PVC // Purple Velvet Curtains

Okay can we talk about this dude? Cos he is just THE BEST.

Such a potent mix of baseline turbulence and 2-step friskiness and by turns murderous and carnivalesque hardcore energy, in a manner that evades easy categorisation but has a surplus of vibes in the bank.

She Can Get It / You Know My Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFpGxpuUKVE

Our Reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRMhplKRevY

Learn To Fly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2NlUqEPNA

Forget The Burner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ClmfhasHZw

Listen Carefully:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuhj6nXozg

Leng off the Ting:

https://soundcloud.com/purplevelvetcurtains/leng-off-the-ting-pvc?in=purplevelvetcurtains/sets/free-df

Bass Clinique Studio Mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGxw2ZLtK8

Track listing:
1. Brandon Boucher & Billy Kenny -- Those Days
2. Dave Fogg -- Bad Guy
3. My Nu Leng -- Knowing
4. PVC -- Let Go
5. DeadBeat -- Clear My Mind
6. PVC -- Long Weave
7. PVC -- She Can Get It
8. Distro -- Deep Down
9. PVC -- Listen Carefully
10. PVC -- Learn To Fly
11. A.Motion & Conducta -- If U Leave
12. My Nu Leng -- Masterplan
13. Sun Dance & Cassidy -- Healing
14. PVC -- Forget The Burner

The tunes under the Sundance & Cassidy moniker are also ace: see "Healing", "Her" and "Run".

Check it.

okay yes to this

I feel like a lot of contemporary dance producers have embraced soporific drum reverb that sucks the punch out of their tracks so it fills me with all kinds of joy when I hear something that really THUMPS like this

yes this guys a bit special, this is the first one of his i heard. the perfectly timed needle screech sample drew me in. wicked sudden transition between the warpy bassline bit and the 2steppy organ bit nailed it.
https://soundcloud.com/purplevelvetcurtains/diamond-life-pvc-remix

PVC's guest mix (in the middle of the set) here is amazing:

https://m.soundcloud.com/intheface/deadbeat-b2b-gash-pvc-guest-mix-in-the-face-sub-fm-show-24-june

So many fabulous compelling exclusive new productions, dude is a genius, esp. the way he suspends vocal hooks within the grooves, it's like they're caught in the middle of a rope obstacle course.

From about 45 min in.

Aw yeah

https://soundcloud.com/thedeeprot/pvc-beautiful-day-deeprot-download

Seriously though can we talk about this tune, it's ridiculous.

idk i know this is way harsh tai but i kinda feel this guy is an example of how being lavishly talented and maximalist in spirit can go a bit wrong...? like if having limitless power results in your becomimg the chocolate puma of the lame-o marcus nasty student whiteboy basshouse scene then maybe it's time to get some perimeters and parameters on the go

the earlier bits ('she can get it'/ 'you know my man'/ 'our reason') feel a bit tighter to me and far better for it (quite possibly a q contextual mirage i guess), this new one is a hugely enjoyable trip 2 the moon on its own but otherwise its function is obscure if not untempting

that purge mix did nothing for me either tbh, just seemed a lot of monotonously unlovely aggro

I've heard it in the mix and it does sound "leaner" in that setting (though less lean than e.g. "She Can Get It" obv).

I assume Chocolate Puma were chosen at random, or is there some specific and enlightening nuance to that diss I'm missing?

xpost haha let's just clear the air all at once.

TBH though I never really know in advance when something is gonna strike me as lame-o student whiteboy / monotonously unlovely aggro and when I'm going to love it; I can't even really defend why the Purge mix works for me.

acen is actually probably a v good ref pt that my subconscious has dredged up there without telling me

idk i guess i'm reasonably captivated by a lot of monotonous shuffle right now so maybe it's trendy horses for courses

ha yeah idk about choc puma either but it felt right... something about unpredictably pulling big chunky fun moves i guess

fair to say also that marcus' efforts these last few days for rinse fm's "uk funky takeover" have likely left me irrationally embittered

I just avoid marcus' show now, it surprised me to discover that a fair amount of the releases on his label (ugh "bass clinique" - it's like a parody of a record label name simon reynolds would have complained about in 1997) are quite good.

BASS CLINIQUE 003 "Moombahton Warrior V.I.P" - Punch The Speaker E.P - Organic Phunk

this is probably the worst set of words of i've ever seen

haaaaa

i mean yeah the 1997 thing is spot on, who is marcus trying to be now like rennie pilgrem or dave tipper or w/e

would that make pvc the nu skool stanton warriors or what idk

try and sell that purge mix to me tho, i'm not closing the book just yet

my vague and slightly offensive frame of reference for purge and taiko & nulight mixes is that it's the interzone equivalent of the sami koivikko / misc. / areal period of german tech-house, all chunky and spiky like you're trying to digest too-large chunks of grooves. Casting back even further, this stuff is Dom & Roland's Industry, i.e. the magic resides entirely in how it parks itself just on the right side of monotonously unlovely aggro, drawing some kind of energy from the hyper proximity of those barren badlands. That Distro remix of Conducta's "Let Go" I posted in the other thread is even structured like an archetypal bass-house take of D&R's forever-classic "Elektra". But of course the poison pill secret of D&R was that (a) even he went a bit boring at times, even then right in the midst of his largely unacknowledged golden age, and (b) once you zoom out and think of Industry in the context of what it was part of and what came immediately afterwards you'd be like why the fuck would I ever even bother.

