fiona apple - the idler wheel is wiser than the driver of the screw and whipping cords will serve you more than ropes will ever do (2012)

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FIONA APPLE

ANNOUNCES NEW ALBUM ON JUNE 18TH

‘THE IDLER WHEEL IS WISER

THAN THE DRIVER OF THE SCREW

AND WHIPPING CORDS WILL SERVE YOU MORE

THAN ROPES WILL EVER DO’


GRAMMY® winning artist Fiona Apple is set to release her first album in seven years on June 18th. Like Apple’s 1999 record, When the Pawn…, the title of the new record is a poem:

‘THE IDLER WHEEL IS WISER

THAN THE DRIVER OF THE SCREW

AND WHIPPING CORDS WILL SERVE YOU MORE

THAN ROPES WILL EVER DO’

“Every Single Night,” the collection’s first single, will be released on June 10th. The cover for THE IDLER WHEEL… features an illustration by Apple.

Tracklisting

1. Every Single Night
2. Daredevil
3. Valentine
4. Jonathan
5. Left Alone
6. Werewolf
7. Periphery
8. Regret
9. Anything We Want
10. Hot Knife

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

thought this deserved a new thread. i haven't heard any of the new stuff that she's presumably played live yet, but i'm still excited.

re: the title: lol never change fiona

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Re track #4-- is she still dating Jonathan Ames?

aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgaCacrg0ZA

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

her time is now...

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

this is actually great!

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

i'm heartily amused by the critical attention (rightly) being lavished on her atm! this was not the case in the 90s, iirc everyone just called her an alanis morissette clone o_0

though it doesn't exactly seem like ilm is falling over itself to get excited about her smh

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Well, like I just said on Twitter, this is because at least a few of us were never excited about her to start with.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

ehhhh ilm has never been into young female singer-songwriters though, has it

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

That last Taylor Swift album thread was huge!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

Is ilm into ANYTHING as a whole? Nah. Plenty of people like female singer-songwriters though.

I take Fiona Apple on a case by case basis, and this song doesn't do anything for me. Still, I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

no, i mean the tori/fiona/suzanne vega type of singer-songwriter

xp

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

accusing people of not liking musicians because of their age/gender out of nowhere just raises the question of whether you like them because of their age/gender

Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

When I like her songs, I tend to like them a lot, otherwise I think she can be too technical a singer w/o enough emotion to back it up or conversely too overwrought. This doesn't do much for me but it does remind me that I miss her voice.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

^ this

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

i like the hits a lot. you know, the famous fiona songs. they played the criminal song on the radio this morning when i was taking the kids to school and i always like hearing it. some of the non-hits bog down for me with that samey piano formula and can be a bit of a drag. i like this song a lot because its so sparse. i like her voice.

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

What Scott said.

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

(to some extent. I DID love all of Extraordinary Machine.)

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

Dig this new song. The minimal instrumentation works really well.

Turangalila, Thursday, 26 April 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link

"I just made a meal for us both choke on" is just classic Fiona delivery of lyrics that somehow reaches into some deep crevice inside you and then you unravel (sorry)

I just wish that in between her crazy indolent periods she'd just release cover albums because since 1996 I haven't found a voice I love this much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0zPYHTEiPs

With this and her "Walkin' After Midnight" cover I wish she was my classic country jukebox

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Friday, 27 April 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

man the photo with that article

just sayin, Thursday, 31 May 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

"anything we want"

http://pigperson.tumblr.com/post/24231972248/fiona-apple-anything-we-want

uberweiss, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

Like the song, voice sounds weirdly raspy.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

I think I need to get used to whatever it is she's doing with her voice in this song.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

Im indifferent to most of her songs but First Taste is one of the sexiest songs of the 90s.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

I don't see any relation between her and Alanis Morissette? Humourless female singer songwriters both of them but their voices and their music don't sound alike at all.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Fiona Apple is humorless?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

There's a lot of dark humor in When The Pawn and Extraordinary Machine.

In other news, I'm pretty sure this album is going to kill me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fby632bPn0E&feature=youtu.be

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

eh whatever http://youtu.be/Fby632bPn0E

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm heartily amused by the critical attention (rightly) being lavished on her atm! this was not the case in the 90s, iirc everyone just called her an alanis morissette clone o_0

Tidal finished 35th on Pazz & Jop, and "Criminal" was the #11 single, so it's not like critics were universally dismissing her.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and When the Pawn finished 7th!

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, the whole "finally, my peers are getting into fiona apple / i was always into fiona apple" thing that perpetua/lex have been throwing around rings false b/c i was a total unnuanced indie fuck when i bought when the pawn and i bought it based on the critical attention

but i was also like 14 so i dunno

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i remember tons of people being excited about when the pawn hits when it came out (i think i was a freshman in college?). seems like she's always been a step cooler than morrissette and her ilk.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

full album stream yay!

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=154422085&m=154351745

uberweiss, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

:D

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, this is marvelous.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

who is drumming on this record

i would like to give it up for that drummer

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link

in the past few years I've seen her live a bunch of times and she's just so fuckin talented, I'm not even a fan of her recorded material or anything it's just like her shit's so undeniable when you see her idk

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link

BradNelson, it's Charley Drayton, who co-produced the album with her.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

yesyesyesyesyes this album

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

the rounds on "hot knife" i just sat there looking at my speakers going OMGOMG silently to myself

the LYRICS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

the ARRANGEMENTS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

This is great. "Hot Knife" is crazy good, though hard to pick a favorite so far.

