Shellac (the poor man's Converge...)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
Christian Fennesz, a pop-rock specialist from Austria, was introducing a vast electronic soundscape reportedly predicated on impulses derived from Gustav Mahler. In the process, he clutched a guitar, aka Fender Stratocaster, that could be seen if hardly heard.
His music – term used broadly, advisedly and wincingly – entailed deafening roars, blasts, riffs and rattles (mostly roars) that dulled the senses as they bludgeoned the ears. Some aficionados obviously appreciate this sort of thing. One hopes they understand it. For others, comprehension remains elusive.
The Mahler connection, in any case, required explanation via pretentious technobabble in the programme magazine.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/90fb1a88-a83e-11e3-8ce1-00144feab7de.html
― disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link
^^^^^that's fuckin hysterical
― give kawhi his damn eyedrops (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
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Home UK World Companies Markets Global Economy Lex Comment Management Personal Finance Life & ArtsArtsMagazineFood & DrinkHouse & HomeLunch with the FTStyleBooksPursuitsTravelColumnsHow To Spend ItToolsMarch 10, 2014 4:53 pmMahler Remixed, Zankel Hall, New York – reviewBy Martin Bernheimer
An electro-rock reworking of the Austrian composer’s music in which guitar and Mahler were difficult to discernGoodness gracious.
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link
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― Fairly peng (wins), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
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― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
TROLL RACE
― give kawhi his damn eyedrops (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
people are still fucking using that "i'm not sure if one would call such a thing music" canard after 1928?
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link
I just think 2001 is boring. The only Kubrick I can get into is War Kubrick. The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining. Or the space baby thing with the fanfare. Give it a rest, beardo.Full Metal JacketDr. StrangeloveSpartacusPaths of Glory
I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!
BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:16 PM (9 years ago)
― mrs. missus (clouds), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link
did i say spoon yet? everyone should always say spoon. like dumbed-down coldplay. you heard me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
can the drummer keep the beat steady for an entire boring song? the suspense is killing me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpVlAOO41vw
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
That's a lovely song on the album. All bubbly and foamy. They are quite a boring band but I love them. It's what they do within that template that makes them good. If you like rhythm, try 'Sister Jack', especially when the groove slips into 9/4 in the intro without you noticing.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
like watching water boil for 3 minutes and 30 seconds...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brVGAepDxdg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
perfect pussy more like below-average pussy amirite
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
i don't even know if it's rock music. maybe it is a really clever deconstruction of rock or something. he can't sing. they can't play well. the songs aren't memorable. maybe they are so avant garde they go over my head.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
b-b-b-b-but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM6oOcrzsmA
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
i mean i know that not singing or playing well or writing great songs is kind of the indie rock standard, but, yeesh, people talk about spoon as if they were better than that or something.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
yea they are boring as shit
― marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
that one is really boring too. can't they afford a better drummer by now? don't these big name indie bands make any drummer-fuck-you money?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Spoon is boring, yeah, always had friends who spoke breathlessly about them and never really felt it. Feel the same about a lot of well-liked, highly capable mid-heavy indie rock bands though. I think I just don't like straightforward mid-heavy indie rock that much.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
if you have been a vaguely poppy indie rock band since the early 90's shouldn't you have at least one "sex and candy" moment by now? i should be able to hum one annoying earworm-y indie pop song by you or you are a dud.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
don't these big name indie bands make any drummer-fuck-you money?
There's only so much a drummer can do with such beige material, though. But yeah, never got into Spoon. They're basically Toad the Wet Sprocket, but with a faint whif of pseudo-hipster pseudo-indie pseudo-cred.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and hire a drummer!
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
also: neko case, new pornographers, destroyer, etc. the banality of evil...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
agreed
― marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, this is just how I feel.
Are Built to Spill like that too? I always assumed they were and never really gave them much chance. If you told me otherwise I would trust you.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
They're basically Toad the Wet Sprocket, but with a faint whif of pseudo-hipster pseudo-indie pseudo-cred.
truth bomb
― sleeve, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
better looking though, I thought was the point
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:50 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eh, I'd defend Neko; at least she sings like she cares about singing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
sometimes i can't keep straight in my head built to spill from guided by voices
― marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
to be fair, most american indie rock is a tale told by an idiot. signifying nothing.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
yeah me too sort of, except I know that Guided By Voices is the one with the huge catalog and the seemingly much more devoted and cult-like fanbase.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
I think I still prefer that late 90s/early 00s death rattle of rock and roll chapter in indie rock to the more recent twangly-sweet Bon Ivery fireflies-in-mason-jars stuff though.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
which band is obsessed with the beatles, BtS or GbV?
― marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
yea i agree with that, bon iver fleet foxes softie garbage is not for me, even if some of it is admirable
― marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
IDK, I'm guessing GbV? I'm listening to Built to Spill right now fwiw, sounds a little like a shittier version of older Modest Mouse
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
i don't know if admirable is the right word, more like harmless
GbV is obsessed with the Who. I don't hear it myself, but I haven't heard much GbV.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
So rhythmically pat and predictable though (BTS), MM was way more exciting.
gbv had some half-decent tunes. i still think a decent hard rock band could do an album of the best gbv songs, record them well, and maybe...nah, they wouldn't make any money. never mind.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
I don't believe I've knowingly heard a Spoon song before clicking one of those vids Scott posted.
I saw James on CBS' Saturday morning Sessions segment and thought wow, there's a band that sold a ton of records over quite a few years, became inactive, reunited, and all the while I never heard a single song. I don't know how highly they're rated, but I didn't rate them at all.
― The Thelonius Monk of nu-ki? (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
i DO still think that willie nelson should do an album of grateful dead covers. would be the biggest album he ever had. get the t bone burnett treatment. guest vocalists. would be HUGE. it's really the only million dollar idea i have...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
just as long as they don't involve any members of the dead...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
James is an exceptionally boring band, but I don't remember ever knowing anyone who loved them.
Turned off BtS after a couple songs and put on Lonesome Crowded West -- this record still kicks.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
built to spill are a snooze. i don't know if they are overrated though. don't think anyone really listens to them except for their fading graying original audience. like silkworm fans only sleepier. if that's possible.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
indie rockers the proverbial fish in barrel though. they can be fun to pick on but ultimately kinda pointless. like life. and indie rock.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
stop messing up the thread
― mrs. missus (clouds), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
nick cave owns this thread.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link