Anyway both that Purge mix and my fave Taiki & Nulight mixes are real "walking home from the train station in the dark very purposefully" mix propositions for me, and I have to be careful that I don't start stuttering my steps in time to the music which I'm pretty certain would look idiotic.

ya i will listen to those again with a clean mindslate cos i certainly recognise that slightly contrary impulse... like idk if u ever checked that archie b shuffle mix i wz boosting a while ago but while it's all tunes in the scene more or less he presents it all as verging on almost-comedically intense doomy atmospheric burial type shit, proper evil glaring glowering pitilessly punishing uber-metalheadz cold booming sepulchral goth-tech that makes u have existential feels about discarded syringes/thesauri etc. absolutely not what i seek from art in general but its self-belief has an ineluctable orbit

https://soundcloud.com/foodmusicuk/kry-wolf-citrus-out-28th-july

not to gak up yr thread any more but r u familiar with this one btw? it's v pvc i like it a lot

oh actually its a bit less dirty than i recalled... pvc-lite then

can this be temp general basshouse thread? will another grunterbubblerbottler thread ever be named? yall already know how i so hate the dumont thread being sullied. i know there's this to check ft pvc

https://soundcloud.com/some-people-gang/nasty-fm-podcast-25092014-pavv-b2b-pvc-b2b-rez

but meh i havent got round to it yet. HOWEVER

https://soundcloud.com/yoshi-p-uk/de-contrenand-on-the-bassline-bully-show-with-yoshi-p-9-9-14

check this guy & his super fun show out! luvvit when the world sets about proving me rong. lil bit mighty moe/heartless, lil bit b-jaxx, lil bit ummm idk kissy sell out? (never paid him enough attention to know for sure tbh but maybe just more in terms of him being a mashup one-off rather than big deal scene leader). in general terms wrt "bass" as amorphous desiring vehicle this is the off the wall big beat revival (nb. brighton-based) og jackin vibe that other basshouse i've heard ignores or perhaps rather keeps closeted (also yes he plays chocolate puma there! so step BACK!)

yoshi's own tune here is a good precis, simple but appealing: https://soundcloud.com/yoshi-p-uk/yoshi-p-mash-up-the-place-rinse-fm-rip

(he also seems to be friendly with nrky and plays his extracurricular bits like 'feel so' and this other one i will be ripping shortly)

Downloading that set now.

And yes, this can be that thread.

Did u ever listen to this Taiki & Nulight live set?

Not sure if candy coloured enough but i love it:

https://soundcloud.com/partylikeusrecords/taiki-nulight-night-bass-sound?in=taiki-nulight-uk/sets/mixed

i definitely did, and then definitely forgot any opinions4u pertaining. will recheck!

Also this new Taiki & Nulight free download track is amaze:

https://soundcloud.com/taiki-nulight-uk/discoloured-free-download

https://soundcloud.com/itsnocturnal/nocturnal-how-has-it-been-feel-good

ok hows about this

that t&n is ridic! and so (as u said) was 'iaeatd' which probably should have broken out more than it did

i'd guess maybe what stopped it from doing so is also the usp of the stuff you've been selecting which is the ultra hi-tech widescreen scifi hifi audio test music vibe which eschews a regular kinda swing for something more abstract and stilted/zombified freaky

uh yeah this nocturnal tune is my shit

the wideboys really have a lot to answer for don't they

like i feel like a lot of this stuff : the wideboys :: future garage : steve gurley

my natural instinct is of course up middle finger to stuff that needs good speakers maan but yeah nah i am impressed

That Yoshi P tune!! shameless "Dancehall Queen" sampling!!!

Does this mean I have to pay attention to Roska's show or

xpost yeah I get you on that, I think though that the sonic fetishisation of an aesthetic that remains so plasticky and aspirational-glamour and non-deep means that even these ~studio wizardry~ latterday efforts avoid some of the dead-on-arrival desiccated butterfly under glass feel that characterised future garage from the moment it was invented. Probably not for long, but for a little while.

xp ha jamie george tbf

as soon as i think "fuck no" i'm already dling the most recent one juuuuust to be sure :(

otoh thinking back to shuffle tech i'm feeling there's a slight tension (possibly even a looming rupture) between today's g-house ruffneck rude and the more austere prowling scifi headspace dub of the earlier matt fear/majesty/playtime wave, and i'm def still more on the side of the latter atm so i'm not being entirely true

BTW I did go back and listen to the Archie B set again - it does have that grim vibe but so much confidence in its sound-as-a-genre that even if I wasn't feeling it - which of course I do - I don't think I'd ever be minded to question the selector-judgment at work.

