this seems like the new thing
how vile is this stuff so far
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
fratrap.tumblr.com
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
what hath asher roth wrought
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
what the
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
aesthetic: 90s ny rap filtered through 00s college student party rap sensibilities
predominantly white performers for predominantly white audiences
first time this has happened that wasnt indie rap with an aesop rock style fanbase
these guys are more popular than odd future
they see Nas as the most recent musical prophet in a line stretching from Jimi Hendrix - > Bob Marley
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
mac miller, sam adams seem to be the big names
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3BbGzcaAwg
Students Cut New Rap RecordB.M.O.C. Makes 'Guaranteed to Rock' SingleBy Jesus I. Ramirez,Published: Friday, February 05, 1988
"H-A-R-V-A-R-D! I go to Harvard University!"
"Harvard, Goddamn! How do you get through?"
"Pulling freaks, getting A's, and drinking Heineken brews!"
This rap comes out of your speakers, billed as the single "Guaranteed To Rock." You examine the record jacket for the tenth time. Yes, the performers pictured are two white, Jewish boys in Harvard attire.
No, the Beastie Boys haven't enrolled at Harvard, as was recently rumored in the National Enquirer. The rappers on the 12-inch single's cover are Jonathan M. "Sultan M.C." Shecter '90 and Bennington College sophomore Kevin "Kevi-Kev" Krakower.
Shecter's group, B.M.O.C. (Big Man On Campus), cut the single in New York last summer with producer Nile Rodgers, who has also worked on albums for Madonna, David Bowie, and DuranDuran. "Guaranteed To Rock" shares a disk with"Play That Funk," also recorded last summer. Thetwo songs are the first that the reknowned popproducer has worked on with B.M.O.C.
The group's third member is D.J. Kid Swift, ahighly ranked professional disk jockey. "The d.j.of a rap album," Shecter explained, "is the guywho manipulates the record on the turntable toproduce a scratching sound."
Brett Ratner, a sophomore at New YorkUniversity, is the group's manager and executiveproducer. "I heard a demo of the group, I thoughtthey were great and I thought the Harvard imagewas great," he said. "So I got $10,000, finishedthe record, and got a five-record deal with Sire."Sire Records, the label under which the single wasreleased, is a part of Warner Brothers.
"I'm not at liberty to discuss the details ofour contract," said a chuckling Shecter, "butwe're going to make more money than most peoplewould wish to make in seven thousand lifetimes."Shecter described the contract with Sire asunusual: "we're a new group and Sire is a bigrecord company."
Ratner also said he had convinced Rodgers toproduce the record and Diadora, a manufacturer ofathletic clothing to sponsor the group. "We planto include Diadora in our next song," Shectersaid, noting that the rap group Run DMC endorsesAdidas products in some of its songs.
"They will probably be as big or even biggerthan The Beastie Boys because they have totalcrossover appeal," Ratner said of the group.Thanks to its pop producer, said Ratner, "thesingle is very danceable, so it appeals to non-rappeople."
"I hope it expands the musical taste of Harvardstudents who don't even know what rap is, becauseit's what's happening," Shecter said of hissingle.
"I'm a Harvard undergrad, a scholarly scholar,and I'm using rap music to make me dollars, "Shecter says in "Play That Funk." But off therecord, he insists that he's not in rap for themoney, but because he loves the music.
"I've been interested in the music since rapcame out, when I was around eleven years old,"Shecter said in his Cabot House room, which isdecorated with posters of rap groups Erik B. &Rakim.
Shecter, who did his first rapping on a radiostation in Philadelphia, works at WHRB, Harvard'sradio station. He runs a show called "Street Beat"with his roommate Go-go Dave (alias David M. Mays'90) on Fridays from 10 p.m. to midnight. Shecteris also acting in the play Gang's NewThreads, a rap musical to be staged inLeverett House February 18, 19, and 20.
As for B.M.O.C.'s immediate future, Shectersaid the group had "plans in the works" for avideo.
Ratner said the group's songs may also formpart of the soundtracks for two upcoming movies:"Colors," starring Sean Penn, and Eddie Murphy's"Quest."
