Gene Simmons
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
Shitty songs
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
merchandising
not actually being in Satan's service
inept guitar solos
Paul Stanley not actually being gay
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
I sorta think the best thing about KISS is the merchandising, because it's all downhill from there.
― Pete Barbutti's Hair (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Friday, 11 April 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
all things about Kiss
― art, Friday, 11 April 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
Films starring Edward Furlong
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 12 April 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 April 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
Stage banter > actual tunes
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 12 April 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
Seriously: those two fools dismiss Ace and Peter but why the fuck did they need Gene Simmons as a band member? Hire him as manager.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 April 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
Gene Simmons' book of women he's slept withThat Gene Simmons was the only member of Kiss who would sleep with groupies after a show before he showered/took off his make-upGene Simmons' hairGene Simmons in the Tom Selleck movie about killer robot bugsThat Gene Simmons dated both Cher and Diana Ross (wtf?)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
Dimebag was buried in a Kiss coffinThe drummer who replaced Peter Criss was allowed to sing "Beth" on stageGene Simmons' politicsGene Simmons on Fresh AirThat Gene Simmons sex tape
"Lick It Up"
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
This clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_zsqTqgBTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9zzHnRYxtc
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link
What a tool Simmons comes off this early on, and how whatshername so easily puts him in his place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7MS0GxKoQ
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
Paul and Gene giving Geddy a cream pie to the face on the last date of Rush's opening stint:
http://rockchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Paul-Gene-Geddy-217x300.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
"Shock Me" is one of the most overrated songs ever.
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link
I will ride for the Destroyer album, track #1 on Love Gun, and "Love Gun"....
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LM2bevPzo
― earlnash, Saturday, 12 April 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
Their continued existence after 1976.
― Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 April 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
I actually prefer all of the early songs Gene sings lead on. If you get rid of the Paul songs you've got a good 3rd string hard rock band going for an album and a half worth of material.
― Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 April 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
^ that's pretty OTM. They had about six or seven songs that AC/DC wouldn't necessarily be embarrassed to use as b-sides, but that's pretty much it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 April 2014 04:01 (nine years ago) link
Gene Simmons in the Tom Selleck movie about killer robot bugs
Simmons is pretty good in that movie, it's just that the script has the character do stupid/impossible things (like having the villain walking into a police station without a disguise to steal some evidence, but none of the several dozen cops there recognise him, even though they're already looking for him after he blew up three police cars)
― an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Saturday, 12 April 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link
He would have been good in that movie if his disguise was him in Kiss make-up.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link
This never gets old to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jxIORSFySo
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 April 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
Best simultaneous tribute to/parody of Jimmy Page ever.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 April 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
I forgot all about that video. Absolutely perfect that Paul Stanley inadvertently created SHRED videos.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 12 April 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Tappity tappity tappity tappity whearrrrrrrngg.
― Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 April 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
I mean, he had every right to be pissed off, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwXi02hdTJk
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 12 April 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
as if on cue: grantland.com's definitive guide to kiss.
Whenever Kiss cajole people into paying more money than the market demands, they tell everyone they know. They give instructional interviews about how future bait-and-switch endeavors can be designed, and they adopt the newest dodgy model for all prospective undertakings. Moreover, they’d insist the exchange was mutual. They would say the experience they offer is singular and nontransferable, and that anyone who isn’t willing to pay for the Kiss experience isn’t a Kiss fan (and therefore does not matter, or perhaps even exist). It’s the guiding principle behind everything Kiss does: To “qualify” as a Kiss supporter, you have to be a Kiss consumer. And this is nonnegotiable — it doesn’t work any other way. If you try to enjoy Kiss in the same way you enjoy Foghat or Culture Club or Spoon, you’ll fail. You might like a handful of songs or appreciate the high-volume nostalgia, but it will inevitably seem more ridiculous than interesting. To make this work, you need to go all the way. And this is because the difficult part of liking Kiss — the manipulative, unlikable part — is how you end up loving them.
all true!, up to the last little clause about coming, eventually, to love them.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 14 April 2014 04:48 (nine years ago) link
That the dreadful human being Gene Simmons, who is a more dreadful human being than the dreadful human being Peter Criss, is also a more talented instrumentalist than Peter Criss.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 14 April 2014 07:59 (nine years ago) link
I love Kiss and have since I was a New York kid who saw them as both natives from the city I was in as well as stars from another planet. I still remember the day in 1979 when one of the Sunday newspapers put a Kiss iron-on insert in it and that Monday seemingly every kid in the five boroughs wore a Fruit Of The Loom with a crooked Kiss logo on the front.
