Cold, cold industrial music

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Maybe someone who knows more about Industrial dance music can tell me how the distinction is made from within the scene, but I've noticed that early Industrial sounds more like Electro (or Electroclash) than the later, sample-triggered, noisier stuff.

For example, Chris and Cosey, Front 242's Geography album, "Metal Field" by SPK all has that clean, cold, metallic sound. Does this subgenre have a name? Where is the line between this and, say, Kraftwerk, or Monoton? What would be other acts/albums/tracks that would fall into this era and style?

3×5, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

i guess the line can be drawn by the technology of the time. after around '83 - 84, most industrial starts to sound a bit more clunky and that stuff tends to have aged far worse than the earlier stuff made on more primitive machines.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

as for distinctions, about 95% of what gets called industrial i would never tag with that genre name. our european cousins tend to call a lot of the earlier stuff "wave" which is a term i am increasingly growing to like.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard coldwave used for this, tends to imply smaller artier no name bands though.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

cold wave tends to imply bands with a joy division fetish.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5VlRkoPUQ

Are we talking about stuff like this?

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

which is sometimes called minimal synth, synthwave, wave, electrobeat or just synth.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4

I'll bow to your expertise then, maybe its slightly different on either side of the Atlantic.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

at the time, here in the uk it was pretty much all called industrial or even maybe synth pop, but it was our european cousins who had more nuanced and varied names for it. minimal synth is of course a very recent term for it, coined on the other side of the atlantic. but, i like that there is no correct / definitive term so call it whatever you like.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAOlaITnWk

Any excuse to listen to this one again, I suppose. Is DAF too warm for this?

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with stirmonster, that the earlier, colder stuff sounds more timeless, and the later stuff sounds dated, like Anne Dudley, or Herbie Hancock's 'Rockit'.

Josiah Alan, you're close but not quite there. The stuff I'm thinking of is cleaner, colder -- like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAHVDhbNDWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN1wtz6bXMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoe6Jg_EbK8

3×5, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1tgI5QS6s

?

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

wierd thread. Feels like 2008

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

Wired thread. feels like 1998

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

wyrd thread. feels like 1978

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehOKE4vNGE

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

youtube thread of synthpop/minimal synth/dark wave classics

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

There were two types of dance music in the 80s, rap and everything else.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

I have recently come to the conclusion that Robt Rental was some kinda wizard.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

he was. i think i get more obsessed with him and his music as the years go by although it saddens me there is so little of it.

here's a really good piece on mr. rental (and mr. leer).

http://keithsneuroblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/revox-xerox-redux-thomas-leer-robert.html

stirmonster, Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link

Thanx S(t)ir!

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

That Private Plane record is amazing. I feel like we're talking about two separate things here, though. I would consider that song lo-fi, and maybe in the same vein as Suicide --- whereas that Chris Carter industrial sound is very hi-fi. Maybe it's hi-fi minimal industrial dance music.

Since we've gone in that direction, though, here's a great track in that lo-fi minimal style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB2E_4F8D0U

3×5, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

Private Plane is so sublime.

crüt, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i didn't necessarily think "private plane" fitted with the thread but i just wanted to post it because it's such an amazing song and, well any excuse....

...and now i have an excuse to post another of the greatest songs of that era that is actually, warm, warm music to melt yr heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjAFuyApRzU

stirmonster, Saturday, 1 December 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

Not available in my country.

3×5, Sunday, 2 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

does beatless stuff like Lustmord or the Harry Bertoia albums, of NWW's Soliloquy For Lilith fit in here? Doesn't seem like that's what you had in mind but that is what I think of when I think of "cold industrial". also some Hafler Trio material like on Kill The King, and Coil's How To Destroy Angels.

sleeve, Sunday, 2 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, I'll have to check it out. As far as beatlessness goes, Monoton's Motionprodukt 07 definitely has that cold, hi-fi minimal sound. I also wonder if Cabaret Voltaire has anything like this. So far the closest I've found is "Walls Of Jericho".

3×5, Sunday, 2 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

you know Coil's "The Snow" EP, yeah? definitely check that out.

also, in my last post that should read "OR NWW's Soliloquy For Lilith", not "of".

sleeve, Sunday, 2 December 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeh Cabaret Voltaire is a good shout, try this one for iciness - must have been a huge influence on early Front 242?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN9Xobte0xQ

ばか ざっぴ (zappi), Sunday, 2 December 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

Minimal Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDR1sfieuZg

crüt, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

I finally got some Leather Nun tracks. I had a friend a long time ago who repped them. What should I start with if I have money to spend on used or import CDs? Or are they too funny and not "cold" enough. I think the name is cold enough!