The single was not available in the Square bypress time yesterday
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
wiz khalifa seems to have created this lane for these dudes & i would imagine there's something like a 99.9% overlap in the sam adams / wiz khalifa fanbase (that dosent work in the other direction)
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
this isnt harvard rap chris its more like big ten rap
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
big ten rap like a basketball player
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i am going to advise shakey mo not to bother with this thread because the music is by and large mediocre & because there will likely be a lot of theorizing about demographics based on anecdotal evidence just fyi
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Born as Samuel Adams Wisner, Adams attended Hobart and William Smith Colleges for two years where he played for the Statesmen soccer team. He studied political science at Trinity College, Hartford
how much you want to bet he's a libertarian
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
waiting patiently for lolz
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean look man, this shit has existed since rap began. Every school had the funny dude that rapped. Its just that no one gave it any attention until Asher tried to pull the great rap n race swindle. The only reason that rappers cosigned his wack and terrible ass is because the industry was going into the shitter and everyone wanted to be align thenselves with the safe bet as to where the money was gonna be.
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah he also had a minor hit but
these guys are riding the 'i smoke weed & listen to rap & im a chill dude' wiz khalifa philosophy to white rapper $$$$
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i think whats new here is that they're picking up an audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9zqpAFYUU
based on the number of hair flips i suspect this girl wants to smash
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmEpkztK5Lw
see to me this def feels like a big step further on the whitewashing scale than vanilla ice or eminem ever did
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
fart rap
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
well i've finally heard mac miller, uggghhhhhhhhhh
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the name 'mac miller' makes me think hes gonna come out wearing a no limit tank chain
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
if mac & master p had a baby, hed be a white boy named 'mac miller'
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
where is ethan's thread about rappers having names that make you think they're going to sound totally different than they do
http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/093/953/original/SCUMBAG%20STEVE.jpg
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the name 'mac miller' makes me think hes gonna come out wearing a no limit tank chain― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
deej is REALLY into fratrap.tumblr.com
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
okay this is my first time listening to dude too
sounds like disney channel rap or something
are we sure this isn't just aaron carter using an alias
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
(re: mac miller)
this feels like the ilm equivalent of a new york times trendpiece
― iatee, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
the interesting thing about that video is that even tho it's a white dude rapping they still managed to shoehorn in a scene where a nerdy white dude gets in a circle and does bad dancing and everyone is like "lol white people"
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, i didn't watch that long
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:20 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark
this part is prob true
i don't see any evidence that these guys are popular at all, let alone moreso than OF
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
that mac miller knock knock 'kool aid' video has nearly 5 million youtube views
just fyi
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
frats like andre nikatina
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought
we're old
i know ppl listen to mac miller cuz i've heard his name prior to this outside of ilm
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
qed motherfuckers
ime frats used to like popular rap. ludacris. 'big pimpin.' but frat dudes dont care about, like, black eyed peas and flo rida now
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
mac miller's 'donald trump' video came out one week ago and has more than 1 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
is mac miller signed?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TFS8r_SMI
and the song sucks too!
sam adams 'i hate college remix' has 5 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
this guy is really way worse than asher roth
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
for scale, the 'yonkers' video was tweeted by kanye west and still doesnt have 3 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
and sam adams afaik hasnt been on national television either
tbph i find his flow on "donald trump" generic enough to be inoffensive, and the beat's not bad; i could see something like this, but with an actual hook of some sort, being a hit
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
(nb I said flow not lyrics — if i tried to pay attention to the latter i would get rolling-induced eyestrain before he stops to take a breath)
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
mike posner has hits, i wouldn't be surprised if this other stuff became popular
i don't find it very interesting tho bcuz it pretty much exists in its own universe
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
take over the world, watch ilm get mad
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
oh boy i guess i have to know who this guy is huh
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
so credible folks seem to be legitimately liking that mac miller record. it was inevitably going to happen within the next year or so, but still
what the fuck is going on here
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 9 June 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/dantonistruggle.gif
― Poster The Sheeple (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 9 June 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/ag5TV0s2GG/
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 June 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
i don't know who that guy is but he has ronald mcdonald eyebrows
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 13 June 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
It's like a more accessible odd future album. With worse rapping
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 14 June 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link
oof worse rapping than odd future
― some dude, Friday, 14 June 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaEv78RqoDw
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
Post-Macklemore flow
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 5 October 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link
feel like this cldve gone a lil deeper http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/arts/music/white-rappers-geazy-mike-stud.html
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 August 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
remember when we discovered the two dubsteps itt, revelatory
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 August 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
the last couple of times i've reacted with a visceral "what the fuck is this GARBAGE" to music on the radio were both to songs that ended up featuring g-eazy
(the grace one and the marc e. bassy one)
― dyl, Friday, 19 August 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
man i have missed all of this bullshit entirely.
i dunno whether to commend you for your foresight or hate you, d.
