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Like, good-sounding and affordable mics for recording! Besides 57s!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

MXL mics are the best cheapo stuff I've seen, bar none. Particularly the 603s.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Or we could talk about Mikes, if you want.

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Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Do they make a good bass drum mic?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i heart my audio technica at4040

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

MXL doesn't really make a bass drum mic per se, main focus is on large and small diapraghm studio condensers. Then again, it all depends on what sort of kick sound you're looking for. If it's a tight Jazz kick, they'd work fine. Heavy Metal? Audix d6. The 603s works great (drum-wise) for overheads, hi-hat, and snare.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks guys. Any comments on the ol' Shure Beta 52?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had good luck with the MXL 990s. I think they work really well for the money.

I've got a MXL V63M and have not had near the luck, even though it costs a few more bucks. The V63M mic is really dark sounding and I haven't been able to find anywhere where it has worked well.

The 990 has done the job with a bit of everything and seems to be a pretty bright sounding microphone. I have had really good luck putting it on a kick drum, guitar cab, toms and acoustic guitar.

I'll look into that 603. It looks pretty cool, I need a smaller condenser to be able to get closer to a snare. The SM57 is very functional, but as much as people seem to love those that mic, they seem to me kind of dead sounding on amps and snares.

I don't have too many really good mics, just a pair of AKG C1000s which I use for about everything.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i always mix up MXL and CAD.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Anyone know where i can buy a decent microphone for recording? How do I test it? Can I go and ask to record myself singing and hear it back?

Is there a good shop on Denmark St or whatever in London for mics?

I've been using the one my mum used to use for karaoke but it got broken. the singstar ones can't really take too much input, it seems (which is strange considering how one usually plays singstar i.e. scream down the frigging thing).

ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 June 2006 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Get a Shure SM58 Ken. It's a good all-rounder and should be about £70 from a shop.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Friday, 30 June 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

wow i've been recommended the SM58 twice. i guess it must be £70 well spent. will update soon

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

seventy pounds for a 58 seems a bit pricey

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

if he said no 57's he also meant no 58's (whether he knew it or not...)

I agree BIG time about some of the MXLs, 603's in particular. not so much the 990.

an expanded closet is nice... but if you don't know where to point the mic, it's like wearing your $300 jeans inside out, or as a scarf. Unless you want to sound like a lot of good engineers look, I'd suggest forcing yourself to mike up a TON of shit with cheap (57 style) mics.

CAD does do some really cool stuff to, but they're kinda flavorfull for an entry mic.


another side point is that I believe there's a HUGE gain in moving into the $300 range of mics. Studio projects have a lot in this range that are fantastic, and I've never, NEVER had better service (from someone who wasn't actually servicing me.)

......I feel obliged to say you didn't say a THING about the rest of your chain or what you want to record. normally I would fly off the wall about this, because it's so rediculous to say ask that question. that's like walking into a music store and asking for something to make good music, and then saying you also don't want to pay much for it. have some sense dude. (trust me that's keeping it pretty calm)

this thread needs more 2k (aWESome), Saturday, 1 July 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i went to the shop and played around with a couple (including the Shure 58) and went for the Sennheiser e840 instead! I found that I got a much brighter clearer output. all that, and 5 pounds cheaper!

plus! it has some kind of insane 10 year warranty going on supposedly. can't wait to take it home :))))

(actually i took it home last night but i only had a cable that is dud, but i have one that works now :D)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty excited, I just bought an Audio-Technica AT-2020. No big deal I guess, but it's my first mic.

Is the best way to use a closet as a vocal booth just to stuff pillows and blankets in and on every potentially reflective surface and crevice?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

if you can't make it sound good, then yes, make it sound dead. don't assume a small space is going to be your best solution. in fact, it's usually the opposite in home recording rooms.

also: cheap bright will KILL you in the end.

wes fu (aWESome), Thursday, 6 July 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

not especially affordable, but i recently took delivery of a pair of Gefell M300s. i am in AWE

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 14 July 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

these things flatter my voice like an expensive tailor-made suit flatters one's body shape

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 14 July 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Ribbon mics.
Well, good ones.

Not great ones, because good ones sound so damned good no one would hear the money I spent.
Hell I could just like, hold the difference while I sang and the rustling would be picked up beautifully.
Greated the good ones are already pretty pricey.

