Best Song on Diddy - Dirty Money's "Last Train to Paris"

Hopefully by then, I'll be ready to answer this.

tell ya I ain't gonna decide right away, but for me it's between "Yeah Yeah You Would" for that chorus and bridge, "Looking for Love" for its sterility, and that awesome coda where Usher lets loose, or "Ass on the Floor" for the synth washes, the melody, and the percussiveness.

can't decide yet.

"Someone to Love Me" is just the dopest, but I'm a true school herb

Too soon, but "Yesterday" clicked tonight.

Chris Brown and I are going to hell.

too soon :(

strobe lights may not be the most fun to listen to but I admire its frigid 5 AM comedown

still don't know, but i'm rly happy to see all the love this is getting. my fav album of 2010.

ok i've decided it's "ass on the floor"

i think every song (inc. "change") is amazing but sometimes that one rly hits me emotionally and the ending is next-level

jesus, way way way too soon

right now i'd go with "yeah yeah you would" for the sweeping drama

i think the point of these threads, or at least how i've found them useful, is to catalyze discussion after the original album thread has died down. idk what the point iz of having two going on the same thing when the first is still going strong

lol is*, v early

or do it like whiney, make the end date like 6 months away

*shrug*

but for me it's between "Yeah Yeah You Would" for that chorus and bridge, "Looking for Love" for its sterility, and that awesome coda where Usher lets loose, or "Ass on the Floor" for the synth washes, the melody, and the percussiveness.

pretty much

"Ass On the Floor" has been the best overall song for me. Kalenna has a great atonal, Grace Jones like lead that just personifies the whole pissed off mood of the song. I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.

Also for some odd reason, when Kalenna and Dawn sing in harmony on the refrain:

Baby I want you to need me
I need you to want me, I want you to love me forever

with the synths flowing is aural heaven in my earbuds/headphones.

And Diddy was decent only for the smoking weed listening to Sade part.

or do it like whiney, make the end date like 6 months away bernie

― dayo, Wednesday, January 5, 2011 6:23 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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I love the "smoke weed, listen to sade" line cause it's totally on some ~~diddy teaches you how to live~~

the synth swell as diddy's verse ends is some epic shit

i shoulda done a No Way Out poll first as a sorbet

I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.

That snare is from Pon De Floor by Major Lazer, and just made me want to listen to Pon De Floor frankly. The rest of the song just kind of sits damply on top of that snare, no song called Ass On The Floor should be this limp.

matt, i got your text yesterday about this album sounding limp just as i was falling asleep, and frankly i thought i was imagining it. this album limp?!?!

I've posted in a bit more detail on the other thread. It is limp though.

Keeping it positive on this thread, it's either I Hate That You Love Me or Strobe Lights for me.

"Pon de Floor" sucks and "Ass on the Floor" is great tho.

Actually they're both great.

If you hate "Pon De Floor" your taste is music is so far removed from mine that if we were ever in the same room it would explode.

The beat is great but the synths really fucking annoy me.

maybe you need to have gooned over toytown hardcore from the rave scene circa 93-95 before it clicks

if Swizz Beatz actually sampled a drum sound originated by Diplo (if that's possible!) then barf

that can't be true

I dunno that it's an actual sample, but it definitely uses the same (distinctive) cadence.

They might just use the same source sample, but in the UK Pon De Floor has impacted way, way wider than pretty much everything else Diplo has done. It may be Diplo but it's not just a hipster touchstone, and Diddy knows his club music and I'd be very surprised if he hadn't heard Pon De Floor.

poor Switch, it's like he doesn't even exist

Switch is the more talented one!

major lazer = diplo and switch, right? switch's presence prob more key than diplo's to its quality

haha xps!!!

yeah but all of the talk about "Pon De Floor" has automatically reverted to talk about Diplo when both of them were involved in the Major Lazer stuff (altho if there's a breakdown somewhere about who specifically produced what and Diplo was the one responsible for "Pon De Floor", fair enough; I assumed Switch had a hand in it do to rhythmic pulse similarities to the bassline in "Bamboo Banger")

xp: lol it's that part of the thread where everyone posts the same idea at the same time

it was THE anthem of the recent student protests in london, fwiw. teenagers dutty wining in parliament square to "pon de floor" and gyptian/nicki minaj = such a moment.

also dan you've heard the princess nyah remix of "pon de floor" right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4EFFDCbNw

Yeah Pon De Floor seems to now occupy that Witness: One Hope slot of songs that were never really hits but now everyone seems to love.

yeah Lex, I caught that on another thread

so so hot

All the important bits of "Pon De Floor" are by Afrojack actually. Major Lazer just dressed it up a bit (e.g. adding Vybz).

