i think this might be where whiney turns a corner on lol altered bonerz tri△ngle r△p slash hypnogogic hipstamatic r&b slash SKREETS IS WATCHING SALEM LIVE AT GL△SSL△NDS interloper how to stress well /// ayo hauntology /// music
cause dude can actually sing
peace out
― so far, so good... solange! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
r△p g△me usic
― so far, so good... solange! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
The guy has done some good stuff: Counting, Sweetheart, that Vaporware thing with Bee Mask, there was one track off the s/t album I particularly liked but I can't remember which it was. Still feel he needs to level up and rebalance the style/substance ratio.
― Vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Is the guy with counterpart EP to No Love Deep Webb?
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
mexican waterloo
― gray star, a settlement in the remotest northwest (Lamp), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Think this was my favourite song on the album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnvwHkrFdz8
His style hasn't changed much since then, but "Counting" is def the best thing he's done imo.
― Vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
"Counting" bowled me over yesterday.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
first album was good, "counting" his best tune yet. really high hopes for this.
― monotony, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
Debut album is my favorite album of the decade so far. Was completely won over from the acapella break in Tell Me. Two Days of Rain, Drama Cum Drama, OMG, Demoneyez, pop masterpiece after pop masterpiece. The EP was fine as well, really looking forward to the new album. The dude can SING, and yet he's not afraid to obscure his voice with filters and effects when it works (like in that video above from 3:20-3:25. LOVE that detail)
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFiupWwIZMY
...And here we have "Play by Play."
It'll take some time to digest, but right now it's hard to tell if this beats "Counting."
It doesn't have the complexity, but the second half of the song really brings home the euphoria.
― InteractiveBread, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
this thread has probably the worst opening post in ilm history
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
After the first listen, I want so bad to shout along to that chorus with a room full of strangerS.
.......PLAY BY PLAY BY PLAY, DON'T EVER LEAVE ME ALONE!.......PLAY BY PLAY BY PLAY, DON'T EVER LEAVE ME ALONE!.......PLAY BY PLAY BY PLAY, DON'T EVER LEAVE ME ALONE!.......PLAY BY PLAY BY PLAY, DON'T EVER LEAVE ME ALONE!
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Here's hoping that other people at his live shows feel the same way.
― InteractiveBread, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't have Counting's instant impact but time will tell I guess.
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
Play by play and counting are track 1 and 2 on the new record. I think we've found the 1-2 punch of the year already.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, both tracks are killer imo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
i like both tracks a lot but they're a little messy. the mykki blanco verse on "counting" is so unnecessary. this one has... like... too much going on.
there are some moments where it hints at a really great epic ballad type song. there's this fantastic buildup around the 2 minute mark that makes me think of the huge moments leading up the "climax" bridge. but then it just gets muddled. i would have liked for the chorus to be more, like, triumphant.
i would actually say that this song is more ~~complex~~ than "counting", but that's not necessarily a good thing. i like the pop appeal of counting. "play by play" tries for too much imo
― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
seriously this new song
the first half seems frantic, as if he's standing over a cauldron throwing ingredients in it almost at random, and then suddenly by 2:40 or whatever he's created a concoction of wondrous ecstacy
― monotony, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
"I just call you up to get that play by play, by play, by play..." has evicted random Ima Read lyrics as the lines that swirl around in my head every morning..."Play By Play" has definitely grown on my but I think it starts to drag after three minutes or so when it goes into the extended "play by play..." part.
― questino (seandalai), Friday, 1 February 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
I think it starts to drag after three minutes or so when it goes into the extended "play by play..." part.
nooooo this is the best bit! it's like turning a corner into a vast amazing expanse after navigating the choppiness of the first few minutes. a rewarding climax
― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
Dunno, I think his strength lies in the smoke and mirrors stuff - the build from around 2:00 to 3:00 is my favourite minute of music so far this year. But after the big reveal/release he goes all in on one single big pop move and I don't think the hook is strong enough to bear two minutes of repetition.
― questino (seandalai), Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think the hook is strong enough to bear two minutes of repetition.
I've only played it a couple times to date, but the repeating hook worked like a charm for me. Get back to me after I've heard it another 10 or 20 times.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
fair enough, you guys win :-)
― questino (seandalai), Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
i like both tracks a lot but they're a little messy. the mykki blanco verse on "counting" is so unnecessary
Agreed. The album uses the version without her, iirc.
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, 2 February 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
this is the shit
― flopson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
i'm having trouble really getting into this... idk it doesn't feel "earned" to me
that could be BS tho, admittedly
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
not feeling "counting" as much but "play by play" hook is classic
― flopson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:04 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like "how to stress well"
― Tim F, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
Leaked. Album is giving me warm fuzzies.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 10 February 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
been listening to this on and off all day, im diggin it a lot
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 February 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
a bunch of really good sounds on this record but it seems like a bit of a mess overall - like there's too much going on and his solution to stuff not quite working is to pile more stuff in
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 11:06 (eleven years ago) link
some of the songs are soooooo aimless as well
what is this "world war" shit
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
Well 'too much going on' is one of the defining characteristics of autre ne veut, and definitely one of the things I love most about him. As is messiness, soundwise, emotionally, etc. If anything, there is too little going on on a few of the tracks, imo. But it's great, all in all.