Here's what I'm talking about when I say 'cold' industrial music: OK so 70s recordings have a specific sound to them. It's often a 'dry' (not that reverby) and warm sound, where analog compressors and magnetic tape saturation brought out the warm harmonics of the music, and enhanced the sound in a way similar to plugging an electric guitar into an amp.

Around 1980, recording equipment started switching over to solid state, producing a more crisp, more naked sound. Instead of using things like spring reverbs (Which you can hear in that Cabaret Voltaire record "Seconds Too Late" -- it's that drippy reverb'), people started using digital reverb, and you started getting these big, splashy reverb sounds. Also, FM synthesizers came on the scene, which were much tinnier than previous synths.

A lot of people dislike the shift in recording style in the 80s, and I tend to prefer a 70s sound, for most music. However, I think a number of these industrial acts took these sounds and intentionally pushed them to their timbral extreme, focusing on the cold, chromatic harmonics brought out by the technology. Lots of metallic sounds, and actual banging metal (like SPK's 'Metal Field') accompanied harsh drum machines and boxy reverb (like you were inside a dumpster).

I hope that makes sense. metallic verb, low noise floor et cetera. Oh, also, the EQ range is now broader, so while a 70s record might sound like the tops are rolled off the treble, these records have full, high-frequency treble.

3×5, Sunday, 2 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

good post, 3x5

mayor mcpotle (mh), Sunday, 2 December 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Been loving this sort of thing recently, what with it being winter. Tropic of Cancer are worth checking out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1iaB3778s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8rXJtSohiM

paolo, Sunday, 2 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

That Tropic of Cancer / HTRK split EP is ok, kind of was expecting more. I've been listening to the first HTRK album a fair bit.

mayor mcpotle (mh), Sunday, 2 December 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Check out these mixes from Regis and The Black Dog. They're awesome

High Rise Living 78-86 part 1 - http://mnmlssg.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/ssg-special-high-rise-living-78-86-part.html

1. Depeche Mode - Oberkorn
2. Xerox Girls - Erase Me
3. Human League - The Dignity Of Labour: Part 1
4. Soft Cell - Metro Mr. X
5. Naked Lunch - Slipping Again
6. Robert Rental & Thomas Leer - Day Breaks, Night Heals
7. Clock Dva - 4 Hours
8. Blancmange - Running Thin
9. Patrik Fitzgerald - One Little Soldier
10. They Must Be Russians - Nagasaki's Children
11. Chris & Cosey - Walking Through Heaven
12. Hula - Poison
13. Portion Control - Havoc Man
14. New Order - Temptation Of Evil Dust
15. Nitzer Ebb - Warsaw Ghetto
16. Final Program - Protect & Survive
17. The The - Cold Spell Ahead
18. Cabaret Voltaire - Why Kill Time (When You Can Kill Yourself)
19. Vice Versa - Stilyagi
20. Duet Emmo - Heart Of Hearts (Or So It Seems)

We Confess 1977-84 - http://mnmlssg.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/ssg-special-we-confess-1977-1984.html

Virgin Prunes - Sweethome Under White Clouds - 1982
Associates - White Car In Germany - 1981
Human League - Marianne - 1980
Alex Fergusson ( featuring Daniel Miller ) - Stay With Me Tonight - 1980
Dave Ball - Sincerity - 1983
Crawling Chaos - Sex Machine - 1980
Ultravox - Hiroshima Mon Amour - 1977
Thoma Leer - Private Plane - 1978
The Wolfgang Press - Prostitute - 1983
Dorothy - I Confess - 1980
Fad Gadget - Coitus Interruptus - 1981
B Movie - Remembrance Day - 1981
Vision - Lucifer's Friend - 1982
The Chameleons - Don't Fall - 1983
Felt - My Face Is On Fire - 1982
UK Decay - Disco Romance - 1980
Sex Gang Children - Into The Abyss - 1982
1919 - The Scream - 1983
Play Dead - Walk Away - 1984
Josef K - Sorry For Laughing - 1981
Test Dept. - Pulsations 2 -1983
Crispy Ambulance - Drug User Drug Pusher - 1983
Honey Bane - Boring Conversations - 1979
Adam and The Ants - The Day I Met God - 1979
Rudimentary Peni - Dead - 1981
Zounds - Demystification - 1981
Poison Girls - Persons Unknown - 1980
David J & Rene Halkett - Nothing - 1981

paolo, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

wow, those ARE great!