But I must admit that liking Kiss as an adult is kinda like liking the Yankees. I was born in the Bronx and have followed the Yanks my whole life and they have given me a lot to cheer about, but I have to put up with shit like hundred dollar tickets for mediocre seats to regular season games, the team selling Yankee stadium dirt, and also them destroying the legendary House That Ruth Built.
With the Yanks, I prefer to ignore the business bullshit and fixate on how Graig Nettles was my favorite Yankee as a kid and how as an adult, I got to celebrate a World Series win over Philly while I lived in Philly; with Kiss I'll remember how much I loved the band as a kid and ignore Kiss Koffins.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 14 April 2014 08:07 (nine years ago) link
Also, let me state for the record that as disgusting as Kiss is, they have not been one tenth as offensive to me as Ted Nugent. I can still listen to Kiss records, no problems. But now, even Ted's most amazing moments make me cringe.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 14 April 2014 08:09 (nine years ago) link
Audiophiles may note that Hotter Than Hell was remastered in 1997, thereby making its appalling production extra loud.
This is exactly right. I was fucking ASTONISHED when I got the remastered CD. Still sounds like the snare drum was recorded through a wall with a telephone.
― Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 14 April 2014 09:36 (nine years ago) link
Radio in the police cruiser the first time I was arrested was tuned to a rock block of Kiss the whole way to the station.
― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link
Cassingle of Let's Put the X in Sex was one of the first tapes I shoplifted as a kid and was very disappointing. I dunno, I guess I had expected boobie girls to just jump out of my stereo.
― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link
the worst thing about Kiss is that the worst things about them are what make them fascinating
if you haven't read the Peter Criss autobiography, it's easily the most entertaining bit of Kiss writing I've ever read. we lived with it in a tour van for a couple of weeks howling with laughter.
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 April 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, Peter Criss. That reminds me that when I was a kid, I always used to get Kiss mixed up with Cats.
― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
The Criss bio is up there in the pantheon of debauched stupid people memoirs, though nothing tops "The Dirt" on that front. It's the sort of ur-text of tour van reading.
They would say the experience they offer is singular and non-transferable
Says the band that regularly replaces its members with new make-up wearing musicians, and that is actively talking about passing the make-up and characters on to an entire replacement band once Gene and Paul finally throw in the towel.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.kissonline.com/non_secure/images/20130104/news/newphantom/full.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
Chuck D sez: "I always felt Kiss deserved to be inducted."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
"Uh! All Night", even worse than "Chug All Night"
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
“Personally,” the Public Enemy co-founder says, “I always felt Kiss deserved to be inducted.”
Always, Chuck? Always? I did like this accidental bit of brilliance:
You’re supposed to throw your personal tastes out the window when you’re doing this.
Well, that's one way to justify Kiss.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
So is this:
True enough, but what does Chuck think about the actual music of Kiss? “It’s like cheap beer,” he says with a laugh.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, April 14, 2014 3:35 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
straight out of the CIA torture handbook
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
In one of his notorious "snowflakes" – terse memos tossed off by the dozens a day – Donald Rumsfeld approved Crazy Nights and Unmasked as suitable for enhanced interrogation.
"I make no distinction between the masked and unmasked days," Rumsfeld wrote. "Why should the prisoners?"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.kissonline.com/non_secure/images/20110730/news/weddingparty/medium.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
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― pplains, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
Not every song is "Strutter".
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 14 April 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
they gave a bad name to the word "plodding".
― scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
hahaha scott otm
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Monday, 14 April 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I was gonna cut and paste what you wrote about'em in the Eagles thread.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 April 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Plod >>>> KISS
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
who better to write & perform a song like "Stranglehold" than a genuinely evil, violent, controlling psychotic?
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 14 April 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
Amboy Dukes/early Nuge is amazing stuff. like, really really great hard rock. i just ignore modern nuge completely. he is only alive in the 60's and 70's to me.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
When High Times asked him about this song in 1977, he replied: "It's a combination of the Nazi thing, which has got to be the ultimate scam on the earth. I deplore that scene and how they should have controlled themselves. Some f--kin' stromtroopers come down my street, Jack, they're dead. Got it? F--kin' Jews and everybody else that got taken, I have no sympathy, man. They should have armed themselves and crushed them pricks. So the idea is don't ever be stormtrooped, you do the Stormtroopin'."
― how's life, Monday, 14 April 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
I have no problem enjoying music by loathsome people, but yeah let's not pretend like the Nuge suddenly became an asshole in 1985. he was always an asshole.
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
What happened in 1985?
― how's life, Monday, 14 April 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
Tears For Fears topped the chart.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 April 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
I just picked a year out of a hat but otoh this happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrIOTPoR2ws
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
can't find a source for that High Times quote other than a post on Songfacts??? I mean, I believe it, I'm just surprised it's not all over the Internet.
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 14 April 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
ftr Ted deplores the nazi scene man
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that was my only source. Unfortunately, LexisNexis does not carry back issues of High Times. : (
― how's life, Monday, 14 April 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Was that the same HT interview where he tells of beating the draft by shitting in his pants for a week? (What was he talking to a doper magazine in the first place for anyways?)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 14 April 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
Another story he claims he told just to BS the interviewer. Ted Nugent not the most trustworthy of talkers, apparently.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
his greatest crime might be naming a live album Full Bluntal Nugity.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
not sure who's worse in general, Gene Simmons or Ted Nugent
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Nuge is at least above-proficient on his chosen instrument I guess
Another story he claims he told just to BS the interviewer. Ted Nugent not the most trustworthy of talkers, apparently.― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 14, 2014
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 14, 2014
ted nugent one in a long line of untrustworthy talkers.
http://morganrlewis.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/tdk-0992.jpg?w=584&h=233
"Wanna know how I got these scars? My father was a drinker and a fiend. And one night he goes off crazier than usual. Mommy gets the kitchen knife to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So - me watching - he takes the knife to her, laughing while he does it! Turns to me, and he says, 'Why so serious, son?' Comes at me with the knife... 'Why so serious?' He sticks the blade in my mouth... 'Let's put a smile on that face!'"
"Oh, you look nervous. Is it the scars? Wanna know how I got 'em? C'mere, look at me. So, I had a wife, who was beautiful...like you, who tells me I worry too much, who tells me I oughta smile more, who gambles and gets in deep with the sharks ... Hey. One day they carve her face. And we got no money for surgeries. She can't take it. I just want to see her smile again. Hmm? I just wanted to let her know that I don't care about the scars. So, I stick a razor in my mouth and do this... to myself. And you know what? She can't stand the sight of me! She leaves! Now I see the funny side. Now, I'm always smiling!"
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
IMO he wasn't lying about the pants-shitting, just the reason for it
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
nuge is way worse than gene imo
but nuge has some p good songs
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
I think if Ted Nugent were to die, I could go back to liking some of his classic songs. Every time he opens his mouth, he pollutes the earth though.
― how's life, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
The story around Kiss that is really kind of shady is the whole thing around Eric Carr at the end of his life. Pretty much he got cancer and KISS just kept going. Even Paul and Gene's explanation about the thing that I heard on Youtube doesn't exactly sound all that cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6P2OorySdQ
― earlnash, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
it didn't sound so bad for the first half of that clip, and then it suddenly seems -- from paul stanley and gene simmons' own words -- like the band was horribly callous toward carr toward the end of carr's life. i wonder if stanley and simmons realized, at the time, how terrible they sounded.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link