CLUSTER / Moebius & Roedelius solo & group recordings 1970-1986 poll

impossible.

& just to shortcircuit all those Ax Geinrich fans, yes the Supersession record is cool but were you really going to vote for it

ha ha

& I did forget two! tarnation

Cluster - Live Metz 23-9-77 (bootleg)
Cluster & Farnbauer - Live in Vienna 1980

i totally knew this was a milton thread

my first poll

i consider myself a fan and i've only heard like a third of these

I never vote in polls, but I had to weigh in here. I knew it could potentially encompass hours upon hours of tortured overthought, so I just went with my gut. Of course, I kicked myself about 5-6 other records within seconds of doing so.

I have about 70% of these records. i am pretty sure that Milton has them all

never heard of farnbauer! who was he?

I have about 80% of them on LP, all of them again on CD.

to the best of my knowledge Farnbauer is a percussionist who played one concert with Cluster! not the tightest rhythmically but plays some mean atmospherics. it came out on cassette, reissued two years ago on Important, as an improv concert it wanders a bit but the 25 minute track 'Metalle' is worth the wait

durch die wuste is pretty good

Selbstportrait II been my favorite lately, but yeah, I've heard maybe half of these.

Actually, I've heard most of them, but only own a couple. Not made of money!

rastakraut pasta, double cut, and zero set are later ones i have enjoyed but it's still all about zuckerzeit and sowieso for me

Inclusion of Harmonia makes this poll totally impossible so I haven't even considered voting

Seconded.

Thirded.

Tonspuren is the sleeper here.

Voted sowieso but looking forward to seeing what the rest of you recommend as I've only heard about ten of these

I only know about 7 of these - voted Deluxe.

forgot the umlaut in 'Wüste' - this poll totally needs to be redone

This poll is cruel. Cruel! I'll probably vote for "Deluxe" or "Zuckerzeit". Extremely fond of the Liliental album too though. Then there's the solo albums. Blimey.

xp - yeah I was wondering, is that a different album? I would have voted differently

Okay, I voted.

My favorite record on that list is far-and-away Harmonia's Deluxe. That said, I feel it's more of a Rother & Co. record and not a Cluster record.

So I voted Cluster II. I can still remember the first time I heard it, in the dead of winter, driving on a mostly empty highway late at night. Perfectly mind-blowing listen...like hearing the frequencies of a distant planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kVr8_c-HJY

sowiesoso is all time obv but wenn der südwind weht got me thru this last week so voted that. LOTTA options though. rodelius is playing in atlanta soon, obv i'm going - anyone seen him lately?

>This poll is cruel. Cruel!

yes, should have had 'they are as alike as trees and best considered as a whole' option

there are really only about 4 or 5 of them that haven't been my favorite at some point. even the ones that seemed slight at first, I keep coming back to. and the main albums all sound so radically different from each other and yet you can always tell it's them within seconds

yes, should have had 'they are as alike as trees and best considered as a whole' option

totally
why choose? it's like choosing which tropical fruit i like best. i like them all -- they are tropical fruit!

i guess i marginally prefer solo roedelius to solo moebius, but i prefer them together overall

so I can't vote kluster & friends huh

seriously considering voting for harmonia live '74. god, it's so good.

Amazing how hard it is for everyone to choose -- myself included. Has any outfit assembled such a diverse yet consistently innovative catalogue? I mean, in addition to those already mentioned, I'd rep for the piano loops of Wie Das Wisperen Der Winde almost as much as, say, Harmonia Live '74.

love love love Jardin au Fou, but I still don't really know what to vote for.

Might go with that just so it gets a nod, though these Harmonia records. Man.

>so I can't vote kluster & friends huh

no M or R on any of those. was a little tweaked by Schnitzler using the Kluster name to release music by the band that at the time was known as Eruption, but the music on that box was consistently good and admittedly sounded in the same vein as Kluster.

I was tempted to make this a 68-86 poll to include the Human Being record, and probably should have

got the Wasser Im Wind CD last night, which sounds a lot clearer than the fuzzy transfer Roedelius was selling from his website for years, but y'know what I think I prefer the fuzzy transfer. that album was the first one with acoustic instruments like sax & violin & I think I liked it more when it was harder to tell that was the case, although he's still in Selbstportrait melody-writing mode

>Has any outfit assembled such a diverse yet consistently innovative catalogue?

No

i noticed Roedelius is doing a show in sf (cafe du nord iirc) soon. anybody seen a show by him here?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Voted z.z. top.

real tough but had to go with Sowiesoso... if for nothing other than nostalgic reasons.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I, for one, am outraged.

