Death Trip
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
search & destroy, if you wish...
(also, is it the obvious winner?)
― nostormo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
gimme danger, little stranger
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
yr pretty face over gimme danger
― balls, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
like.. you..hooooooo
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme Danger
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
S&D vs. GD for me - one the best album 1-2 punches EVA
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
An old favourite, haven't listened to it in ages. "Search and Destroy."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
Penetration
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
strange. just listened to this two nights ago for the first time in ages. s&d
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme Danger or Penetration. Haven't listened to this in forever, so I'll need a freshener before I choose.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme Danger, but I was tempted to throw a vote to Shake Appeal because I don't see it getting many
― no love spud webb (fadanuf4erybody), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Danger and S&D will be hard to beat (see what I did there)
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:47 (eleven years ago) link
i voted for 'shake appeal,' it's totally underrated. like a long-lost jerry lee lewis song from hell.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:55 (eleven years ago) link
title track. love the piano
― groovemaaan, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 07:14 (eleven years ago) link
Shake Appeal was such a huge set highlight at their Palladium show last year that I wanna give it the win, but Pretty Face murders on the album.
― Everything You Like Sucks, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
Add me to list of posters whose 2nd favourite song on this album is Shake Appeal.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps not an obvious choice, but sometimes nothing hits the spot quite like 'I Need Somebody'.
― jiff boycott (NickB), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
Rarely has a record been more aptly-named than this one. I could pick at least six of these as a favourite depending on my mood but I'm going for 'Gimme Danger'. Love the mix of acoustic and electric guitars.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link
this is one tuff mutha to vote on ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
Every track on this album rules
― Hello, Good Evening and Expenses (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link
It's hard to beat, certainly...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
penetration
― the late great, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
for the xylophone
clementine innit?
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
celeste?
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah that sounds right, I already spent way too much time this morning futilely searching for the answer of that question.
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
Ha I spent a lot of time once trying to confirm/debunk origin of the phrase "shake appeal" but I don't know if I can lie and say that Gimme Danger is not my favorite.
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
pretty face, but there's not a stinker in the pile.
― His avid reading taught him things before he had not found (stevie), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised that this hasn't been polled before. Anyway, Gimme Danger by a whisker over the title track.
― Widely Recycled (Mr Andy M), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
So funny they included that "(originally titled Hard to Beat)" detail in the track listing. One bitter Stooge clearly would not give in on that one. Would be great if all songs were titled like that, like "Yesterday (originally titled Scrambled Eggs)".
― brio, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme Danger seems to have secured its position in the top3 so Death Trip. Could listen to that riff for hours, days even.
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
listened to this yesterday and it's "Penetration" that gets my vote. It's a damn good record.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
understatement
― nostormo, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
if this were a s/t poll i'd vote for "wanna be your dog" ... for the one note piano
something about those little twinklings set against the aggression of the band really does it for me
― the late great, Friday, 19 October 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Death Trip. For the riff
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
Gimme Danger fans unfamiliar with Girls Aloud should check out No Good Advice whose verses sound like a mash up of the staccato My Sharona riff and the second half of Gimme Danger's verse riff!
― Paul, Friday, 19 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
another vote for any of 6 or so faves here but yeah had to go with Penetration
― Paul, Friday, 19 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
Congratulations, you just got me to watch a Girls Aloud video.
Anyway, gimme Gimme Danger. I know it's already well represented, so let's make it a landslide.
― I hate Tig Notaro so much I gave Louis C.K. a dollar (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
your pretty face
― charlie h, Saturday, 20 October 2012 06:42 (eleven years ago) link
penetration is also a nice little song with a bit of a spirit of the wolf thing happening
― charlie h, Saturday, 20 October 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link
pretty face.
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 22 October 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
I voted Pretty Face but that was just contrarianism, shoulda voted S+D or Danger
― Ernest Metalchats (Tom D.), Monday, 22 October 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
Voted "Gimme Danger". So much menace.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
'Penetration' for desperate swagger licked by a xylophone
― cardamon, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ sequencing
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
Indeed. "I Need Someody" is better than 2 votes, a lot better, I think it's the only song which is improved by the Iggy mix
― Ernest Metalchats (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for it!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 08:58 (eleven years ago) link
Well done you!