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 15 July 2011 01:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
Story of my career
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 19 August 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
This stuff is extraordinarily easy to ignore, though. I get that these acts are taking a short cut to success, in a sense, but none seem to have cultural reach of black acts who do similar numbers. That's one thing their privilege can't buy them: relevance
― Evan R, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link
(the article was spot on though; best exploration of the subject I've seen)
you're doing important ethnographic work here.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
pun probably intended fuck it.
great piece
can't stop lol'ing at this photo tho
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/21/arts/21GEAZYJP3/21GEAZYJP3-master675.jpg
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
it's like something from the onion graphics department or one of those horrifying face swap apps
― Evan R, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
they lost me at "handsome ectomorph".
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 19 August 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
but for me this whole style reminds me as nothing so much as the various christian analogues of popular culture. the veggietales approach to hip-hop.
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 19 August 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
i need to catch up on Mac Miller real quick like.
started out frat rap, somehow worked his way into (quasi-?)credibility, critics about-faced on him at some point, now is putting out his "soul" album...does that sound about right? or no?
has he legit gone from joke/horror to decent?
― alpine static, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link
He was never as terrible as people made him out to be. He did the whole "little brother discovers your Native Tongues CDs" thing well on Blue Slide Park
― Evan R, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
He sucks and he's always sucked and the marketing for him is "actually he's good this time" every time around
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
i don't know if i can listen to a mac miller album title "the divine feminine"
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link
i can technically i guess but i never will
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link
this one sounds like the death rattle of tasteful milquetoast kaytranadawave r&b
'watching movies w/ the sound off' is pretty neo soul influenced too but is good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 September 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link
it's funny that writers are buying the "it's a feminist album!" angle hook line and sinker when he put fuckin cee lo on it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 September 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link
jeez
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
the marketing for him is "actually he's good this time" every time around
lol this is very true. But I found his old puppy dog on the playground stuff kind of likeable; it's his newer attempts to be an adult artist that are insufferable. He gets worse each year imo
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
lol this dude let himself be shamed into becoming an artiste when he went platinum on the frat rap circuit
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link
chose a life of small stinky rooms full of earl sweatshirt fans over boning sorority girls in bathtubs full of money
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
tbf i'm not sure he could have sustained that audience
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 29 September 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link
also, boning ariana has to count for something, i guess.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 29 September 2016 06:33 (seven years ago) link
is she the one who said she hates america then licked a donut if so then yes, our most important celebrity
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 September 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
don't forget the (alleged) time she smiled winningly at her fans as they mobbed an elevator then when the doors closed wished out loud for their death. that was the one that converted me.
― florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
an inspiration truly
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
i'd bone
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
wld bone, follow into battle, ascend to the next level of consciousness etc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
idk i think i like this album, although yes the idea that this is some feminist awakening does not really jive w/ the content
if the Watching Movies one is similar but better, maybe i should check that one out
Ariana's skit on SNL where she did vocal impressions was pretty great, these two seem like maybe they deserve each other
― alpine static, Monday, 17 October 2016 09:32 (seven years ago) link
rip Mac Miller
― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
Probably should have posted this somewhere other than a thread about "Frat Rap". I thought this was a joke at first.
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 September 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link
It's being discussed in the "rolling face tat" thread (...I know)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
frat rap more like frat crap amirite
― the late great, Friday, 7 September 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link
oh whoops i didn't see why the revive ... my bad :(
― the late great, Friday, 7 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link
omg chet!
why is Tom Hanks' son Chet Hanks speaking patois? pic.twitter.com/mNh8ih8JhA— Brittny Pierre 🥳♒️ (@sleep2dream) January 6, 2020
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 January 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link
bumbleclot!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link