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Melvins seem to be in a reflective state of mind this year, what with their Friday performances at Spaceland of Lysol, Eggnog, Houdini, Bullhead and Stoner Witch, and their upcoming live album. It is time. The descriptions for albums up through 2006 below were rescued from the no-longer existent stonerrock.com forum, by EGO the Living Planet. At the end he wrote "I would say the best places to start for most beginners are the Atlantic albums and Hostile Ambient Takeover. Nirvana fans might want to start with Bullhead. Punkers will want that or Gluey Porch Treatments. Metalheads will want to go with The Maggot. Drone fans should start with Lysol. Sludge fiends will want to start with Gluey Porch Treatments."

Let's see what ILM prefers.

I kept getting errors, so will put the comments here.

10 Songs (C/Z, 1986)(reissued as 26 Songs on Ipecac in 2003 with tons of bonus stuff and improved sound) Great early stuff. I’d maybe wait until you’ve got more just ‘cause the bonus stuff on the reissue is demos and other versions of the same stuff, which is somethin’ that’ll appeal more to fans than the merely curious.

Gluey Porch Treatments (Boner, 1987; Ipecac, 2000) The first full length and a total classic. Obvious influence from Flipper, My War-era Black Flag, and ‘70’s metal (KISS, Black Sabbath) but totally original. Get the Ipecac reissue, ‘cause the dramatically improved sound really helps kick it out from your speaker. Depending on your tastes it maybe a good place to start.

Ozma (Boner, 1989) Another album in the early Flipper/Flag mode. Good stuff and they’re showin’ some growth, but the disc desperately needs a sonic upgrade. The CD also includes Gluey Porch Treatments, but the Ipecac reissue sounds so much better it might as well not. Also the debut of bassist Lori "Lorax" Black (Shirley Temple’s daughter)

Eggnog EP (Boner, 1991) Killer EP. Get it if you find it.

Bullhead (Boner, 1991) Tied as my favorite Melvins album. If yer into pre-Nevermind grunge this would be an excellent place to start.

Lysol (Boner, 1992) The spray people sued so the title’s not on it anymore and it’s often referred to as self-titled. One 30-minute track. Brutally slow and heavy, but also kinda droney. Many folks think this is their definitive release. One of my favorites. A major inspiration to band like Earth, Boris, and Sunn0))).

The KISS style solo albums (Boner, 1992) Buzz`s and Dale`s are great. Joe’s is too, but for fans of Lysol/Earth-type stuff

Houdini (Atlantic, 1993) Another favorite. As others have said, Cobain produced a few tracks and also played guitar on one song. A "desert island" disc for me. There’s a big jump in production value ‘cause they got on a major label. Atlantic must’ve had no idea what they were gettin’ into.

Stoner Witch (Atlantic, 1994) Probably their most accessible album, but very good. Dale in particular is on fire on this one.

Prick (Amphetamine Reptile, 1994) Careful with this one. It’s the first album length manifestation of their weird/experimental side and it’s way too "out there" for most folks. It’s mostly a bunch of weird noises. It`s not a joke like some folks think, but there are some parts I find quite funny. I love it, but it’ll clear a room.

Stag (Atlantic, 1996) The last major label disc. It’s my wife’s favorite Melvins album. Fuckin’ killer. Some great heavy shit and some of their best weirdness.

Honky (Amphetamine Reptile, 1997) The first post major label album, and it’s a bit of a "fuck you" to Atlantic. Dark, weird and atmospheric, but totally engrossing. Another of my favorites.

Singles 1 - 12 (Amphetamine Reptile, 1997) There’s some interesting stuff and some forgettable stuff. Definitely worth hearing for fans, but not for newcomers. It was limited so it’s probably pretty hard to come by now anyway.

Your Choice Live (Your Choice, 1994)

Alive at The Fucker Club (Amphetamine Reptile, 2001) Solid live releases. Both are hard to find. Neither is the absolute live album throw down they could make if they wanted to.

The Maggot (Ipecac, 1999) Their most consistently heavy album. Absolutely brutal. Just try and find another band that would (or could) make an album like this 15 years into their career. A great place for metal heads to start.

The Bootlicker (Ipecac, 1999) Oddly quiet and eerie. Unlike any other Melvins album (except for maybe parts of Honky). Great, but it’s not gonna give much of an idea what the rest is like.