― Ernest Metalchats (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 09:04 (eleven years ago) link
ta.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/iggyandthestooges/posts/612406485501776
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM IGGY:My dear friend Scott Asheton passed away last night.Scott was a great artist, I have never heard anyone play the drums with more meaning than Scott Asheton. He was like my brother. He and Ron have left a huge legacy to the world. The Asheton's have always been and continue to be a second family to me.My thoughts are with his sister Kathy, his wife Liz and his daughter Leanna, who was the light of his life.Iggy Pop
Scott was a great artist, I have never heard anyone play the drums with more meaning than Scott Asheton. He was like my brother. He and Ron have left a huge legacy to the world. The Asheton's have always been and continue to be a second family to me.
My thoughts are with his sister Kathy, his wife Liz and his daughter Leanna, who was the light of his life.
Iggy Pop
:(
RIP
― Scooby Doom (۩), Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
He was such a tremendous player, and I never felt he really got his due. The knife-edge tension of Fun House is entirely due to his playing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpV2N7VCnpY
― nostormo, Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
RIP rock action
― StanM, Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
― an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
Rock Action on drums, indeed.
― an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OvB-wDt7mA
― willem, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Sony just issued a new remaster of all digital platforms (streaming and download stores). I just got a FLAC copy and while the Bowie mix is a slight improvement, the Iggy mix from 1997 is an enormous one - no more digital clipping and distortion from the insane brickwall mastering that marred its CD release, this is how that 1997 remix should have sounded. It's too bad they didn't release this as a CD or vinyl box set - I definitely would have got one. (It's four "discs" with the live show in Atlanta and an album's worth of alternate takes and mixes.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 5 February 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
*across all digital platforms
― birdistheword, Sunday, 5 February 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link
I remember going to a party where someone had the newly-released Iggy mix in their 5 CD changer, and when the shuffle played the tracks from that between the other CDs, it was so much louder than the other discs that the effect was obnoxious. I wasn't much more impressed listening to the remix on my own later, maybe this remastering will help.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 5 February 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link
I was gonna ignore this because I don't really like the album that much anyway and that CD-era Iggy mix was a fucking atrocity. But based on your description, I'll check it out.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 February 2023 02:52 (one year ago) link
Giving this a listen now -- yeah, pretty good!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link
I can't emphasize enough how poorly they mastered the 1997 CD. The mix was fine, everyone was happy with it, but when it came time to master it, Iggy wanted it obnoxiously compressed - that's really what he meant about "everything in the red," he wanted the meters to stay in the red virtually the entire time. The engineering team actually explained to him over and over again why on a technical level that was a really bad idea - nothing against loud volumes, but what he was asking for wasn't the same as cranking up the volume on your stereo, it had more to do with the limits of digital data.
Allegedly they came to a compromise where they backed off a tiny bit, but it's hard to believe - if you run that CD through a dynamic range meter, the average dynamic range per song is usually 1 or 2 and even below 1 on one track. At the peak of the "loudness wars," those CD's typically hit like 4 or 5, and before digital, most rock music was about 10 or above.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 5 February 2023 04:07 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkUc2O6EAk
This is fantastic but after so many years of blowing my eardrums out with the Iggy CD on shitty stock truck speakers it's confusing to listen to it and not feel like I've been assaulted.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 5 February 2023 07:14 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I listened to a little of it earlier and had the same reaction…
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Sunday, 5 February 2023 07:33 (one year ago) link
The Iggy sounds better this way but still *wrong* to me. I get why people don't like it, but the Bowie mix has a certain verve to it that I'm pretty attached to.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link
I don't think either mix is "good". The Bowie mix sounds like a work print of a movie; all the guitar leads are scotch taped into place and everything is sharp and jabbing at the ear, but not in a good way. The Iggy mix feels like an attempt to flatten everything into a block and thereby make it sound more like a direct sequel to Fun House, so there's a little more low end, but the whole thing feels weirdly muffled, like you're hearing it really loud through a thin wall.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
Yeah the remaster of the Iggy mix sounds weirdly muffled to me. I can’t A/B it with the original, cuz they seem to have pulled it off streaming(?) Will have to pull out my CD. I still can’t get with the Bowie mix, unperson’s description is OTM.