Whereas with this stuff it's almost like for me the charm can be that it's skating so close to going bad? In that sense - though obv not in sound or aesthetic preoccupation or anything else really - it reminds me of broken beat where I never knew in advance whether I was gonna love something or loathe it.

can I be the anti-lex and ask for a dj set recommends in respect of today's g-house ruff neck rude?

hi soz, funny thing is for all i've mentioned it i havent really had specific trax in to mind... try these in the meantime

http://www.beatport.com/release/rock-steady/1376537
https://soundcloud.com/nightshift-1/nightshift-that-hard-street-s
https://soundcloud.com/thisiscuff/cuff009-ennio-go-insane
https://soundcloud.com/marckinchen/kant-vs-mk-ey-yo-mk-remix-radio-edit

it's not quite as simple as bigbeat "rap sample &" tho, more like the phasing from ascetic grooves to a general tough linearity

"Ey Yo" is marvellous.

The grooves on this stuff feel more Chicago house to me than other deep tech - though we're splitting hairs a bit here obv. Or maybe not so much Chicago house itself as a collective dream of Chicago house - strip off the raps (or not!) and these would be DJ T set fillers circa 2005.

this (great!!) tune gets play and is actually on get physical so

https://soundcloud.com/martin-ikin/loves-enemy-preview

something like adonis 'no way back' is def og shuffle material (also cf again the excellent article here Jackin' House partisans, convince a skeptic )

(through which i learned of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Shuffle !!!!!!!! originators!)

https://soundcloud.com/toughlovemusic/amine-edge-dance-vs-tough

only tangentially related now but btw if u were asking cos of an actual dj set responsibility ... ur welcome

xpost yeah I know we really were the originators!

Haha I missed the second last post, i meant recommendation of DJ sets to listen to, not recommendations for a DJ set (the closest thing I get to a DJ set these days is queuing up Londonbeat at parties).

Anyway I came back to say that this show is excellent:

https://soundcloud.com/yoshi-p-uk/de-contrenand-on-the-bassline-bully-show-with-yoshi-p-9-9-14

check this guy & his super fun show out! luvvit when the world sets about proving me rong. lil bit mighty moe/heartless, lil bit b-jaxx, lil bit ummm idk kissy sell out? (never paid him enough attention to know for sure tbh but maybe just more in terms of him being a mashup one-off rather than big deal scene leader). in general terms wrt "bass" as amorphous desiring vehicle this is the off the wall big beat revival (nb. brighton-based) og jackin vibe that other basshouse i've heard ignores or perhaps rather keeps closeted (also yes he plays chocolate puma there! so step BACK!)

De Contrebande's guest mix re-alerts me to the existence of My Nu Leng's "Masterplan", sounds so amazing rounding out the set here.

I read a soundcloud comment that described my nu leng as the "neurofunk of house'n'bass" (how ugly a phrase this must look to any outsider), which felt like it chimed in with my Dom & Roland reference upstairs. Maybe MNL are bass's Source Direct (see also "Knowing" on this tip).

(speaking of which D&R seems to be killing it again, but that's a whole 'nother story)

xp yeah defo... this doesnt exist for no reason (and to that end feels more like solution than novelty)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RW5Y-1jslw

'sleepless' is another good one, unmistakable ed rush & optical sfx (lol idk why u keep going for all the high-end concept neurofunk)

perhaps uncharitably i even tend to think they often qualify as n-funk per se more thru context and sympathetic remixing, as some of their unadorned bits are actually among the most funkless in the scene and therefore nudge them further down the timeline to pendulum-style moody bedroom headbangers by proxy (instro grime obv also has a part to play in that)

also reminded of kidnap kid saying his first cd was pendulum... heh this could easily now spin off into looking at the parallel shadowline dnb has been drawing alongside the rise of bass both pop and underground

ooh while i remember i might as well take this opportunity to shout out the monstrous chris lorenzo mix of "you've been gone" tho... near as you'll ever get to a perfect uncanny horror audio recreation of the skeletons bit in jason & the argonauts

Well yeah "Knowing" and "Sleepless" are def. more Ed Rush & Optical (as is a lot of DIstro material), "Masterplan" has got more of that ruptured drum kit vibe though. They seem very inconsistent though.

LOVE the Lorenzo remix but that almost goes without saying.

now fallen into ram trilogy teebee etc wormhole find help

https://soundcloud.com/projectalloutrecords/pvc-got-to-love

ooh

kinda like the peshay v photek collabo way back when got too carried away and now here's its mutant sewer baby all grown up

wowwwwwwwwww

let no beat tear asunder