The Crybaby (Ipecac, 2000) Features a different guest on every track, including Mike Patton, Kevin Sharp, Skeleton Key, Tool, Hank III, David Yow, and Leif Garrett (you read that correctly, he joins them for a cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit"). Everything on it is good, but it doesn’t "flow" well as an album. Interesting for fans, though.

Electroretard (Man’s Ruin, 2001) Another of the weirdo releases. It was on Man’s Ruin and is therefore out of print. Includes some great covers and new, more experimental versions of old stuff. Worth it for the artwork for sure.

Colossus of Destiny (Ipecac, 2001) One hour long noise composition ending with a brutal version of "Eye Flys" from the first album. It’s a great album to kick back and clear the mind to, but most folks find it just too damn hard to love.

Hostile Ambient Takeover (Ipecac, 2002) As it turns out, the last non-collaboration with Kevin Rutmanis on bass. It’s a big fan favorite that has both some absolutely prime ROCK and also stretches out into some neat weird/noise stretches. In some ways I’m even starting to think of it as the quintessential Melvins album, or at least amongst the later Melvins album. Definitely a keeper.

Fantômas And Melvins Big Band - Millennium Monsterwork (Ipecac, 2002) A live album from the Fantomas-Melvins Big Band (all seven members of both bands onstage at once). It was recorded for archival purposes and then released after word got out that it was recorded and Ipecac got flooded with requests. It must have been really fuckin’ cool to watch live. I would absolutely LOVE it if they made a studio record with this line up. The music is cool, but it’s more of a fun one off thing than a serious album. It doesn’t help that the sound quality is about on par with a good bootleg (remember they didn’t record it with the intention of releasing it). Another one that’s good more for fans than the merely curious.

Neither Here Nor There (Ipecac, 2004) The book has some beautiful artwork and some entertaining bathroom reading. The accompanying CD is a solid comp with some nice rarities.

Melvins/Lustmord - Pigs of the Roman Empire (Ipecac, 2004) A collaboration. Has three classic Melvins rockers and some generally long (the title track is 20+ minutes) cinematic instrumental pieces. Definitely succeeds at creating a cool, creepy atmosphere. They really expand on some ideas from COD, HAT, Electroretard and Honkey in a nice way. A very strong release. Not for those who just want the rock.

Jello Biafra And The Melvins - Never Breathe What You Can`t See (Alternative Tentacles, 2004) Another collaboration. This is more of a Jello Biafra album than a Melvins album for sure. The Melvins sound like LARD and Black Flag on this. Very good, but only if you’re into Jello.

Mangled Demos (Ipecac, 2005) Early demos from the original lineup (pre-Dale Crover!) They were a surprisingly good Black Flag style hardcore band. Good stuff, but it’s the only place you’ll ever hear the Melvins sound even a little bit generic.

Jello Biafra And The Melvins - Sieg Howdy! (Alternative Tentacles, 2005) The second collaboration with Jello Biafra feels less like an "album" than an EP or a mix tape, if you know what I mean. That`s it`s charm though. There`s some great new songs ("Voted Off the Island" is my favorite), a great remix by Dalek (and I HATE remixes, so don`t take that compliment lightly), and a hilarious update of "California Uber Allis" with lyrics about "the Governator." It`s lots of fun, especially if you`re a Jello fan too.

A Live History of Gluttony and Lust (Ipecac, 2006) A rippin’ live recording of a show where they played the Houdini album in it’s entirety. Some of the songs were never intended to be played live, so they’ve been changed around some for this recording. There’s some stellar bass work form guest bassist Trevor Dunn. A very nice treat for fans, but not somethin’ I would recommend for a starter. My only complaint is that there isn’t more of this (like stuff from other albums).

A Senile Animal (Hydra Head, 2006) After the departure of longest term ever bassist Kevin Rutmanis, the Melvins recruited both members of Big Business (bassist Jared Warren and SECOND drummer Coady Willis). The result is one of the most hard driving (if not THE most hard driving) records of their career. It’s also strangely possibly the most accessible album they’ve ever done. It’s probably a good place for beginners, and longtime fans won’t want to miss this fist pumping, high energy rock-a-thon/percussion avalanche.

Nude With Boots (Ipecac, 2008) The second album with the same double-drums lineup, and the band has tightened up, with the trademark lumbering heaviness accented by several concise, almost sprightly fast cuts, with more dips into tuneful melody than ever.

