Hot Stove League 2014-15

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Let's not waste any time:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/11786485/joe-maddon-expected-become-chicago-cubs-manager

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link

red sox supposedly hot for recent world series winner 'the panda'

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link

Sandoval is gonna get paid a shitload - either by the Giants or someone else.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:58 (nine years ago) link

yankees.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

Toronto claimed Justin Smoak

a spurious claim

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link

Dan Johnson left a pretty big hole when he left.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link

I'm not really sure why the sox want panda tbqh

...maybe acquire him with free cap space, then trade him and some prospects for LE STANTON??!!

(obligatory Red Sox foolish hope for a Stanton trade)

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:22 (nine years ago) link

aussie legend liam hendriks sent back to toronto by the royals -- kinda wonder if that was agreed upon back in july

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

nats pick up $9m option on spenard dan, decline options on adam laroche and rafael soriano

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

As free agency nears, Amaro unveils rebuilding plan done 'The Phillies Way'

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20141031_GM_Amaro_unveils__quot_Phillies_Way_quot__handbook.html

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

at least he's not talking about 'phillies nation'

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

"way" is 1,000x worse than "nation" imo

amaro and hinkie are clearly in the same room, using the same cocaine

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

I'm not really sure why the sox want panda tbqh

...maybe acquire him with free cap space, then trade him and some prospects for LE STANTON??!!

(obligatory Red Sox foolish hope for a Stanton trade)

― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:22 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because they don't have a viable third baseman

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

i mean it certainly isnt will middLOLbrooks. cecchini looked pretty good during september tho, on both ends

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

^^^thought that was gonna be a morbs line

sox re-signed uehara for two years

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

I was thinking about making an A2A joke, not going to lie.

Big Orange Machine (Leee), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

damnit me, classic PHRASING fuckup

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

So no chance of Panda staying? The Giants have pretty deep pockets.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 31 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

From the philly.com article about the Amaro way:

Amaro identified Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Darin Ruf, Ben Revere, and Domonic Brown as players to build around.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 31 October 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

2014 domonic brown had negative the WAR 2013 domonic brown accrued

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link

one good month is all you need apparently

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link

defensive awards flyin' already, i can't believe Mr Awards thread hasn't leapt on em

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

i thought the phillies were already trying to get rid of domonic

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link

hey morbs can you please leave the awards talk out of the hot stove thread thanks

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

i love darin ruf but lol he accrued 0.3 war in his 12-game debut in 2012, is dead even in 125 games since, and will be 29 next july

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

hey Revere got a 3.0 WAR season!

2 seasons ago.

with the Twins.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 31 October 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link

So no chance of Panda staying? The Giants have pretty deep pockets.

They're already on the hook for $127 million next year with 5 FAs and unlikely to go into luxury tax territory.

Big Orange Machine (Leee), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

gabe kapler just publicly tweeted something meant to be a direct message (and instantly deleted, but not fast enough) -- apparently he's joining the dodgers front office

also the yankees hired eric chavez as a scout

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

DON KELLY OUTRIGHTED

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

was hoping kapler would catch on as an analyst somewhere but i guess FO jobs are more coveted

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

renteria officially canned

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

yankees will reportedly extend a qualifying offer to david robertson on monday

thus a (quite good!) reliever who posted 1.2 war in 2014 will make at least $15.3m next year

following that logic, russell martin should get $50m

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

I got a question about WAR towards team win performance. Looking at Pirates according to Baseball Reference they have a total of 30.1 WAR, should this number be considered that the club would end up 30 over .500 (or about 96 wins)?

earlnash, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

no, because a team full of pure replacement level players would not be a .500 level team. i forget what the baseline figure is.

Karl Malone, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

no, the basis for replacement level is somewhere around 42-47 wins for fWAR at least, not sure where it is for rWAR but their replacement level is different i think

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

according to wikipedia:

a team of replacement-level players is expected to have a .320 winning percentage, or 52 wins in a 162 game season.