― Frederik B, Monday, 11 February 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure if I have a very technical explanation for myself, but I don't think he's a very good singer. The comparisons I saw on the track review on Pitchfork to Usher and Prince seemed wild and outlandish to me. I think that Tom Krell from How to dress well sings circles around him, and that guy's certainly no Prince. The production is certainly more witch housey and interesting than the Body EP's, but his singing is very distracting for me.
― BMICHAEL, Monday, 11 February 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
I really like how he uses his voice on a track like Gonna Die. The distorted backing voices and the reverb, the way voices cut in and out, his crazy falsetto in the end.
But nothing is as great as Play by Play.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
too bad about this guy putting his two bangers 1-2
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think "bangers" is the word you meant
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
well i don't even think those songs are all that but they definitely tower over the rest of the album
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I probably concur but they're still not BANGERS
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
the chorus of 'Play By Play' bangs
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
def
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
this stuff u_u
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
does this really matter in 2013?
― queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
It does if you were expecting more songs rivaling the first two in greatness. It's a good album, but those two songs are clearly the high points.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
― queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:02 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
i dunno. it matters in any year where you're listening to an album front to back.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, it matters to me, but i'm old.
trying to figure out why this record feels sort of oppressive and busy even in moments of relative sparseness...i think it's the way he sings + aggressive mastering.
― queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah otm about the mastering
he can sing but it's pretty one-dimensional, kinda like the stereotype of what ~the emotional r&b voice~ is applied to every line of every song
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really like the concept of moments being "earned" but there's something about the structure of "play by play" that bothers me. the main hook that he repeats for 3 minutes is pretty great but it just feels like he blasts there really early without trying to properly build to it. for a track that's supposed to hit like i assume he wants it to, it feels very pro-forma.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
the main hook that he repeats for 3 minutes is pretty great but it just feels like he blasts there really early without trying to properly build to it
^also a very 2013 mentality?
― queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
it's sort of like he knew the answers to the test but didn't show his work
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
Haha great analogy
― Tim F, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
omg this guy is so super terrible i can't believe it. its a fucking episode of glee. his music should be banned immediately.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
glee comparison = he harmonizes?
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
yes sufjan
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
"ego free/sex free" is great. "play by play" is much better live.
i wonder if some people are reacting against the production occupying a middle ground between more witchy stuff and actual radio gloss, without slotting comfortably into either.
― unknown pleasure zone (uptown churl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
This should have been an EP, or better sequenced. By the end of the 4th song I was exhausted already and went back to Devotion.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
coming around to this a bit
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
"ego free sex free" is the jam
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 March 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
been really into 'promises'
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 March 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
i'm gonna lose my hearing playing this song
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 March 2013 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ the nsfw background of the youtube for ego free sex free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjUQyU3esHI
― flopson, Sunday, 3 March 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, ego free sex free has been my jam from this all week.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 3 March 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i've basically come around to this after being lukewarm to it at first and loving the album a lot
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 4 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
such a busy sound to this record, like Glass Swords with melisma
― anonanon, Monday, 4 March 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
HE'S PLAYING IN COPENHAGEN ON 4/23, AND I'LL BE THERE!!!! HELL YEAH!!!
I'm excited. God, I can't wait to shout along to Play by Play.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think this is pretty good! i do wish it was a little less busy and more patiently/normally structured. but that's what i thought about ford & lopatin's "channel pressure" at first and i ended up loving the shit out of that
― goole, Friday, 15 March 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
i love the opening post too
― goole, Friday, 15 March 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
really like this
― max, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
welcome
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
first post of this thread only makes the vaguest amount of sense to me. is this witch house?
― max, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, only makes vague sense
― max, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
i think the main takeaway from first post is its released on sacred bones label whose logo is a triangle
― flopson, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ ayo hauntology
― flopson, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
right. we dont like triangles, because of salem, or tumblr, or whatever
― max, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
you should be more concerned if the first post of this thread makes complete and total sense to you.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― flopson, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://i46.tinypic.com/14udeeh.jpg
― markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
I like triangles, and this album.
― bananas are my preference (seandalai), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
i don't understand what this guy has to do with salem. reviving this thread to say that he is great. the best thing he's done is still the song sweetheart. i listened to that on repeat one day in fall 2011 while sitting in the public library because it made me feel like things were going to change; that i was on the precipice of a new beginning in my life. this turned out to not be true, but still, classic track: exhilarating, soulful, a unique twist on dreampop i think. the pulsing, swirling, synth background noise reminds me of my bloody valentine because it creates an effect that it manages to be expansive and claustrophobic at the same time. i want to sing along with it in the car but i can't, really.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Friday, 3 May 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
Can't stop going back to this album.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link
New album coming october. First song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzFnojEjjiU
― Frederik B, Monday, 10 August 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
so this album rules
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 3 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
on & on reprise as the first track is fuckin enlightened imo
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah I should listen to this
― pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
this shit is either going to soundtrack my next emotional breakdown or induce it
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 3 October 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
this is pretty cool
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
the last song is so massive and awesome. this is one of the more confrontational albums i've heard in a minute
― pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
The title track is exceptional.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 6 March 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link
He's back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBA8L_zSZVE
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
New song is just... Okay. Doesn't feel like he's made any progress in the last seven years.
Loved his 2013 album though.
― The Ghost Club, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
i just listened to "ego free sex free" and "play by play" for the first time since this thread was active nine years ago and i still like the former and not the latter
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
anxiety is a near perfect album, something very special about it
new song is fine, glad to have him back at least
― ufo, Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
This guy's thing feels very...of a time
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 9 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link