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So where do the baltimore folks get together? Ive recently moved here from NY, and dont know much of the music people or scene but would like to- without having to wear petit black glasses and ragged small t-shirts


so, any baltimore people out there?

insectifly (insectifly), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 12:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

i don't know! i'm passing through baltimore on my america trip, and i started a baltimore thread but nobody seemed to live there.

colin meeder used to live there but now lives in germany

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

the previous baltimore thread

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

yo! Baltimore right here! i don't think there are any other ILM regulars here, besides the awesomely awesome Lee Gardner. what do you want to know, exactly? good venues, bands, record stores, just places to hang out?


Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

things to go and see, i was originally going to stay there on monday night, but accomodation seemed thin on the ground, and quite expensive, so i've gone for another night in DC and a probably day trip to baltimore

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah I really dont know what Im asking.. LOL Ive hoarded the record shops and the cd shops, go to the Ottobar (which I love)... havent been to the Talking Head or SideBar-

places to hang? or people into music, yeah... I like Balt... but dont know anyone

insectifly (insectifly), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

things to go and see, i was originally going to stay there on monday night, but accomodation seemed thin on the ground, and quite expensive, so i've gone for another night in DC and a probably day trip to baltimore

Gareth- it depends on where you stay.. if you were looking at the Inner Harbor...then yeah it can get "expensive" (which is relative anyway)...there are other areas however...

when are you coming down? do you know where you're gonna check out?

insectifly (insectifly), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

mmm, don't know now.

i leave washington on the morning of tuesday the 8th, and had planned to check into philadelphia on the afternoon of the same night. the plan was to head into baltimore on the monday (7th) and come back to washington in the evening. the baltimore youth hostel shut down didn't it?

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lee's paper just had their Best Of Baltimore issue a couple weeks ago: http://bob.citypaper.com/bob2002/default.asp
that and the previous thread Gareth linked covered a lot of stuff.

miscellaneous reasons I love Baltimore: the Sound Garden (definitely stop in there while you're in town), the cobblestone streets in Fells Point, walking the dog in Patterson Park (which has gotten really cleaned up in the past couple years), Baltimore club music late nights on Q92.3 and X105.7, our gradual invasion of hip hop radio (Mario, B Rich, Nature's Problem), the Senator Theatre (as featured in the Mario video!), Cex, Lake Trout, Charm City Suicides, Oranges Band, Slow Jets, driving/walking around and recognizing stuff from Homocide and various Levinson or Waters joints, parking garage rooftop soccer, getting away with saying "hon" on a daily basis, Camden Yards (got hooked up with amazing seats on Sunday...game wasn't much but the view was gorgeous), Dung How, Brick Oven Pizza (my pops lives in Fells Point, can you tell?), driving around with my dad and hearing all about his history with the city, High Zero Festival (was last weekend, a hoot as usual, highzero.org) blah blah blah I know I'm forgetting so much.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

the baltimore youth hostel shut down didn't it?
It did (and is?) shutdown, although I read somewhere that they were hoping to re-open it..although that doesnt do you any good...


Thanks Al, all that stuff, well I know about.. and I agree that those are some of the things that make Balto a nice place.. I was at the game on Sunday as well.. (but being from NY, well you know;)

insectifly (insectifly), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, i'm afraid i can't help you with too many backroads or little hipster holes in the wall, that was just my boring li'l lovefest. glad you appreciate your new home, though.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Al- oh, Im sorry,.. I didnt mean to come off as ungrateful...

insectifly (insectifly), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, no, it's alright, i didn't mean to come off as insulted. hugs!

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Insectifly: Where folks get together here sorta depends on what kinda folks you're talking about--more details would help. That said, if you love the Ottobar, the Talking Head is sort of Ottobar Jr. The Sidebar is a whole 'nother version of the same sorta thing (laywer bar by day/rock hole by night), but I've seen some pretty great shows there. You might want to keep an eye peeled for happenings at Mission Space and the G-Spot too--both host lots of interesting art/music/film events where you might find like-minded souls. And if you're more into the avant/freaky end of things, be on the lookout for info on shows at the Red Room (inside the awesome Normals Books in Waverly), Payan's Rugs, or Tarantula Hill. Lightning Bolt played T Hill last summer and it was one of the best shows of any kind I've ever seen anywhere. You just missed the High Zero improv fest, but the MicroCineFest film festival is coming up at the end of October, and that's always a hoot.