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

TRST by Trust is from 2012 but it wouldn't be out of place alongside these bands.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

So can anyone recommend any good mixes of this sort of thing?

paolo, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Also I got Geography by Front 242 and it is superb

paolo, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auO-HpRw_aI

Seems to be quite a demand for reissues of this sort of thing over the last few years

paolo, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link

that deux album is p good

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6krtohw-WqU

paolo, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

if anyone has those Black Dog mixes listed above, the original links are dead and I would love a copy, my ILXmail works...

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

sweet, thanks

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

That Liaisons Dangereuses album has been reissued

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_sAH2QGotE

paolo, Saturday, 17 January 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFTLFhT4uYo

I read that the term 'coldwave' was first used to describe Siouxie and the Banshees

paolo, Saturday, 25 April 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Don't know how "cold" this is but this thread seems like a nice place to tout this press release I just received...

DAIS RECORDS TO RE-ISSUE U.S. INDUSTRIAL CLASSIC:
HUNTING LODGE - WILL
LP OUT MAY 26TH
FULLY RE-MASTERED TO IT'S ORIGINAL SONIC STANDARDS

During some brief encounters in 1981 behind the counter at Full Moon Records in Port Huron, Michigan, record store clerk (and member of local “industrial” band Hate/Grey) Lon Diehl started receiving tapes of self-made amp-noise, feedback and field recordings adorned with disturbing medical images entitled “Screw Machine” from regular customer Richard Skott. Instantly, Diehl and Skott struck up a friendship over their appreciation of Throbbing Gristle, SPK and Dome. During this time, Diehl was producing the music fanzine “Smarm”, but due to the sudden change of artistic direction and collaboration, both Diehl and Skott started a new imprint which would become the legendary S/M Operations, home to their new experimental/ industrial project Hunting Lodge.

Hunting Lodge’s initial foray into musical performance during the Summer of 1982 involved both members to enlist the assistance of Karl Nordstrom, while Nordstrom’s brother Thomas aided the band in their visual art realizations. Soon after, Hunting Lodge played their first show on September 9, 1982 at the now infamous Harrington Ballroom in Port Huron which was released as a private edition cassette that same year. After this performance, Hunting Lodge recorded their much-coveted 23 Minutes of Murder cassette, though soon thereafter Karl Nordstrom left the band, leaving the line up to consist of the original core two members.

Upon the request of Andreas Muller of the German label Datenverarbeitung to record extra material for the Exhumed cassette, Hunting Lodge started to regularly record material and in the coming months would pull together tracks that would become their first full-length album entitled Will. Drawing references from Crowley, Nietzsche and G. Gordon Liddy, Hunting Lodge collaged together industrial percussion patterns, live recordings, early sketches and synthesized noise into nine compositions which also included vocal appearances by Andreas Muller, Francisco Lopez and Masami Akita a.k.a. Merzbow. The final product would serve as a blueprint for later generations of industrial noise music and plant the influential seed for the years later Michigan noise output.

Dais Records is proud to release the official vinyl reissue of Hunting Lodge - Will. Fully remastered to its original sonic standards by Michael Rozon.

PRE-ORDER: Hunting Lodge - Will
http://shop.daisrecords.com/collections/frontpage/products/hunting-lodge-will-lp

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 9 May 2015 11:06 (eight years ago) link

I wish they'd do a CD reissue. On Amazon the CD is going for $45.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 9 May 2015 11:12 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKNwrRmNiQ

This is a cover of a John Bender song from that So Low compilation. I believe that Kubler-Ross is also Sparky, Glasgow techno don

paolo, Friday, 15 April 2016 11:44 (eight years ago) link

yup, same artist. hopefully there will be a kubler-ross release of original music this year. he's also started doing it live as a three piece - synths, drums, vocals.

stirmonster, Friday, 15 April 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Simon Reynolds reviews a forthcoming compilation of UK experimental electronic music from the seventies and eighties. Looks good