That's one reason why it feels like such an important record, it short-circuits mainstream clubbing and frankendance so efficiently.

Linn LM-1 drums! Is this song featured on the deluxe edition? If ever there was an album that needs a mixtape of unreleased tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnoYWsZkISA

On that note:

http://www.badboyblog.com/item/2010/12/13/diddy-hints-at-uncut-freeze-your-face-version-of-dirty-money-s-last-train-to-paris-more-tracks

"We got this version of the album that's called 'uncut,' he said. "This thing is like the freeze your face of the album. We had to put some cut on it, to be honest, just in this day and age. But, we feel it was the right type of balance. We did 60 tracks..."

would pay for that just on principle

i love the 81-minute deluxe version so much that i'm kind of salivating at the idea of some kind of insane souped up 3-hour version

really want that to actually emerge

It probably won't but I'm anticipating a bunch of leaks.

jesus, way way way too soon

^^

haven't had a chance to hear this yet ;_;

i love the 81-minute deluxe version so much that i'm kind of salivating at the idea of some kind of insane souped up 3-hour version

― some dude, Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:36 AM (Yesterday)

^^^^^

this rick ross/k michelle song has a very dirty money-ish chorus https://soundcloud.com/rickyrozaymmg/rozay-feat-k-michelle-if-they-knew

it's not particularly great or anything but the similarities are pretty strong i think

bow down before Brad: https://medium.com/@unbornwhiskey/last-train-3e0b25859387

http://i.imgur.com/5gA7Zec.png

im dead

:D

yoooo

wow nice

have listened to "Sade" six times in last five minutes.

Brad did you come across any on the history of first place loser in yr research

brad is now cool person #1 at ilx

"now"

do not ever forget ned raggett

awesome brad :)

i was kind of wrong about "shades"

probably still my album of the decade

smoke weed, listen to sade

correct

listening to this so it's officially winter now

brad, is there anywhere i can still read that piece upthread?

it’s a little annoying how great chris brown is on this record

SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE

been away from this album probably 8-9 years, but I still like it just as much today

i don't get why they reversed the track order on the deluxe, "Yeah Yeah You Would" makes much more sense as the opener, so I reset it that way on my player. "Ass on the Floor" is perfectly placed as the third.

still in my top 5 of the decade, for me rn the easy pick for #1 is “hate that you love me” crazy it placed so low

there are actually three different tracklists of this (original, cd deluxe, digital deluxe) and i have no idea why, maybe we should poll them lol

this is the greatest album of all time

i rly hope diddy does an album like this soon w/ ppl like ty dolla, swae lee etc

I can’t believe it’s been 10 years.... The album that broke my heart #LastTrainToParis 💔

— Diddy (@Diddy) December 14, 2020

this could have been the sound of the 10s instead we got “hyperpop”

Imagine if this would have been the launchpad for most of pop in the last decade.... sigh.

I owe ILM big time for pushing me toward this album.

Why did it break his heart?

I was wondering the same thing, actually. My assumption was that it was because Dirty Money split up before they got to do more?

Because he spent three years on it and it's his lowest-selling album (~300,000 copies)?

he also might just be alluding to the general theme of the album....

its crazy how many people i see talking about it today...if you look at the pazz n jop voters for it its literally the ilm all stars

I was assuming he meant like unperson said he thought it was his best work and it didn't do well

My general opinion of Sean Combs was such that I was legit shocked + floored when I finally heard this album. Still sounds so great.

the one before it suggests its heading in this direction tbh. i actually expected at the time "press play" to sound more like what ended up being "LTTP" just because he was already listening to all the music that influenced LTTP but he hadn't quite adapted it to his A&R skillset yet i guess ... still "Press Play" has some crazy shit on it. The Keyshia Cole song in particular

"Press Play" also has Mario Winans-guested "Through the Pain" which kinda felt like it coulda fit on LTTP.

love that jam.

i rly hope diddy does an album like this soon w/ ppl like ty dolla, swae lee etc

― J0rdan S., Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (one year ago)

still feel like this would really hit...

Press Play was one of my fave albums of the late 00s. Never quite warmed to LTTP for some reason.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/diddy-dirty-money-last-train-to-paris/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkL8PSk-08

new diddy… bryson tiller wouldn’t have been my choice for vocalist but i pretty much love this

this bangs

yes

Love this!

Gonna need a whole album

he signed a one album deal w/ motown so hopefully we’ll get one this year

lol I know I am a Pop Idiot but how is this album this good and how am I only discovering it now

widescreen ambitious brilliance from start to finish