Gareth: Mondays can be kind of tough for nightlife/entertainment, and some of the cooler daytime attractions--like the American Visionary Art Museum and the American Dime Museum--are closed that day. If you just wanna shop, I'd recommend Sound Garden for CDs, Normals for books and records, and Music Liberated for Baltimore "club" music, if you wanna be the first on your block when you get home. And it's hard to go wrong with dinner at Peter's Inn in Fells Point or dinner at Zodiac and a drink next door at the Club Charles, a pan-generational hipster boite/Baltimore institution near the train station. As far as I know, the hostel remains shuttered though local folks are trying to get it open again in the not-too-distant future. In the meantime, cheap places to stay are few and far between.

By the way, I never saw the previous Baltimore thread or I would've been happy to weigh in. What else do you want to know?

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hear Ray Lewis is a nice guy - true?

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 October 2002 01:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

No idea, but he was cleared of all charges.

Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 3 October 2002 12:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

eleven years pass...

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2014/02/20/baltimore-sun-to-acquire-city-paper.html

Baltimore City Paper bought by Baltimore Sun, layoffs at Baltimore CIty Paper expected...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link

oh hey

Waluigi Weingarten (some dude), Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link

I guess it will take awhile to see how this plays out

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

nah I think it will play out pretty quickly!

Waluigi Weingarten (some dude), Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

Ugh, sorry everybody. Al, are you full time at the City Paper or a freelancer?

Evan R, Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

oh man, whoah

sorry to learn of this

the tune was space, Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

I am pretty sure he's a freelancer

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 February 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

Apparently the former owners first put the City Paper up for sale last summer according to that article. Did not know that

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 February 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

I used to for a weekly that was owned by the same company that operated the city's daily, and that arrangement really doesn't work well. It lends itself to all sorts of coverage conflicts and brand confusion and not-great marketing/sales tie-in ideas, etc.

Evan R, Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

yeah I'm a freelancer, as I have been for the last 9 years, and will be until I can't or it no longer exists. I was offered a full-time position once -- the offer was rescinded a week later when the previous ownership decided the position no longer existed.

no idea what this means yet for me, although i'm already an approved freelancer for the Sun, so it can't hurt to have an in on both sides of the thing. the Sun has been dying for a long time, but it's been dying slowly, so that's something.

some dude, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Heard a little WAMU radio story on the purchase this morning. The Sun says they will somehow keep the CP and the Sun separate to avoid the conflicts that Evan mentioned. Feel bad in advance for City Paper fulltimers who will apparently be let go.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 February 2014 14:52 (ten years ago) link

inevitable…

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Ha. I not only forgot about this thread, I forgot that I had posted on it under a now-dead login more than a decade ago (and I never knew that I knew some dude).

I left CP a couple of years ago, but it just this morning occurred to me that those freelance assignments I had lined up for April maybe aren't happening anymore.

Of course, a bunch of my friends/former coworkers may be about to lose their jobs, so my problem is pretty minor as problems go.

DLee, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/21/newspaper-firing-staff-baltimore-city-paper-fired-staffers-acquisition-sun_n_4832788.html

Reportedly fired everyone but told them them they could reapply.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 February 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link

DLee = Lee G, right? hey dude!

MISTERSNRUB (some dude), Sunday, 23 February 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link

Heya. I mostly lurk these days, but I hadda step in on this.

Right now everything is mere speculation. I believe the CP staff is supposed to find out more about what's going on, and who still has jobs, later this week.

DLee, Monday, 24 February 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link

http://www.baltimorebrew.com/2014/02/28/under-pressure-from-advertisers-baltimore-city-paper-spikes-a-review/

I think the Travis Kitchens review of Jason Aldean/Florida Georgia Line was pretty dumb in a rockist/pure country authenticity way, but yea it was too bad they had to give in to advertisers and pull it.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 March 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link

what i've heard is that the alleged threatening sponsors buy full page-ads and their business is practically worth somebody's salary, so it's not the kind of problem easily dismissed in the name of principles, i'd imagine. i'm surprised this happened in that if it was going to happen, it seems like it should've happened to me or someone else a lot sooner -- i write concert listings every week and at one point wrote 50+ concert reviews a year on the CP site and never held back on negative opinions (nor have most of CP's other music writers for as long as i've read it). Lupe Fiasco said "fuck you" to me on twitter recently, but i've never gotten an advertiser to threaten the paper.