Chicken Switch (Ipecac, 2009) Remixes from Matmos, Lee Ranaldo, Boredoms' Yamatsuka Eye, Acid Mothers Temple's Kawabata Makota and Merzbow, mostly warping the original material beyond recognition.

The Bride Screamed Murder (Ipecac, 2010) Another surprisingly accessible album, together with A Senile Animal and Nude With Boots, might compare favorably to their Atlantic trilogy.

Sugar Daddy Live (Ipecac, 2011) This live set was recorded at The Busta-Guts Club in Downey, CA, and will feature fan favorites such as "Boris," "A History of Bad Men," "The Kicking Machine," "Rat Faced Granny," "Civilized Worm," their cover of "The Star Spangled Banner" and seven others. It will be released on May 31.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Bullhead (Boner, 1991) 7
Ozma (Boner, 1989) 6
Gluey Porch Treatments (Boner, 1987; Ipecac, 2000 5
Lysol (Boner, 1992) 4
Houdini (Atlantic, 1993) 3
10 Songs (C/Z, 1986 2
Stag (Atlantic, 1996) 2
A Senile Animal (Hydra Head, 2006) 2
Eggnog EP (Boner, 1991) 2
Hostile Ambient Takeover (Ipecac, 2002) 1
Stoner Witch (Atlantic, 1994) 1
Honky (Amphetamine Reptile, 1997) 1
Fantômas And Melvins Big Band - Millennium Monsterwork (Ipecac, 2002) 0
Neither Here Nor There (Ipecac, 2004) 0
Melvins/Lustmord - Pigs of the Roman Empire (Ipecac, 2004) 0
Jello Biafra And The Melvins - Never Breathe What You Can`t See (Alternative Tentacles, 2004) 0
Mangled Demos (Ipecac, 2005) 0
Jello Biafra And The Melvins - Sieg Howdy! (Alternative Tentacles, 2005) 0
A Live History of Gluttony and Lust (Ipecac, 2006) 0
The Bride Screamed Murder (Ipecac, 2010) 0
Chicken Switch (Ipecac, 2009) 0
Nude With Boots (Ipecac, 2008) 0
Colossus of Destiny (Ipecac, 2001) 0
Dale Crover EP (Boner, 1992) 0
Joe Preston EP (Boner, 1992) 0
King Buzzo EP (Boner, 1992) 0
Prick (Amphetamine Reptile, 1994) 0
Singles 1 - 12 (Amphetamine Reptile, 1997) 0
Your Choice Live (Your Choice, 1994) 0
Alive at The Fucker Club (Amphetamine Reptile, 2001) 0
The Maggot (Ipecac, 1999) 0
The Bootlicker (Ipecac, 1999) 0
The Crybaby (Ipecac, 2000) 0
Electroretard (Man’s Ruin, 2001) 0
Sugar Daddy Live (Ipecac, 2011) 0


Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Best Melvins Record

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Joe Preston's solo thing is way underrated & i love a ton of these, but this is basically Bullhead vs. Lysol vs. Houdini, right?

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Lysol

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Your Choice Live (Your Choice, 1994)

^^ just found this in a $2 bin the other day, so much goodness

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Your Choice Live is such a weird label.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

A Senile Animal and Nude With Boots have really grown on me lately. There might be some boosters of those discs.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

This is so tough. I'd have to say, based on how much time I've spent with 'em, I'd go with either Houdini or Stoner Witch. But there are times when I think that Gluey Porch and Ozma are just as great. Also, the recent run with the Big Business dudes cannot be slept on - even with the slight dip in quality with Bride.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Houdini probably wins because its delights are so immediate. I might go Lysol if they ever remaster it

hey jelixy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I've always had a hard time getting into Lysol because it sounds awful to me.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

fuckin' Bullhead

stoner rock forum no longer exists? hmm.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Houdini and Bullhead are both great, but Stag is next level...it's like a bizarre surrealist/stream-of-consciousness concept album...

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

eggnog v. lysol for me

original bgm, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lysol v bullhead v the maggot v (a) senile animal

m the g, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

'Nog!

Followed by Lysol, Houdini, Tanx, Stoner Witch, Bullhead, etc etc

There's nothing left alive but a pair of ashy thighs (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted Houdini. Wonder if I am the only one. Will find out in a few days...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Houdini's really good! Some days I might vote for it. But not today.

There's nothing left alive but a pair of ashy thighs (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I kind of see it as the dividing line between the early Melvins and the later stuff. There's a difference there, right? I can never seem to quantify it.