The GZeus (The GZeus), Friday, 14 July 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i could get two M160s or one R-21

what to do, what to do

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 14 July 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

you've already got the gefells for your voice , go royer and you're into the serious gubbins for miking up guitars.

go gearslut!

*jealous*

beeble (beeble), Friday, 14 July 2006 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and grab an Audix D3 before they stop existing.
Best thing for electric guitar ever.
NO coloration and great off-axis rejection.

it just sounds great. because it sounds like my amp.

The GZeus (The GZeus), Friday, 14 July 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

hey guys, so i've been recording drums & percussion in my apartment all weekend w/just a 57 and getting pretty decent results (been doing just the hi-hat track, then just the snare, then bells & shakers & stuff, etc.).

however, i want to get a little more room sound too and be able to play snare + cymbals live, so i want to add some condenser mics. do i absolutely need a pair of stereo condensers (any recommendations for cheap + good?)? a friend has a good condenser mic (that he uses for guitar stuff) that i can borrow, can't remember what kind it is. maybe this will be fine for an overhead mic?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 15 December 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

what's his mic?

i like stereo condensers for overheads (the aforementioned m300s), but that's not to say you couldn't get a nice sound with a mono overhead.

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i will ask. yeah, maybe mono will be fine since it's not like i need to capture the spread of a full kit, it'll be mostly just hi-hat & snare.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 15 December 2008 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a rode n2, think it'll work?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry NT2

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't mind the NT2. i think it will be fine, as long as you're not bashing the hats too hard

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

nah, i keep a pretty light touch and sloshy open hi-hats are my least favorite drum sound. thx.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

the NT2 has been working out okay but i think i'm just going to buy my own condensor that's more suited for drums. any recommendations for the ~$200 range?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

at that price point, the only brands i'd recommend are audio technica and kel

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe check out the samson C02 stereo pair, which is stupid cheap (like $120 street? i think?)

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

it's funny but i kinda like the sound of a hi-hat mic'ed with just a 57, it's dark and a little electronic sounding. you don't have to worry about it being too trebly and tinny, that's for sure.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

kel hm-1 looks pretty intriguing

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

57's are great for hi-hat as long as you are not WILDMANG DRUMMER and thus don't destroy them by knocking off the headcap.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

altho some time try the audix i5 if you get a chance.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

always wanted to try an audix. not like they're expensive so maybe time to 'stimulate the economy'

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

we were the first national tour company to use audix, and i will always have a special place for them in my heart (lol old). the i5 is basically a clean flatter version of the 57, but nearly indestructible.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

what you want is an audio technica 5100, it's a cardoid instrument mic that's extremely versatile. it's about 50 bucks above your price point.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

fifteen years pass...

Anyone familiar with Warm Audio’s 87 condenser mic? Had my eye on it for awhile and now it’s $150 off

Heez, Monday, 13 May 2024 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

Need a little help here. I was just sent a list of used mics for sale locally and could use some advice. Looking for a good vocal mic, one that hopefully adds something to my otherwise dull voice. Here's what they have:

AT 4050/CM5
Neumann km 84
Sterling ST170
Shure SM-7B
Beyer MC 834
Rode NT4
AEA R-84

Heez, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 20:57 (two weeks ago) link

leaning km84

Heez, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

the Rode NT4, at least used to be when I had it, is a x/y stereo mic, has it's uses but I don't think you'd want it as a consult vocal mic. I used it to record a small bluegrass band in their living room, I think it's intended for that kind of stuff.

my main vocals, really do it all mic, is the Shure KSM32, retails for 600 but easy to find used for half that. friend of mine who is a producer recommended it.

he also said it's worth trying the ol Shure 57 or 58, it suits some perks
people's voices

i think i'm committed to the KM84. i currently have a Shure SM27, 57 and 58. i don't really know what i'm doing but i'm pretty sure i'm getting a really good deal.

A neighbor (4 time Grammy winner!) who passed away two years ago worked as an engineer at Smithsonian's folkways label and had his own home studio. I ran into his wife last weekend and she mentioned that she was offloading his gear. she's super sweet and, though i told her 700 was my max, she sent me that list of mics. so i hope, despite that it may not best suited for vocals, i'm getting the best mic from the lot. kind of building a little home studio and this would be a huge upgrade.

Heez, Thursday, 16 May 2024 12:36 (one week ago) link

if you can get a deal on the km84 yeah, probably that. wouldn't mind having that AEA though, for vocal color if you like a vintage sound.

encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 25 May 2024 08:46 (four days ago) link


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