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21653-close-to-the-noise-floor-formative-uk-electronica-1975-1984/

paolo, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

DISC ONE:
1. FIVE TIMES OF DUST – Computer Bank
2. THE KLINGONS – R.A.M.
3. CHRIS AND COSEY – Re-Education Through Labour
4. MALCOLM BROWN – Sedation Strokes
5. STORM BUGS – Little Bob Minor
6. THOMAS LEER – Tight As A Drum
7. BLANCMANGE – Holiday Camp
8. INNER CITY STATIC – Fractured Smile
9. WE BE ECHO – Sexuality
10. BOURBONESE QUALK – God With Us
11. NAGAMATZU Faith
12. O YUKI CONJUGATE – Disco Song
13. BRITISH ELECTRIC FOUNDATION – Optimum Chant
14. KEVIN HARRISON – All Night Long
15. VOICE OF AUTHORITY – Stopping And Starting

DISC TWO:
1. COLIN POTTER – I Am Your Shadow
2. BRITISH STANDARD UNIT – D’Ya Think I’m Sexy?
3. FIVE TIMES OF DUST – The Single Off The Album
4. SPÖÖN FAZER – Back To The Beginning
5. GERRY AND THE HOLOGRAMS – Gerry And The Holograms
6. THE PASSAGE – Drugface
7. JOHN FOXX – A New Kind Of Man
8. 100% MANMADE FIBRE – Green For Go
9. THOSE LITTLE ALIENS – Sentimental
10. FINAL PROGRAM – Protect And Survive
11. THE HUMAN LEAGUE – Being Boiled
12. INSTANT AUTOMATONS – New Muzak
13. CULTURAL AMNESIA – Materialistic Man
14. WORLDBACKWARDS – (Leaving Me) Now
15. ALAN BURNHAM – Music To Save The World By
16. ORCHESTRAL MANOEUVRES IN THE DARK – Almost
17. EYELESS IN GAZA – Kodak Ghosts Run Amok
18. SCHLEIMER K – Broken Vein
19. NATIVE EUROPE – The Distance From Köln

DISC THREE:
1. ZORCH – Adrenalin (Return of the Elohim Pt 1)
2. SEA OF WIRES – Robot Dance
3. RON BERRY – Sea Of Tranquility
4. MFH – Mistral
5. ADRIAN SMITH – Joe Goes To New York
6. MARK SHREEVE – Embryo (Extract)
7. EG OBLIQUE GRAPH – Triptych
8. CARL MATTHEWS – Encounter
9. PAUL NAGLE – Ynys Scaith
10. O YUKI CONJUGATE – Sedation
11. KONSTRUKTIVIST – Western Vein
12. ATTRITION – Dead Of Night (Excerpt)

DISC FOUR:
1. THROBBING GRISTLE – What A Day
2. A TENT – No Way Of Knowing
3. PORTION CONTROL – Go For The Throat
4. DC3 – Eco Beat
5. RENALDO AND THE LOAF – Dying Inside
6. BLAH BLAH BLAH – In The Army
7. LEGENDARY PINK DOTS – God Speed
8. MUSLIMGAUZE – Muslin Gauze Muslim Prayer
9. SUISSE – Live At Longborne
10. ALIEN BRAINS – Menial Disorders, Extract B2
11. STORM BUGS – Himeal (And She Blew)
12. THIRD DOOR FROM THE LEFT – In The Room
13. AL ROBERTSON – Dignity Of Labour
14. bcGilbert, gLewis, russell Mills – Mzui (Extract)

paolo, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

saw this a few days ago, trying to not impulse buy it

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

Gerry and the Holograms!!!

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I thought they were Japanese and not from the UK.

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

They're from Manchester. I think all the Absurd records were Manchester bands.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

so was it a UK person doing a Japanese accent then?

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

I don't remember it sounding japanese, just like a dalek or something. Been a while though!

dan selzer, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

there was the r/l thing going on in the vocals that I associate with Japanese English speech -- like it sounds like "Jelly and the ..." not "Jerry" ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

it was two members of Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias

stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

yay Hybrid Kids! Hopefully that's the single mix of "D’Ya Think I’m Sexy?"

Jeff W, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

cold, industrial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqajweKCWos

kills 1.8 percent of household germs (WilliamC), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

that comp sounds good

possibly not the coldest industrial-est track there but I only know Kevin Harrison's "Fly" single and am very keen to hear more (a quick Google says his 1981 LP was reissued too so I guess I should get on that)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

that comp looks awesome and except for like being boiled or whatever totally not your standard batch of tracks. i would buy it if i saw it. and it wasn't a zillion dollars.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

Kevin Harrison has tons of stuff going back to the quite fun band Urge and lots of cool stuff on Glass records now getting re-released via bandcamp Glass. History and samples here:

http://www.marzimprint.co.uk/

he's also on facebook of course.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

Hmm comp is on Cherry Red which probably means dubious sound quality and incorrect tracks but will also probably be cheap.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 07:42 (seven years ago) link

Thanks Dan! Will check out all the samples/bandcamps.