Karl Malone, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

i know every year FG does their WAR predictions everyone always tries to add up the totals and add it onto a set figure and every year podhorzer or whoever does it yells at them cause that's not how it works

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 31 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

rockies pick up option for latroy hawkins' age-42 season

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

The Rockies Way

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 31 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

nick markakis and billy butler both got club options declined, FAs

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 1 November 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Adam Lind (Jays) for Estrada (Brewers).

http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jays-trade-1b-dh-lind-to-brewers-for-rhp-estrada-1.122276

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link

always disappointed that adam lind isn't jose's son

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

not sure what to think of the deal.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

lind is a good addition for any team that can properly use him in a platoon (164 wRC+ vs righties in 2014, -36 vs lefties, and a 150 wRC+ against righties in 2013). he probably sucks as a fielder though.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Estrada was almost useless tho.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

always disappointed that marco estrada isn't erik's son

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

Paul Molitor, new Twins manager

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 November 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 2 November 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

lind gets hurt all the time also

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 November 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link

#TruckDay, guys.

Andy K, Thursday, 12 February 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

nationals sign dan uggla, heath bell to minor league deals

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

fauxto carmona goin to houston on a ml deal too

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 12 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

zito to a's! (milb deal)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

I believe all non-vague media apologies still need to be made directly to Oprah

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

AL seems like it is wide open heading into spring training. With the rampant turnover or lack of changes on some winning clubs from 2014, I don't see any real lock favorites. Angels and Detroit should hit, but they both got some serious questions with their pitching. KC might be decent, but they were kinda fluky last year. Baltimore pretty much didn't change much and it seemed they played over their heads last year too. Seattle and Cleveland seem to be more on the upswing than downswing.

With the NL, the Cards, Nationals, Dodgers (on paper) and Giants (by previous results) seem to be favorites to me. Pittsburgh could be good, I think anything else would be at least a mild surprise.

earlnash, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

if the dodgers or nats don't win the NL they have to be pretty disappointed this year. cards will be good but their depth is lacking this year - a single bad injury could spell doom. giants, nah. pittsburgh will be good i think. i have nothing to back this up, but i think that if the cubs get off to a good start they'll keep rolling. if they don't, they won't. that's my unsubstantiated opinion and i'm sticking to it.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

interesting that pecota has the royals fourth-worst in the majors

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

they lost Sheilds and Butler, and gained... Volquez, Morales and Rios. makes sense.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link

i like everything the White Sox did this offseason. no idea why everyone feels they're still a sub-500 team.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

projection systems didn't like KC last year either

qualx, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

did have a predictatron thread this year?

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

How accurate are those season win projections that we read every year? Is there a lot of science and data behind them or are they mostly just writers guessing?

Evan R, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

I don't quite see Boston at 87 wins at least as setup now, they seem to be pretty shy on the starting pitching.

earlnash, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

giants, nah.

>=( |=\ =|

Hollinger Escape Plan (Leee), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link

oh shush leee, warriors bout to give the Bay Area another title, don't be greedy

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 01:28 (nine years ago) link

Boston has so much talent in their lineup and such a crazy deep bench - I think they can get by with 5 #3 starters!
They could pretty much get a Hamels or Zimmerman whenever they want without taking away much from the field.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link

Warriors won't win; NBA is fixed

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Most improved positions of the year: Cards RF, return of Prince, no Jeter

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/most-improved-positions-dodgers-cardinals-yankees-mariners-padres-reds-rangers-021715

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

giants are gonna start lincecum again...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 February 2015 05:20 (nine years ago) link

He worked with his father again, apparently he is quite confident.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 19 February 2015 06:27 (nine years ago) link

sounds like a plan until it's not

if they're stubborn about it, a step close to wild-card Mets

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

Barves apparently have 'strong interest' in Jackie Bradley Jr.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

shoulder surgery for jurickson profar, might miss his second straight season

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

from BP chat:

AC (TX): Is there a deal that is going very under-discussed, that you feel deserves more attention? Maybe a change of scenery that you feel will do wonders?