MISTERSNRUB (some dude), Sunday, 2 March 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link

I think the problem isn't what he wrote about the performers, but the crowd. Most college papers wouldn't let a writer get away with capturing "rednecks" in such broad, ugly strokes. Imagine if he wrote about the crowd at a rap show that way.

Evan R, Sunday, 2 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

He lamely defended using "rednecks" because he said Aldeen did a shoutout to "rednecks" and much of the crowd responded favorably, so that made it ok for him to say it.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link

That's very nice.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/opinion/are-alt-weeklies-over.html?emc=edit_th_20140305&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=31119931

Baltimore City Paper's Baynard Woods defends alt-weeklies

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

"Terrible, more of a slam piece than a review..."

And, of course, the article gives more "authority" to this promoter than he deserves. People who read reviews LOVE stuff like this - when deserved. I think the promoter is one of those people who has never read a negative review In a mainstream publication. I mean, something is wrong when a critic can't even take on American Idol.

Neurotic, Neurotic, Put Your Hands All Over My Botic (I M Losted), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/04/15/frederic_nauczyciel_photographs_voguing_communities_in_his_exhibition_the.html

Photos of Baltimore voguers now on exhibit in NYC.

Nauczyciel was in Baltimore on a grant from the French government in 2011 when he stumbled across some voguers performing in a parking lot. He posted photos of the event to Facebook and quickly found himself flooded with new connections in the ballroom scene. “Before that, I had maybe 50 friends on Facebook. Suddenly I ended up having 200 friends—voguers from Baltimore and New York,” he said.

Nauczyciel stayed five months in the city, intrigued by the themes of race, gender, and performance that are embedded in ballroom culture.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link

I guess that's a different scene than what Some Dude is gonna chronicle in his book?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

i'm not aware of much crossover between those scenes (other than Miss Tony, who was kind of a singular figure), but i'd definitely be interested to find out

posi riot (some dude), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://bandwidth.wamu.org/towson-glen-arm-freakouts-baltimore-music/

Mike Apichella was a teenager in Baltimore County in the ’90s. Early in the decade, he and his pals formed a loose music and art collective named Towson-Glen Arm after their hometowns. They rallied around a love of art, activism and the avant-garde, bridging the silly and the sincere; Towson-Glen Arm kids wrote poetry about social issues, but they also formed bands with names like Spastic Cracker and Lesbian Chicken Maggot Blasters.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/850-op-ed-white-privilege-and-black-lives-in-the-baltimore-music-scene/

Lower Dens singer editorial piece.

One nitpick---But what about Some Dude, who has written about more than Baltimore indie rock

curmudgeon, Friday, 31 July 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

bump

curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 August 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link

Need to check twitter and see what Baltimore folks thought about this

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 August 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

everyone i've talked to thought it was a great piece and v accurate. so do i. there was some dissent from a local promotor the day the piece ran - that abdu ali was (paraphrasing here) "making his relative lack of success about racial inequality, not the fact that his music and attitude both suck" - and he was just absolutely roasted online

flappy bird, Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

One nitpick---But what about Some Dude, who has written about more than Baltimore indie rock

― curmudgeon, Friday, July 31, 2015 6:35 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol well i'm not exactly the only exception. but i did rant on twitter about how it is frustrating to write for 10+ years about black musicians doing DIY things in Baltimore and be continually told that doesn't exist or just started, or have Pitchfork of all places point out that gee only white indie bands from Baltimore have a national profile how weird.

it was a very good piece tho.

some dude, Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

I saw Dwarfs of East Agouza (Sublime Frequencies label band led by Alan Bishop once in Sun City Girls) at the Compound on Kirk Street in Charles Village area sorta near North Ave in a former car repair shop looking place, where you had to enter in from a hard to find entrance in back in an area of Baltimore with warehouses and just a liquor store nearby selling single cheap beers. The crowd was standing and some dancing and enthusiastic. Maybe some were there to see the members of Animal Collective (Deakin & Geologist) who opened, but they mostly stuck around for Dwarfs. Plus since Baltimore gets less events than DC, I think that helped draw more people too. Ian Nagoski who runs Canary Records was there, Tonal Park Studio in Takoma , MD guy too

So more of a white diy event obvs (if one is looking at earlier 2015 posts above)

curmudgeon, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:46 (six months ago) link

Glad The Compound is still kicking. Last time I was there was for a packed out Halloween party/show several years ago with Dan Deacon (who iirc was painted yellow and dressed as Homer Simpson lol) and several others. Was a fantastic night.

circa1916, Monday, 23 October 2023 00:59 (six months ago) link


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