(Glass Records Redux sites for anyone else interested, seeing as it took me marginally more than the obvious 3 seconds of Googling: digital at https://glassredux.bandcamp.com/ and CDs at http://glassrecordsredux.bigcartel.com/)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

there was the r/l thing going on in the vocals that I associate with Japanese English speech -- like it sounds like "Jelly and the ..." not "Jerry" ...

this is def a thing with some British accents (see: Edward Ka-Spel); the vocal treatments probably help emphasize that effect too

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I relistened to that song (because it seemed really bizarre that someone could think they were doing Japanese accents) and yeah I think it's just a NW English accent, I think there's a more gritted teeth mouth position (NB not a linguist) to the R sound that's all.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 12:12 (seven years ago) link

Ol' Gerry's getting a whole lot of reissue treatment:

https://www.discogs.com/Various-So-Low-Remixes-/release/8318172 being a remix of the eponymous track..

https://www.discogs.com/Various-So-Low-/master/973389 A Different comp (the 7" version)

https://www.discogs.com/Gerry-And-The-Holograms-The-Emperors-New-Music/release/8407728 The other single..

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I relistened to that song (because it seemed really bizarre that someone could think they were doing Japanese accents) and yeah I think it's just a NW English accent, I think there's a more gritted teeth mouth position (NB not a linguist) to the R sound that's all.

― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, May 4, 2016 12:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Back whenever, I thought it sounded a bit like Genesis (Gabriel days), but then what do I know..?

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 12:15 (seven years ago) link

Really like this 2016 single, recommended for fans of Portishead's "Machine Gun":

These Hidden Hands feat. Lucrecia Dalt - These Moments Dismantled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOUHXVelok

Abandon hype all ye who enter here (Sanpaku), Saturday, 7 May 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Fantastic mix from Helena Hauff. HER VOICE IS EXACTLY LIKE I IMAGINED IT WOULD BE

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08gwqy7

1. Le Chocolat Noir - Voyage d'Esprit (CHARLOIS)
2. Ceci N'est Pas - The Last Time (ELECTRONIC EMEGENCIES)
3. Minny Pops - Time (FACTORY BENELUX)
4. Skanfrom - British Cottages (SUCTION RECORDS)
5. Hyperkut - Elevator Without Exit (AEROBIC AUDIO)
6. Pankow - Gimme More (Much More) (CONTEMPO RECORDS)
7. Zarkoff & Cyborgs on Crack - Penalty For Violation (RETURN TO DISORDER)
8. Amato - The Labyrinth (CITITRAX)
9. Silent Servant - Speed & Violence (CITITRAX)
10. Drinking Electricity - Breakout (SURVIVAL RECORDS)
11. GNR - Bar Da Morgue (VALENTIM DE CARVALHO)
12. Children Of Lier - Sirene (SIMULATIONS)
13. Chris Carter - Beat (MUTE)
14. Glamour Cult - Afterglow (TABLE THIRTY)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 March 2017 10:54 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpR-wY56I1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZlBKXi82Fs

Not sure where to put this, but there's been some good EBM/industrial revival lately.

jenkem street team (carpet_kaiser), Thursday, 6 July 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link

that last post with Helena Hauff’s mix tracklist reminds me: I ended up listening to a couple Cititrax compilation eps a while back and they were definitely my shit

mh, Thursday, 6 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

Loving this band rn, female vocals over unholy clanking beats

http://hide3.bandcamp.com/album/castration-anxiety

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 21 April 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link

A SOUND THAT BOTH PUNISHES AND EMPOWERS

bless

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 April 2018 05:21 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KU2v-Z1m4A

I can recommend the debut album from De Ambassade if you're in the mood for some minimal wave type music that sounds a lot like it was made in the Low Countries about 25 years ago. Just in time for winter too.

paolo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

yes, it is fab. 10/10

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

yep

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

I am always in that mood tbf

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

15. VOICE OF AUTHORITY – Stopping And Starting

give the VOA album back to adrian ya bastards so he can remaster it and make it sound the way it should !

(its one of my fave on-u albums, but cherry red have this and a few others when adrian needed ££ to keep things going)

mark e, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

xxxp I only heard about that because it was an Optimo album of the month at Monorail, so ta

paolo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

yr welcome.

