MEEK MILL

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http://www.spin.com/articles/spin-40-best-hip-hop-albums-of-2012?slide=26

give the dude his own thread already

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

"intro" has evolved into my "gettin' pumped in the AM before work" jam

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

one of the Dreamchasers intro or the title track of Dreams & Nightmares? the latter is the most amazing song

some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link

the latter

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

seriously, that song will unscrew your beer cap while you watch in no-hands awe

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

yahhh, I'm not even that into Meek and I was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZK_3Bvpm8

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljDxv9esM4E

sisilafami, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

"dreams and nightmares" (the intro track) has been getting airplay here, can't find if it's a single tho, holy shit it's so good

ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

you mean on 92Q? yeah it's not really a single (although it has a video), i've asked around and it seems like no stations outside Baltimore are playing it in heavy rotation like they are here, even in Philly.

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

yeah I got D&N on release date and can't remember the last time an opening track knocked me on my ass like that one did.

especially when he gets to the beat change-up and "HOLD ON WAIT A MINUTE/Y'ALL THOUGHT I WAS FINISHED?" bit.

Neanderthal, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

actually might've been WKYS? wld be cool if it spread anyway. god gr8 song so glad someone thought meek mill leased a car

ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

where's dreamchasers 3 ?

sisilafami, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

ive heard D&N intro on the radio in new york

i expected 'levels' to do better than it has

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

the radio edit of "levels" is kinda wack

i thought that was gonna be a breakthrough track for him tho, it seemed huge right when it dropped but maybe overshadowed by kanye and jay by now

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 July 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

when songs are 'singles' off mixtapes i can never really tell what the expectations even are, obviously if it was a huge hit they'd be happy and run with it, but it seemed to me more like a kind of 'this song is dope, and we can just drop it without worrying about a drake verse or something to get us a release date.' like "Lean Wit It" was for Dreamchasers 2.

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

i think it's that the concept of the song feels like something that should be a hit

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

haha i never saw the video, lol diddy dancing on the runway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcyfwaXO7Eo

some dude, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

i think it's that the concept of the song feels like something that should be a hit

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, July 8, 2013 7:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah it seemed viral for a min there

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

how am i just hearing "levels"

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand just like that, i'm back in the MILL zone. this should be a lead album single (in my world)

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Does it seem like Dreams and Nightmares Intro is just now hitting critical mass for whatever reason? I saw people go nuts over it at the club the other week, then heard a whole bunch of frat boys play it at inappropriate volumes at a tailgate before a Brewers game, where it's not Ryan Braun's walk-up music, and then this week Drake randomly tweeted about it ("one of the best rap moments of our generation")

Evan R, Friday, 2 May 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

hard for me to say, it's been consistently big in Baltimore since it was released. they had it in heavy rotation on the local radio station, like every hour all day, for a good chunk of last year.

some dude, Friday, 2 May 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

i would say "probably not" but it does have a weird/interesting life

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 May 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah it's been basically a huge moment since it dropped. sustained unexpectedly

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 2 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Enjoying the hell out of the new LP on first listen. Already seems much better than Dreams & Nightmares.

Bummed "B-Boy" and "Monster" aren't on this, though; both of those singles kicked.

Evan R, Monday, 29 June 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

Interesting use of features on this album. Almost everyone feels like a real collaboration, where the guest is integral to the track and its character.

Evan R, Monday, 29 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

got about 2/3 through, skipped the chris brown feature because lol no, stopped as soon as the weeknd came on

i liked most of it and will go through it all eventually but will someone please tell meek how bad he is at rap&B/crossover-type tracks, like he really sucks at them and keeps doing them...this failing is at least halfway contingent on the terrible people usually supplying the hooks in these situations but still

slothroprhymes, Monday, 29 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

I hate the Chris Brown track, but it doesn't fuck up the album the way I feared. It slows in pretty cleanly, somehow. The Weeknd track is Weeknd-y, but I don't hate it, which is more than I can say for pm any other Weeknd track from the last two years.