There's nothing left alive but a pair of ashy thighs (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I like houdini, but I much prefer the gluttony live version.

m the g, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: post houdini, there's a bigger focus on production weirdness

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Melvins told me to tell you all to suck it. They don't care which ones you like.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 18 March 2011 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Houdini eye guess

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Friday, 18 March 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

But I care. Did anyone ignore their 1997-2005 output? I've been getting reacquainted with Honky, The Maggot, The Bootlicker, and Hostile Ambient Takeover. I'm really into The Maggot right now.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 18 March 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

coudn't get v far into Honky :(

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 18 March 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, really? honky is pretty top-tier imo.

original bgm, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Lysol. Not just one of their best. One of THE best. Ever.

gman59, Friday, 18 March 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

think i voted Houdini last time. its still my fave

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to Alan N: will probably give it another shot, liked some of it, just seemed like it would take more time to 'get it' than I wanted to give...

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 March 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe no one else is repping for Stag...

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 21 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been enjoying re-listening to Gluey Porch Treatments and Ozma. I remember first hearing Melvins around '88 -- there was really no one that sounded remotely like them at the time, and I feel those albums should get some bonus points for being the first. Eggnog and Lysol are cool, but I much prefer them in a series of short bursts. BTW, it's been a decade since Ipecac remastered and reissued Gluey. What's keeping them from doing Ozma and a kickass deluxe package with Boris, Eggnog and Lysol?

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 21 March 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, I accidentally substituted the awesome lead track "Boris" for Bullhead.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 21 March 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

a Bullhead without "Boris" is no Bullhead imo

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 21 March 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

They really do need to do a boxed set of the Boner Years.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 March 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, the early stuff dominated. Thought I might see a point or two for Nude With Boots, but just so much stuff to choose from. I sent a link to Ipecac ;)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I sent a link to Ipecac ;)

LOL!

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

you should do a Melvins re-poll from 1999 forward (Crybaby, Bootlicker, Maggot onward) -- would be much more interesting!

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I imagine the Melvins own the rights to these records so I can't imagine it would be too much trouble to arrange a re-ish. There are some singles and stuff around this period too for bonus tracks, etc.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

you should do a Melvins re-poll from 1999 forward (Crybaby, Bootlicker, Maggot onward) -- would be much more interesting!

less interesting, as it would have less voters

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

what would you recommend to listen to first, fastnbulbous, in your world of post-99 Melvins albums

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

more interesting as we'd learn what ppl actually liked (if anything) from the last decade of melvins

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

post 99 top 5

1. A Senile Animal
2. The Bootlicker
3. Nude With Boots
4. Colossus Of Destiny
5. Pigs of the Roman Empire

maher shalal smash paz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

A Senile Animal is my fave Big Biz era LP just because they were still figuring it out and there's a lot of tension, sloppiness and weirdness on it before they got all super-duper tight. The Bootlicker is a great outlier record, almost indie rock/post-rock in parts and dudes were no joke with melodies anyway

maher shalal smash paz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

what about Hostile Ambient Takeover Whiney?

I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my least favorites, actually! My fave Melvs records are the ones where they're the most all-out poppy (Houdini, Stoner Witch, Senile Animal) or the most art-rocky weirdo-sludgo (Crybaby, Lysol, Colossus Of Destiny). HAT is kind of on the unadventurous side for a Melvins record.

maher shalal smash paz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

The new live record is fucking boss, btw

maher shalal smash paz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

when's it out?

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

May 31 is the release date.

My faves since 99 are:

Nude With Boots
A Senile Animal
The Maggot
The Bride Screamed Murder
Hostile Ambient Takeover
The Crybaby

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

In tribute to this awesome poll, Melvins are presenting us with this gift:

MELVINS Double Door, 5/31 8:30 PM (performing the albums Lysol, Eggnog & Houdini in their entirety)
MELVINS Double Door, 6/1, 8:30 PM (performing the albums Bullhead and Stoner Witch in their entirety)

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

totally missed this poll would've voted the maggot

7+ minute (jdchurchill), Monday, 16 May 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

picked up Gluey Porch Treatments and it's so good, one of those bands who apparently emerged fully formed and had it nailed from the beginning

Neil S, Thursday, 13 May 2021 09:46 (three years ago) link

It's been hard to get excited about most of what they've done post-Big Business lineup. I haven't even bothered to check out their album from February.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link

Houdini was robbed.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link


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