread and seeing Robert Ashley get thrown down right off the bat...
― Yellow Tonka//Sony Titanium - YT//ST (Craig D.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.jonhassell.com/atmosphere/hex.html
― Yellow Tonka//Sony Titanium - YT//ST (Craig D.), Sunday, 14 October 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
cant believe I didnt know he had another album coming out. The SA/Congos album is p good imo
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 14 October 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
"inner treaty" = epic jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjGMygjOY48
― the late great, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
listening to "on patrol," really digging this. i feel like i'm in space and a swamp at the same time.
― marcos, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that's still the favorite. love inner treaty too, esp after ancient romans, which fucked with my biorhythms.
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
fish is totally cracking up
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
haha
― marcos, Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
belomancie is as mystifying as it is enchanting, the first half i had no idea what was happening, the second half i still had no idea but it was suddenly the best stuff i've heard all year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abp_eCwtnTY
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 31 May 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
Anyone seen him live? I have a foreign visitor friend who wants to have some authentic brooklyn experiences and whatnot and I'm debating between taking him to see Sun Araw vs Part Time on Thursday.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
I should add that apparently he is stoned a lot.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Saw him and his band back The Congos at LPR a while back. They were quite good but honestly, I have no idea what this show will be like. I'm thinking though that it might be right up a stoner's alley.
― kwhitehead, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
Definitely take the stoner to that, and hope he plays lots off On Patrol.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 4 September 2014 10:02 (nine years ago) link
SUNSHINE
DAYTIME
IT'S MORE THAN LIGHT
― marcos, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
i found the frkwys icon give thank collaboration w/ the congos a little hard to get into at first but its rewards have been increasing lately for me
― marcos, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Stallones, PLURAL
― J. Sam, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
what are folks' thoughts on the most recent one, belomancie? first listen it seemed a little less organic than the previous ones but i haven't spent a whole lot of time with it
― marcos, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
I've never been into any sun araw recorded shit for some reason. I do like gengras' and alex grey's recordings though
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I bought it (one of the relatively few CDs I bought in 2014) but have still never listened to it. So yeah, dunno.
― Vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
ancient romans is fucking incredible
― marcos, Monday, 2 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
love this dude so much
Been jamming "Happy Song" hard since last Tuesday. A good tonic for these times.
https://soundcloud.com/igetrvng/frkwys09-happy-song
― Position Position, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link
Heavy Deeds, On Duty/Boat Trip and On Patrol seem now like early foundations of Sun Araw’s sound, and Icon Give Thank a grounded collaboration with The Congos.
Traveling further on his own, Ancient Romans, Belomancie, and Rock Sutra were very trippy and deconstructed, and listening back on them they all sound fantastic to me
― Dan S, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link
those first three you mentioned + “ancient romans” are the ones i keep coming back to. wish they’d reissue “on patrol”, vinyl goes for silly money now
― the late great, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link