Evan R, Monday, 29 June 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

He's a Rick Ross protege and he's got Diddy on the album and he's dating Nicki Minaj... rap&B crossover is in his blood. It's not his best look, but I prefer it to the J. Cole piano rap of his last record

Evan R, Monday, 29 June 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

i mean i understand the commercial realities of those tracks needing to be on there...sort of? i suppose its unfair to want every song to be dreams & nightmares intro or tony story or even levels (a pop look that's good for him)

slothroprhymes, Monday, 29 June 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

<i>i suppose its unfair to want every song to be dreams & nightmares intro</i>

not fair but i feel this. haven't heard the album just yet

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 29 June 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

wrote something about it:
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/meek-mill-dreams-worth-more-than-money-review-essay

some dude, Monday, 29 June 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

in case you don't fuck with spotify (like me) but wanna try before you buy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a70xVcl-Kc

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

I loathe Spotify and I hope Apple Music is great so I never have to use it again

Evan R, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

*loved* 'monster' but this album is not sounding v good to me

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

i don't think this album has an 'amen' on it but it sounds 'solid' to me idk

, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

I would say that the first album had higher highs but this has a more consistent...flow, or something

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

vmic but i like the metro boomin trax the most
also dont mind the cbrown 1 but generally agree, rnb tempo stuff is not what i want from him

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I think the album is pretty solid

supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link

yeah it sounds solid on one listem, better than dreams & nightmares, but i feel like he should have more than that in him

al otm about how he and nicki are so in love that they can make boring music together

lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link

The highlights on Dreams & Nightmares >>>> the highlights on this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

You mean "highlight"

supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

"believe it" on dreams & nightmares is a really underrated track imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

not as good as this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc_vUevdZ0k

supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Dreams And Nightmares has joints, it just excelled more at the slow moody stuff than what people wanted from him. "Who You're Around" is like the only essential Mary J. rap album collab of the last 10 years, "Traumatized" is great, Meek's "Maybach Curtains" verse is like a thesis for the whole album buried in an otherwise terrible song.

some dude, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20778-dreams-worth-more-than-money/

i thought this was a really well done review (think the author reads ilm but i don't know who he posts as?)

j., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

everyone home for the summer
so let's not do nothin illegal

j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:49 (eight years ago) link

I like most of this but man is it exhausting. I appreciate how it builds to Diddy's sour monologue, which sounds like he waited his whole career to deliver.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

I like this album, but I do wish he'd worked "Monster" and "B Boy" into the tracklist. It could use a few more peaks.

Evan R, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Neither of his albums are quite as much fun as they should be

Evan R, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

yeah i'd add "fuck you mean" to the list of buzz singles that are better than half the album and otm about fun

random forgotten singles and freestyles being better than your official albums, wonder who that reminds me of

lex pretend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

yeah "Monster" and "B Boy" would easily be the fastest songs on the album if they were on it, really would've helped the range of the record. the former was just starting to build momentum on the radio before it not being on the album and the Nicki single dropping kinda killed it.

"Fuck You Mean" was produced by a Baltimore dude I know (J. Oliver, who also did stuff on Dreamchasers 3), great track, unfortunately came out so long ago that i'm sure it wasn't even considered for the album.

some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

'off the corner' was great as well

supreme problematics (D-40), Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link


Neither of his albums are quite as much fun as they should be

― Evan R, Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

The Reverend, Friday, 10 July 2015 03:18 (eight years ago) link

The problem with both records is that Meek only really works in two registers - eye-popping intensity and even-more-eye-popping intensity, and whenever he tries to move into a different gear, like the R&Bish tracks here, he can't really simmer down appropriately.

Still wish there was an Amen on this, or even two or three of them - if he's going to make pop songs that's a much better look for him.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2015 07:53 (eight years ago) link

The problem is that Meek's idea of settling down is to hire The Weeknd as guest.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 July 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link

The Weeknd song is pretty good!

some dude, Friday, 10 July 2015 11:52 (eight years ago) link

i really dig the chris brown track, call me crazy but it reminds me & compares m/l favorably to the cbrown lttp tracks :o

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 July 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

also, *prayer emoji* that on the drake rico track they didnt make some lame racket/racks/tennis pun

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 July 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

http://www.vulture.com/2015/07/meek-mill-drake-twitter-rant.html

this new suddenly concocted meek-drake beef thing is hysterical

i don't necessarily believe meek given the explanation for why he seems to be mad at drake but then again wouldn't be shocked - like, oh wow, you've really blown the lid off the hideous scandal of people using ghostwriters as if that's not a thing that's ever happened

Specifically, Meek (who captions his Instagrams with Drake lyrics) claims Drake doesn't write his own raps; he has a ghostwriter, possibly one Quentin Miller (a composer from Atlanta, credited on Drake's latest release). His complaint ultimately seems to stem — at least in part — from the fact that Drake's not tweeting or supporting Meek's new album, specifically the collab on "R.I.C.O."