R.J. Anderson: Someone whose opinion I trust and who works in a well-regarded FO is convinced Brett Lawrie could outplay Josh Donaldson this season. I'm not there yet (and I probably won't get there until after it happens), but that's the deal that popped to mind reading the second part of this question.

As for the first part, I'd say the Yankees' acquisition of Justin Wilson. He's a very talented pitcher who could be a monster near the back of their bullpen. Add him to Betances, Miller, Carpenter, etc. and you have the makings of a nasty group.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

bochy's in the hospital getting stents put in his ticker. hope it goes well

polyphonic, Friday, 20 February 2015 05:14 (nine years ago) link

not surprising, but ugh anyway

meanwhile, RIP B.J. Upton

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- B.J. Upton has opted to appease those Braves fans who have said they "don't want to see B.J." in the lineup again this year. Now, the veteran outfielder can only hope that he is capable of altering his production as easily as he has the name he will use this season.

Upton's representatives confirmed that he will go by his birth name, Melvin Upton Jr., this upcoming season. The 30-year-old outfielder has long gone by the name B.J., which is short for Bossman (his father Manny's nickname) Jr.

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Monday, 23 February 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link

You figure Billy was down for whatever whenever -- even now, probably -- but Cal?

Andy K, Monday, 23 February 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link

i've never been a stannish defender of cal but i'm p sure every team was doing the violent hazing thing back then

cal probably got the same treatment from zaun's uncle back in the day

qualx, Monday, 23 February 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link

also lol cal put out an anti-bullying book jfc

qualx, Monday, 23 February 2015 00:40 (nine years ago) link

guys this is not hot stove unless there was fire in the hazing

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 February 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

plz keep off-topic complaints in the detrius thread

qualx, Monday, 23 February 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link

@JesseSanchezMLB
BREAKING - Source: Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada agrees with Red Sox on a deal in $30 million range. Check http://MLB.com

Andy K, Monday, 23 February 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link

Jesse Spector @jessespector
I get the Red Sox signing Yoan Moncada. Always want talent. I don’t quite get Yoan Moncada signing with the Red Sox. His path isn’t clear.

mookieproof, Monday, 23 February 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

whoa, ok

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/04/padres-have-completed-trade.html

Craig Kimbrel and Melvin (AKA BJ) Upton to Padres for Cameron Maybin, Carlos Quentin, Matt Wisler, and Jordan Paroubeck

Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 April 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

the barves will also get the 41st pick in the draft, apparently

Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 April 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

zowie

WilliamC, Sunday, 5 April 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link

seems like a decent deal for both sides, maybe? padres get a dominant closer and a BJ, barves get to dump upton's salary, get a few guys who can be traded later, and a couple prospects?

Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 April 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link

pads felt guilty tearing a family apart

qualx, Sunday, 5 April 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

xp - Yeah, beyond the initial emotional "Kimbrel noooooooooo, come back" shock, this seems win-win. I don't know the Padres' depth chart -- will Melvin start or be an expensive bench piece?

WilliamC, Sunday, 5 April 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

iirc the padres still have a few dozen OFs, even after quentin and maybin

Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link

Not worth starting the in-season thread for but goddamn, everything John Kruk says during the broadcast is nails on a chalkboard.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:34 (nine years ago) link

someone should start it!

Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

I mean Kemp might break off at both knees like the t-1000 so who the fuck knows. kimbrel seems like the "luxury" move that people were talking about re the astros not needing a closer, but not in such dire terms -- I do feel like we are past peak closer Maybe some recency bias in favor of SF but you still have to make it past them and LAD afaict

"This latest move has improved the odds of the Padres winning the World Series, going from 25/1 to 20/1, according to the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook."

idk man...

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 6 April 2015 06:45 (nine years ago) link

Law says Barves win

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 April 2015 07:35 (nine years ago) link

trade makes sense for both teams (especially barves), but if i were one of the players i'd be annoyed -- they had six months to make this trade and now i've gotta move across the country on opening day?

mookieproof, Monday, 6 April 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah the timing seems awful for the players

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link


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