Regional Tug (irrational), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

remember when we argued on the concept of regret?
you were an expert even then but not me, not yet
now all you gotta do's remind me that we met

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I don't think anyone was expecting Hot Knife at all.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Judging by "Hot Knife" and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO31CyFlTI

Fiona and her sister should together more often.

This album is tremendous.

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

That's ...ironic?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

haha

i think characterising apple's lyrics as "bottomless pit of despair" might be even worse though. do they not hear her humour?

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

Every Single Night is an earworm, heard it tonight and it clicked. For a minute I thought I was listening to an obscure Nancy Sinatra or Dusty Springfield joint.

Hot Knife is good too. This might be better than I originally thought.

Moka, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

The feet shuffling on "Periphery" have really grown on me.

LimbsKing, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

well i heard "every single night" the other day and it is wonderful, def gonna listen to this EVENTUALLY even tho i am really bad about "getting to" albums i want to listen to

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Worth a read.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

'sultry analysand'

!

j., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I adore the minimalism of the instrumentation and imo it suits her vocals better than anything I've heard before. As much as I love Jon Brion I just did not like Extraordinary Machine for this reason. The drums in some of the songs on Idler Wheel remind me quite a bit of Wildbirds and Peacedrums.

Grease Jones (scottfree), Sunday, 5 August 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Werewolf is wonderful

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

For true

Revisiting this for the first time in a couple monthS, still hits hard

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 10 December 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

I can totally see why someone wouldn't like this, just like I could Tuneyards say, but I reckon they would be listening with prejudice. It's great.

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/fiona-apple-the-idler-wheel-etc-round-42-toms-selection/

yugi ex, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

"Every single night" is such a smoking opener. I am awed that this woman begins her album with such an explicit "hey guys, I'm craaazeee" lyric, feels empowering to listen to

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha braaaaiiaiaiain! brain! braaaiaiaiaiaiain! brain! Remember 1999 when a girl would sing about something not-cute and people would call her crazy? They were RIGHT suck on IT

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

"Werewolf" still capable of fucking me up everytime

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

That track floored me driving this morning.

Gukbe, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

respect this album more than I like listening to it. but I should revisit it again.

akm, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Just got it this week and am loving it.

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus christ, this fucking album. Speaking as an unabashed Fiona fan, I have no idea why I put off listening to it for so long. The sparse, minimalist rawness suits her so well that I kinda retroactively wish she'd never gotten mixed up with Jon Brion (even though those albums sound great). So many wonderful untethered moments here. Upon first listen, it sounded like a musical version of Isabelle Adjani's performance in Possession, which is about as high a compliment as I could pay an artist.

Alien Lays (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 December 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm so in love with this album

'Anything We Want' killllls me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 March 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for the "It's Only Make Believe" cover upthread. Whazzabout this cover of Macca's "Let Me Roll It"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM11NrlF8Dc

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

what a still

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 April 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG1VVFfOnYQ

Gukbe, Thursday, 25 July 2013 06:41 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I need more albums like this. Any recommendations?

woolsuit, Friday, 22 August 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

Lisa Germano's Geek the Girl feels tonally (if not necessarily sonically) similar to me.

Two Scoops of Plump, Juicy Raisins (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 August 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link

This album is pretty sui generis, no?

Treeship, Friday, 22 August 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link

Wildbirds and Peacedrums

faghetti (fgti), Friday, 22 August 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Cousins: Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss America and Jesca Hoop's Silverscreen Demos.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

listening to this album a lot recently, and it is still so singular and great.

every record fiona makes is the perfect record for that time in my life.

dc, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Do love this record so very much.

Austin, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

fiona really elevates this andrew bird song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwtWExDmoI

dc, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

On my shortlist for favorites of the year.

Austin, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

forgot how fucking good this album is.

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

one of the best wordsmiths to ever grace music

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

I can only take the deep dive back into this album after I've had some time away from it, but boy oh boy when I do...

'Left Alone' hitting like a hammer atm. Feeling you, Fee-Fee.

Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

same here old lunch - last time i put this on was dec. in the xposts there, but i had not heard it since the tour and shit i forgot how good it is - the biggest shame is how fiona seems to have no intention of releasing a new record, but only stray singles like left hand kisses - based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

i'm sure she'll drop a new record, but the gaps are getting wider between each one. considering how much of her soul she puts into each one, i can't really blame her for not wanting to go through that experience more than once or twice a decade.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

otm

seeing her live twice was amazing, she is such a great performer and the audience loves her infinitely.

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

I was actually just talking about how good this album is the other day

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

her poetry is super on point on this one (is on all of them obviously) and i admire how the record uses field recordings and avant-garde methods to create such raw, powerful songs

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

'Regret' is a raging blast furnace that reduces me to ash, every time.

Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

otm

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

"based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv"

who can blame her

akm, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

not me

sounds ideal

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

i had a very bad week/month which had a lot to do with trying to reconnect with an ex and i think i should've been listening to this album the whole time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

Good idea

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

even the "fuck you you complete asshole" songs on this one are so nuanced

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

I spent August 2012 listening to this album in a loop

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, November 30, 2018 4:16 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nothin wrong when a song ends in a minor key

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

my ills are reticulate
my woes are granular
the ants weigh more than the elephants

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link


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