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Meek (who captions his Instagrams with Drake lyrics)
Meek (who captions his Instagrams with Drake lyrics)
Meek (who captions his Instagrams with Drake lyrics)
Meek (who captions his Instagrams with Drake lyrics)

hahaha

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

"The Sixers and Mill, the 28-year old Philadelphia-born performer who has recorded several top five Billboard hits, invited a group of 30 children to the team’s training facility at the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, where a seminar was held in recognition of National Mentoring Month."

can anyone name those hits off the top of their head?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:36 (eight years ago) link

i can name them all, but i'm a guy looking at a music message board who clicked on a thread named after him

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link

prove it

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

Turns out he had a number one album! Good for him.

albvivertine, Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

"All Eyes On You," "Amen," and "Bag Of Money" are the only ones that were top 5 on any Billboard charts (rap charts, not the Hot 100 or anything). "I'm A Boss," "Dreams & Nightmares," "Monster," and "Levels" are some other ones that would be considered his most popular songs that he'd probably perform. what's your point in all of this?

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link

i mean thanks, but i meant prove "i'm a guy looking at a music message board who clicked on a thread named after him"

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

the only part of that that isn't proven by the existence of the post itself is "i'm a guy," you want me to whip it out?

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

lol no but that will suffice

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:14 (eight years ago) link

Good conversation

Kind of a bummer how this Drake nonsense seems to have permanently detailed his career

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link

i don't think that he's Lil Flip yet, he's still got the opportunity to do something interesting with this moment. i really liked the 4 songs he released from Dreamchasers 4 last week, although i really wish he'd just drop the tape already. going back to jail would definitely make it harder to recover any momentum, though.

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

omg

http://meekymill.com

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 10:48 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

seems solid

j., Friday, 28 July 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link

yeah I think this might be his best album as a whole

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 28 July 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

the way he raps gets tiresome over a full length. But there are some individually great songs on here for sure. kind of in love w the 'These Scars' beat. kinda weird to hear him do the dej loaf 'try me' flow on 'fall thru', i think i like it.

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

crazy how a terius feature is such a downer now. chris brown feature on here too....

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

I should check it out, maybe today.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.thefader.com/2017/08/18/meek-mill-arrested-in-new-york

congrats to meek for being the first ever dangerous biker to get stopped by the police in new york city

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 August 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

BREAKING NOW: Philadelphia rapper Meek Mill being released from prison shortly after PA Supreme Court ruling. Live coverage here and on NBC10 now: https://t.co/UZiivrmEe6 #FreeMeekMill

— NBC10 Philadelphia (@NBCPhiladelphia) April 24, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

i bet he makes an appearance at the 76ers game tonight with AI and K Hart.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

🏆 CHAMPIONSHIPS - 11/30 🏆 pic.twitter.com/C1g8Mgivn8

— Meek Mill (@MeekMill) November 16, 2018

j., Saturday, 17 November 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

it's sad that I'll never listen to track 9 but otherwise this is sounding great so far

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 30 November 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

lol the drake track on his older album was alright actually

j., Friday, 30 November 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

it's not a reflection of quality, just can't violate my policy

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

first time i've been excited to hear jay rap in like forever

j., Friday, 30 November 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

'who the fuck gon babysit?'

j., Friday, 30 November 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

the Rick Ross f-bomb (which passed me by before) is such an unnecessary blemish on a track where even Jay sounds good for a few bars

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 2 December 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

yeah, sigh

luckily there's lots of advanced thinking about women as romantic partners all over the rest of the record to preoccupy oneself with

j., Monday, 3 December 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

He actually sounds great on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1TpSDdza-g

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link


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