following the immense popularity of my first thread on classic political cartoons from the heyday of Punch and it's copyists, i decided to follow up with a themed special, and where better to start than with the rivalry between two of the greatest minds of 19th century British politics. and having established that as our theme, where better to start within it than with perhaps the definitive example of the Disraeli Gladstone political cartoon:http://i40.tinypic.com/flhx5z.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
this one is a cherished personal favourite. wonderful creativity by the penman here:
http://i41.tinypic.com/5f57oi.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
this one speaks for itself. LOL
http://i43.tinypic.com/29crm8i.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
this is a modern take, based on a classic quote from Disraeli that gives one a real insight into the incredible, powerful mind he had, and the intensity of his personal rivalry with Gladstone. it is really sad to me that there hae been so few Disraeli Gladstone cartoons in recent times.
http://i40.tinypic.com/35cn19h.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
this is just Disraeli obviously, but i wanted to throw it in here because it's a superb example of the craft, and because of the sweet zing on Bill Ewart. what a complete tool that guy was.
http://i41.tinypic.com/10zolfc.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i like this one because, if i were in Africa talking to a backwards tribe who were only vaguely aware of the Disraeli Gladstone rivalry, this would be the cartoon i used as an introduction and illustration of this historic chess match of political wits.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ez351u.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
this is a bit crass for my tastes but i know a lot of people like it so i felt obliged to include ithttp://i41.tinypic.com/21437g8.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
okay, i'm going to stray a little from the original conceit of the thread now and i'm going to take a closer look at Gladstone, and in particular at the Irish Question, which came to dominate his premiership
this is a really very moving cartoon about the defeat of the Home Rule Bill in 1893http://i44.tinypic.com/1zp4ho5.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
i sincerely believe that this one cartoon is more valuable in terms on insight than a whole library of books on the subject. certainly this striking image still very much informs my own personal view of the Irish.
http://i39.tinypic.com/sfx88w.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
before i receive any complaints i want to make it clear that i am aware that this is somewhat misrepresentative, but i was compelled to include it because of the excellent word play.
http://i39.tinypic.com/j6jsjn.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Which one of these was the one that bought paper off Hitler?
― When I argue I wear Bapes (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
they were both dead by the start of the 20th century, so you may be thinking of someone else.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
of course, we all know how this ended, with Gladstone getting "booted" from office:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2e5uvm0.jpg
and what's that he was carrying? that's right, the Home Rule Bill. it was the Irish Question that did for him in the end. what a detestrable bunch of ingrates the Irish are. if i had had my way i'd have built a high wall around the island and poured hot oil in till it flowed over.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i think dom means figuratively.
― get that pion down you son (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
if you had done your homework before barging onto this thread with uncouth banalities you would know that Hitler was a well-regarded exporter of foolscap folio prior to the bathroom injury that gave him the inspiration for the notorious flux capacitor that completely changed the 20th century world, so it is very likely indeed that Dom was speaking literally.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
you know what? screw this. this is a subject i am sincerely passionate about and i put a lot of effort into this thread. if snide criticism is the only thanks i'll get then i know not to bother in the future. it has become increasingly apparent that my interests and those of the ilx community in general have been diverging dramatically for some time and i am at a genuine and profound loss as to why i bother.
fuck all y'all, i'm done here.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
wait!it's a great thread robert! gladstone - LOLplease carry on
― get that pion down you son (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/feb2008/2/1/1DA5382A-E972-02E6-70A60E5585D6D744.jpg
― bye bye roberto, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_04/oldDM2402_468x309.jpg
― RIP big man, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link
an instant classic!!
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link