Mike Trout needs his own thread

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In case you missed it from last night:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/27/video-mike-trout-makes-insane-no-look-leaping-catch/

clemenza, Saturday, 27 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

@keithlaw
Let's get him fewer at bats! #smrtbaseball “@Alden_Gonzalez: Mike Scioscia looking at the possibility of Trout batting third next year..."

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

kinda interesting article here: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/balls-in-play-expected-homers-leaderboard/

it calculates expected home runs in 2014, based on batted ball distance/angles, and then compares them to actual home runs.

it finds that mike trout was the unluckiest in baseball, with only 36 HRs in 2014 as compared to the 43 that would be expected based on his contact %, outfield flyball %, etc.

Mike Trout. he's just so unlucky

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 January 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

more of the same to start the new season: a dinger and a golden sombrero in his first game

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2015_04_06_anamlb_seamlb_1&mode=video

semi-robbed one, too

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link

I thought the golden sombrero was 0-4 4K?

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link

whoops i thought it was 3Ks, it's 4

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 11:48 (nine years ago) link

HOUSTON -- Mike Trout hit the 100th homer of his career on Friday, lofting a fly ball over the left-field fence at Minute Maid Park to become the youngest player with 100 home runs and 100 stolen bases.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 18 April 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link

he's having a really great start

k3vin k., Saturday, 18 April 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

to his career

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 April 2015 03:56 (nine years ago) link

arguably

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 April 2015 03:56 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Ben Lindbergh on the career of Jeff "Dad" Trout

http://grantland.com/features/2015-mlb-jeff-trout-mike-trout-father/

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 May 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link

Sure to be a contentious issue in 2016:

http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2015/05/president_barack_obama_petitioned_to_create_mike_t.html

clemenza, Saturday, 16 May 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

that headline really makes it sound like obama created the petition!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 May 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

I read it exactly the same as you did ("Wow, is he ever going to catch flak here for being a little distracted...").

clemenza, Saturday, 16 May 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

He's brought down his strikeouts close to where they were his first couple of years, so maybe last year was a blip.

2012 - 21.8%
2013 - 19.0%
2014 - 26.1%
2015 - 22.8%

Passed .300/.400/.600 last night.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Two more HR tonight.

clemenza, Saturday, 11 July 2015 04:46 (eight years ago) link

I suspect Biggio may find his name on the internet a lot for the next 24 hours.

He was asked some questions on Twitter Friday as part of MLB's 'HOF Lounge,' including one from a person who asked which current player reminds him the most of himself. "Mike Trout. He's got a little more power, but the styles are similar as far as speed, power."

He really was a great player for four or five years...

clemenza, Saturday, 25 July 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link

damn

nomar, Sunday, 26 July 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

Just a slightly thicker neck, too!

Andy K, Sunday, 26 July 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

Biggio's career-high SLG was less than .050 Trout's current career SLG.

Andy K, Sunday, 26 July 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link

Biggio's Similarity Score list:

Robin Yount (836) *
Derek Jeter (825)
Joe Morgan (779) *
Paul Molitor (778) *
Roberto Alomar (773) *
Cal Ripken (761) *
Johnny Damon (760)
Brooks Robinson (739) *
Lou Whitaker (739)
George Brett (735) *

Pretty fantastic list--eight inarguable HOF'ers, one guy (Whittaker) who most people feel should be in, and Damon, who was a fine player. Trout's way off--maybe sort of, if you ignore power, which would be ignoring a lot.

Actually, with 836 being the highest score, Biggio was relatively unique.

clemenza, Monday, 27 July 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

trout is on pace to surpass biggio's WAR before turning 28

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link

another monster game tonight. 4-4 with 2 HR and a walk

usic ally (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 July 2015 05:31 (eight years ago) link

Obviously, looked at overall, it's an absurd comparison. But in trying to figure out what Biggio might have been thinking, here's what I come up with. You've got to jump through a few hoops.

I assume he's thinking of himself during his prime--not his first few years as a catcher, and definitely not his last few barely hanging on. If you limit the comparison to Biggio's '94-98 prime, and compare his pro-rated numbers (per/162 games) to Trout's pro-rated over his career, there are a few similarities.

BA: .308 (B)/.306 (T)
OBP: .404 (B)/.396 (T)
Runs: 130 (B)/122 (T)
2B/3B: 41/5 (B)/36/7 (T)
BB: 80 (B)/87 (T)
SB/CS: 43/9 (B)/31/5 (T)

I'm sure he's thinking good contact, takes walks, extra-base power, steals bases, scores runs. You just have to conveniently ignore the huge HR difference (35-19), the era that Biggio played in, and all those other years when Biggio wasn't nearly as good. If he cherry-picked a different set of numbers, he could probably make a case that he was a lot like Harmon Killebrew.

clemenza, Monday, 27 July 2015 05:34 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure he's just thinking 'good hustle'.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 27 July 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

6.8 WAR already, according to BBR

nomar, Monday, 27 July 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

a sabr-inclined yankee fan just asked me 'is mike trout's career floor now mickey mantle?'

i said 'could be, but what if harper's better?'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link

they're both so young that picking one or the other seems foolish, but i'd lean trout

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Mike Trout is younger than 23 of the 25 players on the Angels' Triple-A roster.

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

Looks like one Syracuse Chief is younger than Bryce Harper.

Andy K, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

all AAA teams are full of olds though

qualx, Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link

that is true. tbh it points to the angels system totally sucking almost as much as trout being young and insane

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

no one has led the league in runs scores 4 straight years; he might. #CountingStats

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/so-you-want-an-edge-against-mike-trout/

this is pretty amazing. trout has seen about 270 first-pitch curves in his career, depending on whose count you go by. he's swung at one of them

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 August 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

^^^ especially lol because ok, you're ahead 0-1 after a taken first-pitch curve; for some reason he's now even better

mookieproof, Friday, 28 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah that makes NO sense lol

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 August 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

i still love this guy btw but it's kind of lame how he's turned into more or less a slugger who's average-to-slghtly-above-average at everything else

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 August 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

he's still #4 in WAR (#3 if you dont count greinke) behind goldschmidt and harper, but i m/l agree

wouldnt be surprised if donaldson passes him by that metric before season's end and def think donaldson is the AL MVP favorite

slothroprhymes, Friday, 28 August 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

oh i mean he's more or less the best hitter in the league, so he makes up for it, but the baserunning and defense highlights are a lot rarer these days so he's just a little less fun to watch

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah i havent gone out of my way to watch an angels game in a while, which i used to do for his sake the last 2 years all the time - last one i saw was the recent 15-3 thrashing by the blue jays in which he went 0 for 3 and made exactly one catch, not an especially great one

slothroprhymes, Friday, 28 August 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

It's definitely making the Harper and Trout comparisons a lot less one-sided since they're basically the same-ish player these days.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Two HR in Aug/Sept! Also:

Aug: .218/.352/.337
Sept: .242/.395/.455

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 September 2015 10:19 (eight years ago) link

two bombs tonight, Angels about to move 2.5 games out from a WC berth. "Recency bias" might get him that MVP after all.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 September 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

also "being really good"

qualx, Friday, 18 September 2015 03:51 (eight years ago) link

very troutian TTO game tonight -- 1 K, 2 HR, 3 BB

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link


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