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

I was a bit dismissive of that Close To The Noise Floor compilation on Cherry Red (based only on other Cherry Red reissues being a bit shoddy) upthread but it is actually great and I now own a copy, they also put out another 2, one with European bands and the other from North America - I haven't listened to the American one yet but the European one is good too

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trBkjswlCcs

The European one is worth the price for this early instrumental of Ruth's 'Polaroid/Roman/Photo' alone.

Anyone heard the American one?

paolo, Sunday, 24 November 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

De Ambassade

Ok this is great.

pomenitul, Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

Cherry Red's Electrical Language: Independent British Synth Pop 78-84 is worth a listen too. I'd say 50% of it makes me want to skip to the next track but the other 50% is gold.

it also made me fall in love with this all over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSAm2StYymQ

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

I listened to De Ambassade as a result of this thread. Really hitting the spot, in a way it reminds me of Studio. Not so much in the way it sounds, but in the way it could be a lost classic that should be more widely known.

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

Are the Europe/American ones also called "Close to the Noise Floor"? My search so far is just picking up the UK one.

The European one is worth the price for this early instrumental of Ruth's 'Polaroid/Roman/Photo' alone.

ooh, didn't know this existed, love Polaroïd/Roman/Photo but the voice is... an acquired taste

Meant to pick up the UK one, didn't get round to it, so thanks for the reminder to stick it on my xmas list if it's still available - haven't made it past the tracklisting for disc 1 yet and there's a lot of names I don't know (which is good!) but I think I'm up for anything with Kevin Harrison on, plus Blancmange and Bourbonese Qualk on the same CD...

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Euro comp is Noise Reduction Sysyem, US one is Third Noise Principle iirc

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

does anyone want a separate thread for new ebm/industrial-ish techno? do any other ilxors follow pinkman records? kris baha's album rules and i didn't post it anywhere last year because i'm lazy and there isn't really a good thread for it but more people should hear it. phase fatale's album just came out on ostgut ton and its hitting the spot hard

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 24 February 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

I would love to get more recommendations and have little to contribute

lukas, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah I would follow that thread for sure

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link

would follow. I’ve posted about similar things in that vein across a half dozen threads because I wasn’t sure a new thread would take off

mh, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

I love that stuff but have no way to know what's new and worthwhile. Every once in a while I remember to do an "ebm" search on Bandcamp and buy a few things, but a thread would be great.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

for your EBM and industrial techno needs

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 25 February 2020 03:28 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Soul Jazz have a new comp out next month that's looking good

'Soul Jazz Records new ‘Cold Wave’ is a new collection of current electronic artists who have all been shaped by the early European cold wave artists of the late 70s and early 80s.

This is the first release of Soul Jazz Records’ new Cold Wave overview and a second volume will be released just four weeks later.

This first edition of Cold Wave comes in two vinyl editions – a one-off pressing orange coloured vinyl edition and a black vinyl edition. Both come as heavyweight double vinyl housed in bespoke individual inner sleeves and the limited edition first pressing of this album comes with its own free pull-out fanzine on the groups featured. The CD edition comes with artist booklet/fanzine and slipcase. All editions are printed in special dayglo colour finish.

These first artists created new electronic musical landscapes as well as pursuing a stubborn D-I-Y aesthetic, often releasing material on cassette and pioneering use of lo-fi technology, primitive drum machines and home-recording techniques. As part of this continued evolution today many of the artists featured here also self-release their own material, run labels, publish fanzines, or are part of wider musical collectives.

Aside from the first electronic, no wave, and post-punk artists cited as influences –Suicide, Patrick Cowley, The Normal, Martin Hannett, Laurie Anderson, Public Image – this new generation of artists also show an exquisitely open source of electronic and disparate influences, everything from Underground Resistance to Purcell, from Scientist to New Beat and more besides.

Most of the featured artists are based in Europe and include Krikor, Dissemblance and VQOA from France, De Ambassade from the Netherlands, Moisture from Sweden, Kriedler from Germany, Céline Gillain and Carcass Identity from Belgium. One exception is FIT Siegel out of Detroit, connecting the electronic pathways of Europe to the Motor City.

All of the bands featured here make distinctive contemporary music out of the 80s roots of the first cold wave movement.'

https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/sjr/product/cold-wave

paolo, Saturday, 22 May 2021 08:42 (two years ago) link


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