I kid: Sowiesoso is amazing.

props to whoever voted curiosum. underrated record.

that was me

bummed no one voted doppelschnitt. side two has treated me so well on road trips the last 20 years, people only catching up now. 'recorded in minimalstudio'

love all 36 of you peoples

& favorite roedelius solo, still selbstportrait vol III

& for posterity now that the votes have come in, the original chronology

Human Being - Live at the Zodiak, Berlin 1968 (2009)
Kluster - Klopzeichen (1971)
Kluster - Zwei-Osterei (1971)
Kluster - Eruption (1971)
Cluster - Cluster '71 (1971)
Cluster - Cluster II (1972)
Harmonia - Musik von Harmonia (1974)
Harmonia - Live '74 (2007)
Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974)
Harmonia - Deluxe (1975)
Cluster - Sowiesoso (1976)
Harmonia 76 - Tracks and Traces (1997)
Cluster & Eno - Cluster & Eno (1977)
Liliental - Liliental (1978)
Roedelius - Durch die Wüste (1978)
Eno Moebius Roedelius - After The Heat (1978)
Cluster - Grosses Wasser (1979)
Roedelius - Jardin au Fou (1979)
Roedelius - Selbstportrait (1979)
Moebius & Plank - Rastakraut Pasta (1980)
Cluster & Farnbauer - Live in Vienna 1980 (2010)
Roedelius - Selbstportrait Vol. II (1980)
Roedelius - Selbstportrait Vol. III (1980)
Cluster - Curiosum (1981)
Roedelius - Lustwandel (1981)
Moebius & Plank - Material (1981)
Roedelius - Wenn Der Südwind Weht (1981)
Moebius & Beerbohm - Strange Music (1982)
Roedelius - Offene Türen (1982)
Roedelius - Flieg Vogel Fliege (1982)
Roedelius - Wasser im Wind (1982)
Moebius - Tonspuren (1983)
Moebius / Plank / Neumeier - Zero Set (1983)
Moebius & Beerbohm - Double Cut (1984)
Roedelius - Gift of the Moment (1984)
Roedelius - Wie Das Wispern Des Windes... (1986)
Moebius - Blue Moon Soundtrack (1986)

props to whoever voted cluster 71 o wait that was me

couldn't we break this down into a couple of polls? how did you guys figure out what to vote for

I voted for my favorite album

we could always do Roedelius

I would be very much down with that.

http://connyplank.com/img/werke/02.jpg

...anthony perkins

Broken Head (1) Remix with stray guitar
Broken Head (2) ... without

http://connyplank.com/ btw

Dolby A

Dolby!

Roedelius always seems to put me into some kind of fever dream state. It's an interesting phenomenon.

Pretty excited to see the tracklist for the first 2 discs of that Plank box.

I am pretty excited for disc 4 of that Plank box

That too! Everything except disc 3 basically!

selbstporträts i & ii are so great

Was listening to stuff on random and "Legende" came up; what an incredible (and way too short!) piece that one was. are any of the later roedeliuses worth diving into?

the electronic arrangement of Legende, Alle Jahre Wieder, on Selbstportrait II is even better

all the Roedelius albums on this poll are pretty lovable, I think I mutter about some of the latterdays on the Roedelius thread

Every time Heise Lippen(Zuckerzeit) comes up on my random playlist, it makes me smile.
:)

thought i'd heard all the crucial roedelius stuff but only now just got around to this one. really his best of the solo piano works. apparently its a tribute to his mother

http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/r/roedelius-wie_das_wispern_des_winds.jpg

I bought that on iTunes -- there's something funky going on with that record. I can't tell if it's that the record is multitracked, edited together with loops or if he is using a long delay on his piano.

Moebius solo albums creep me out

For those of you who might be interested, I have posted the entire Kluster / Cluster / Harmonia / Roedelius discography here - along with the album reviews here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/sets/72157624709969408/

Best wishes, Stephen Iliffe (author of Painting with Sound - the life and music of Roedelius)

wow, very cool, thanks

Your Flickr account is a treasure trove, Stephen.

Loved your book, btw.

wow, I didn't know about half these thing

time to go waste 2 hours

wow
¡¡muchísimas gracias!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvgZmwjCq8

recently got the Bureau B reissue of 'Sowiesoso', which is the first CD edition to restore the first minute of the title track which has been missing from every digital edition since the 90's Sky one. It's so good to hear the long slow build all the way through again. They didn't finesse some of the crispy distortions out of some of the surges the way they did with the Water reissue, but I like it, the fry is supposed to be there, sounds like the original wafer-thin vinyl.

if your mp3 is 7:20 and not 8:11, totally worth rectifying

Oh that's great to know. My copy is still the old Gyroscope CD but that's an all time top 20 album for me.

full length version

Mind blown

does anyone know which month Zuckerzeit came out in 1974?