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
thanks for the heads up, bird. i've always been a bowie-mix man. i had decades to live with it, and it's just so weird and depraved sounding. i'll give the iggy mix (yet) another shot though with this version.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 5 February 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
I love that they didn’t fade out “Death Trip” on the 1997 mix.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 5 February 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
These new remasters are coming to vinyl at the end of March as a twofer courtesy of RSD Essentials.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
"RSD Essentials" - an exciting new oxymoron
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
There's a book called Real Conversations on the Re/Search label and it includes interviews with Henry Rollins, Jello Biafra, Billy Childish, and Lawrence Ferlinghetti: https://www.researchpubs.com/shop/p/real-conversations-ferlinghetti-henry-rollins-biafra-billy-childish
Here's an excerpt from Henry Rollins's interview with V. Vale:
"You know, I backed up and restored Raw Power. We'd heard that the multi-track had been stolen from England and ended up in Belgium. We ran into a friend who was in Tuxedo Moon, Steven Brown, asked him about this and he said 'Yeah, it's in my friend's studio.' We went there and I said "On Iggy's behalf, we'd like to take it back." The studio guy said "Here, take it." So I took it to Iggy and he went "What am I gonna do with it?" So I said "Then give it to me." I took it to Westlake in L.A., and we had to bring in another 2-inch, 16 track machine which took a while to track down. Then we made a super-high analog copy as well as two digital copies. We made some rough mixes off the dupe masters and vaulted all of it. Luckily the master is still in good shape, but thankfully it's analog and digitally backed up and in storage. I said "Iggy, never give this back to Sony. It got ripped off and they didn't even know or bother to find out or tell you--screw 'em. It's yours." He said "Well, you take it." I said "Even better." I have this closet with an air filtration system so that everything in there is dry, cool, and clean."
This also supports the theory that Bowie was never given the proper multi-tracks when he met Iggy over in LA. to do the infamous LP mix. Because the multis - according to this story - never left England.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:28 (six months ago) link
i need somebody was robbed in this poll!
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:00 (six months ago) link
Get all your Christmas records for the whole family at Woolworth in 1985 pic.twitter.com/Je7oqrdAW5— UKADS (@ukads3) December 22, 2023
― mookieproof, Sunday, 24 December 2023 15:56 (four months ago) link
Excellent.
― Nine Inch Males (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 16:04 (four months ago) link
Hah! At first I thought Gene Siskel gave it a thumbs down.
― The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 December 2023 16:20 (four months ago) link
Hahaha nice! I posted this before on another thread, but it's worth repeating that the Weasel Walter 2020 mix of "Search and Destroy" is without a doubt the best mix, no contest, not even close.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aagvwJTNeSYThe guitar leads blend in more naturally (don't sound as "punched in"), the drums and bass are higher in the mix where they belong, the vocals are pulled back, etc.I believe that flange effect happening at 0:38 was unintentional, but it actually works!!
― ernestp, Sunday, 24 December 2023 16:58 (four months ago) link
The director or someone involved in the ad must’ve been a fan, as I don’t ever remember seeing anything as outré as ‘Raw Power’ in Woolies.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 24 December 2023 17:00 (four months ago) link
Bought my first Fall album at Woolworth, Bend Sinister on sale for £2.99.
― visiting, Sunday, 24 December 2023 21:17 (four months ago) link
FWIW, the first time my partner ever saw me was in a picture of me holding this album. Amusingly, when we started cohabiting and I finally played the album for enjoyment, it didn't go over well at all as it set off my partner's anxiety issues. (To this day, I have to play it in a separate room with the door closed.)
― birdistheword, Sunday, 24 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link
i bought an Einsturzende Neubauten album in Woolies so not outwith the realms of possibility they might have stocked Raw Power.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 24 December 2023 23:41 (four months ago) link